Bonne chance mon ami !
Bonne chance mon ami !
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
I quite agree Dave.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
I'm mulling over options for the continuation of the campaign. While there's no need to make a decision now it does make a difference for airplanes. There aren't any official plane types I don't have (although my single DH2 is Reviresco) but my choice might mean ordering some Shapeways airplanes. So the choices I'm considering:
1) Continue on with my campaign a few months down the road. There are some benefits such as character continuity. I get to use some of the late war planes in my collection I've not used yet. My designated pilot is an ace and one kill shy of double ace, which is nice to have. I get to do my own thing with the scenarios as well as flying some 'experimental' planes in advance of their operational introduction. (Note that 'flying' experimental UFAG was driven by my trying to 'fly' as much of my collection as possible. I've 'flown' all the UFAG now so that's not a problem.) However, I still won't be part of the official campaign.
2) Join the official 1916 campaign but with the 'experienced' Flik members (the Hauptmann and the Fw 'Sandy') at the earlier time in their flying careers, which could be on the Italian or Russian fronts or even with a German unit on the Western Front as some AH pilots were attached to German units to learn German air tactics.
3) Join the official 1916 campaign with a new unit - French, British, German or even Italian. AH would be covered by option 2 above.
I would suggest 3A3) Join the official 1916 campaign with a new unit - French, British, German or even Italian.
Join the campaign with a new unit, and keep your 'unofficial' going as a separate campaign.
If you try the Marty McFly route there could be problems if the Hauptmann and Sandy were to meet their demise in 19162) Join the official 1916 campaign but with the 'experienced' Flik members (the Hauptmann and the Fw 'Sandy') at the earlier time in their flying careers, which could be on the Italian or Russian fronts or even with a German unit on the Western Front as some AH pilots were attached to German units to learn German air tactics.
I would like to see you join the Official Daring Young Men.
Thanks, Pete, for the idea of doing two at once. So I will do RFC Western Front and keep the, now 1918, AH Italian one going. Good idea....I think.
I will have to augment, especially RFC 2-seaters. For 1916 Q2 I have:
Central Powers = 5 Fokker E.III, 1 Halberstadt D.III, captured Nieuport 11, captured Nieuport 17, 3 Albatros C.III and 5 Roland C.II. I wouldn't mind getting some Hansa-Brandenburg C.I but would probably do those as AH. Maybe I should get an Fokker E.IV,
Entente = 1 DH2, 3 Morane Saulnier N, 6 Nieuport 11, 2 Nieuport 16, 6 Nieuport 17 and 1 Voisin Type 3. So 2-seaters needed for the RFC.
Good luck doing two squadrons at the same time. That will take up a lot of your spare time if you have any.
Could I have confirmation on these two aircraft for use in OTT DYM, please.
Roland C.II
Halberstadt D.III
If the D.III is good to use from April onward, I've definitely got four German scout models. Likewise for the C.II.
Next question would be about the Fokker E.II and the XD deck - can an E.II Immelmann? Probably a question better asked in another section of the forum.
Hi Roy.
From the info we have the Roland C.II was operational from Mar 1916 in the recon and fighter escort role. When introduced it was the fastest machine in the sky.
The Halberstadt D.III arrived in Aug 1916, though you could use the models as the Halb D.II and use them before that, it seems they arrived in numbers in Jul 1916 but the odd few appeared well before that - probably for combat assessment or some such.
See post #6 in this thread for our early lists: https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...Campaign-Rules
As the the Fokker D.II, as it has been assigned the XD deck by the Un-Off-Stats Committee then it won't have an Immel or be able to. Either under powered or too frail to achieve the move. The Fokker E.II was out of frontline service sometime in the first quarter of 1916 so wouldn't be suitable for the next OTT continuation.
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Thank you.
I've only the one correct scout model, then, for this next period... Halb D.III would have to masquerade as a D.II, and two E.II models would end up being called E.IIIs
The Fokker E.II stats are incorrect anyway - they should be the same as the E.III, not the same as the E.I., so the E.II CAN "Immel".
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Are you sure it's not your failing eyesight that led you to think thet were RE8's? They looked like BE2c's to me! Unless of course it's my failing eyesight
Having said that there was a loud roaring of aero engines as 2 BE2c's landed in the field behind our house about a week ago. Scared the life out of the cows at the time, they've only just started giving milk after the fright.
