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    this is a second hand account of taking down a Gotha from the same site with the pilots journals just another amazing read



    The Gotha Bomber

    TAKING DOWN A GOTHA
    FLIGHT November 7, 1918

    THE big twin-engined Gotha bomber droned steadily
    across the skies eastward. Her work of destruction had
    been done, practically unmolested, as it happened. The
    pilot, after the tension of the past few hours, relaxed his
    tired muscles, and looked back at the tawny haze above
    Paris, spattered with the gold of the setting sun. He fell
    into a mood of drowsy content, lulled by the sense of dangers
    past, and present security. Such moods are dangerous, for
    no German may ever feel completely immune from our compact
    little scouts, which may be racing up behind their " blind
    spot," or hiding coyly in a cloud, to pounce at the psychological
    moment.
    Suddenly from underneath, a little de Haviland chaser
    surged up, with the speed of a bullet. As she passed the
    observer sprayed a fan of lead from his machine-gun at the
    now thoroughly awakened Hun. The startled German
    made a mental note not to be caught that way again. The
    Spandau gun behind him broke out re-assuringly. The
    little de Hav. eddied and wriggled, round the bomber, almost
    as if in play, like a butterfly round a big, indulgent St. Bernard.
    He " zoomed " as a cat scales a wall, fell into a sickening
    " vrille," came out with a clean recovery, and executed an
    " Immelmann turn " like a gutter-child flings a cartwheel.
    Quickly he gained height again, still unhurt, and as he
    pounced once more on the big machine, that clumsily tried to
    evade him, his gun spoke anew. Suddenly there was the rending
    noise of a splintering propeller. The little de Hav. had cut
    it too fine in passing, or the bomber had surged upwards
    unexpectedly. The nose of the scout was fixed, as if mortised,
    in the right wing of the battle-plane. All this passed in a few
    seconds. Both pilots switched off and stopped the flow of
    their petrol.
    The machines locked together, began to fall in a slow spin.
    The pilot of the bomber burst into explosive gutterals, and
    tried furiously to work his controls. It was utterly useless.
    They were falling now with terrific speed, and he seemed to
    feel in advance the shock that was to come, to see himself
    crushed under his own engines. He could do nothing but
    wait. The Englishman gripped the sides of his narrow
    fuselage, and hoped that what must happen would happen
    quickly. The wind whistled through the taut wires.
    The altimeter showed him 3,000 feet, 2,000, the hand
    rapidly receding on the dial. The country seemed to rush up towards them.
    Then came the crash, a great smashing
    of branches. Was it death ? The English pilot patted himself
    all over gingerly, loth to believe that he had come through
    unscathed. He crawled out of the crumpled framework.
    On the ground he saw the pilot of the German bomber, white
    with pain, and his observer bending above him, ripping open
    seams to get at the compound fracture of the leg. Of the
    three the Hun pilot was the only one gravely hurt, the other
    two being practically scathless.

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    Cred sent for these two excellent informative pieces.
    Who is going to be the first to try this on the gaming table?
    Rob.

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    Good read! Will have to try and game that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Cred sent for these two excellent informative pieces.
    Who is going to be the first to