Just need 3 or 4 months to prep and paint them.
No worries, John.
I did the same thing in the previous campaign for a mission where one pilot went mad for a day and had to take on a random series of aircraft.
Would it be a problem if I joined the official campaign with a RNAS, deployed to Northern France, unit? An RNAS unit fits my current collection better than an RFC one but that will depend on the dates selected.
Bulldog's Special ops unit. I can't see a problem with that.
We often draft in two seater units for special tasks.
It may just take a bit of out of the box explanation in your preamble to some of the missions Paul.
We all fudge the edges of games sometimes. Just keep out of Uncles way in the Mess for a few days and it usually blows over. I will take up any flack from his direction. I now have even broader shoulders.
Kyte. ( Air Vice Marshall Bulldogs' Special Ops Unit)
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
No worries, Paul. It's really in how you spin the story.
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
Thanks Uncle.
First round's on me in the Mess tonight.
Kyte.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Yes, we must, Dave. As I've just spent a fair bit on RNAS reading material and miniature flying craft. I'm past the point of no return but not yet as irredeemable as some.
Will promise that it will be 'salty' but still suitable for all ages. If my quick scanning of the material is correct, some RNAS units were indeed 'punished' by being sent to operate with RFC. Fortunately the ultimate punishment of being merged with the RFC is so far beyond the scope of the extended campaign.
Thanks, Rob. The second round is on me but I may need a second mortgage as I've just ordered another squadron plus of aircraft. Not all are for the OTT but some are and I've finally broken down and ordered Ares planes to repaint. Total requisition:
Ares Repaints
2 X Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter Type 9400 (2-seater) to be repainted in RNAS livery for the campaign
2 X Albatros D.III to be repainted for Jasta 30
2 X Pfalz D.IIIa to be repainted for Jasta 30
Valom Kit
4 X Nieuport 11 to be painted for the RNAS (and because the RFC nicked our Nieuport 16 requisition)
4 X Fokker E.IIi - because it's nearly just as cheap to order the kit with 2 N11 and 2 Fokker E.III as a kit with just 2 N11.
(Note: 2 other valom N11 I have were intended for the Italians and for a captured German aircraft but will be requisitioned and re-captured for the RNAS to give me a full flight of RNAS N11)
Shapeways (RAF)
2 X Hansa-Brandenburg C.I - to provide the AH with their own 2-seaters
2 X Airco DH.2 - because it could be awhile before Ares releases more
2 X Halberstadt D.III - to provide some opposition in the OTT and I only have one and no idea when Ares will release more
2 X Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutters Type 9700 (one-seater) - for the extended OTT campaign as sometimes you need a long range fighter to escort the 2-seaters
2 X Roland VIa - for Jasta 23
The next campaign (as yet un-named) will cover the period of July/August/September 1916.
I selected this as a slew of new aircraft became available in this period and it'll give us the chance to enjoy them as well as those few that arrived in the interim. (see below)
We will use the same rosters (reversed for those that change sides)
Wounded crew will have fully recovered & rejoined the squadron which has been on a quieter front for a little R&R.
Action will be concentrated on the scouts as the squadrons are divided about this time - though for our convenience they will be co-located & work in co-operation at times.
All being well I will get this set up to start March 1st & we will run the same format as this one & 12 months of games.
If there are any new pilots who'd like to try their hand please PM me - and you might want to take the opportunity to play one of the missions and post it in the AAR sub-forum to see how long it actually takes and if it suits you - also thoroughly read the current campaign rules and requirements.
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...Campaign-Rules
Aircraft becoming available (this is not an exhaustive list):
April: Sopwith 1˝ Strutter: 2 seat bomber/escort, also 1 seater bomber - RNAS Apr16, RFC Jul16
May: *Nieuport 16: RFC: May16 - Nov16?.
June: Fokker E.IV: Jun16 - Jan17
July: RAF FE.2d: - two-seater - Fighter, subsequent day and night bomber. A 3rd gun fitted sometime (Sept?) after arrival
*Nieuport 17: RFC Jul16 - Jul17?.
Fokker D.I: Jul16 - Nov16.
Halberstadt D.II: Jul16
August: Fokker D.II: Aug16-Oct16.
*Spad VII: French: Aug16 - (RFC:Oct16 - Jan18)
RAF FE.8: Aug16 until Jul17
*Halberstadt D.III: Aug16
September: Albatros D.I: Sep16 (Those of us without alt market models can use the D.II)
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
Match 1st should see Monsieur Bedard well recovered and fit to fight the Hun.
Got a list for scenario scripters yet?
I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
Coming down is the hardest thing
Hold your horse chaps, lets get this one finished first !
I will let you know when I'm setting up rosters & rotas, haven't even draughted the rules sticky yet !
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
Gentlemen, some of you will be receiving some campaign medals soon, I have also taken the liberty of recommending other medals where I thought they were lacking
Some of you have the max to be given - well done all at that level BUT...
Please check whether you are due anything for posting AAR - I can easily see what you have done here but I don't know where else you may have posted eg WGS; TnT; AAR sub-forums, campaigns etc.
You want to be properly dressed in the Mess !
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
The scores for my 1917 Italian Front campaign, following Dave's format:
Paul (ShadowDragon): Eagle - Played 12
Eagles: 5 KIA, 0 POW, 1 Ace, 23 Victories
Bulldogs*: 4 KIA, 3 POW, 0 Ace, 12 Victories
* Multi-national unit with Italian, French, British, American, Belgian and Russian aircrew
Hi Dave. Pretty sure I have passed the 100 AAR's figure if you include my Pacific War Campaign & all the Sapphire Coast Club ones going waaay back which featured Capt Triggers & "Dusty" Rhodes in his early days plus Midway & Bismark Sea scenarios with Dal Gaven, Glen Ferrier, Halvo & Col Jones before his untimely death.
You'll have done sixty with OTT at the end of this campaign Baz, if you search you should be able to get a count of those done elsewhere & can indent for the gong. I think Matt's dishing them out these days ?
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
I have PMed Baz, Dave.
Just so that no one gets the wrong end of the stick from his post, AARs for the Campaign must be sanctioned by yourself, before I can grant them. As for the ordinary AARs they must be posted in the appropriate section to qualify as per Keith's instructions to we Admin bods. Spurious AARs in Show reports and general comment threads do not qualify because with ten years of posts to trawl through it is just impossible for us to verify every one.
At your behest I will send his AAR for Campaign medal ASAP.
Thanks.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Thanks Rob - I have recommended for OTT campaign medals for those that are at or about to end the campaign. I have recommended for other medals for REP where they've been missed and for the standard AAR medal where I know they have exceeded the requirement by what they've posted here.
Some though, like Baz, may be eligible for higher medals for AAR and my intent was for them to check & self request if appropriate.
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
No problem with you recommending pilots for any medals you like Dave.
For general information to all you chaps out there:-
The only ones I am not allowed to deal with are Donations, Gold membership etc, or the ones I can't ratify such as Yearly top whatever or Monthly top whatever, for which only Keith has the data to process them.
Members may request their own medals unless there is a specific person ascribed to the job.
Ie. Only Games organizers at shows can put up participants for medals for their show.
Only Dave has control over the Campaign medal distribution requests.
Only the Librarian can ratify book review medals.
This is simply to avoid multiple requests for the same medal from different people.
It helps to keep the books straight and saves me a lot of extra work removing duplicated medals and so forth.
Thank you all for your patience and understanding on this matter.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Good to see we are back in action.
Held off flying Mission 12 as the site was still down.
Hope to get it done next weekend.
The Daring Young men Campaign is officially at an end.
So get in your final AAR as the start date for the next one is 1st March !
Thanks to all who took part and for your creativity.
I'm working on the next title/rules etc and will post them later this month, along with a new Mess thread where you can sign up for a billet with whatever side you've chosen to be.
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
Mission 12 in, WHEW! Would have had it in a couple of days ago but the site was down. Not the best outcome but the title said it all.
The February break will be appreciated as this last month was crazy even without getting 3 AARs done. Look forward to the next edition.
Thanks Dave, another top notch job on another wonderful campaign.
Agreed, thanks Dave for running another great campaign. Looking forward to the next one - don't know which side I shall be on, but shall wait and see who signs up for what and fill any gap.
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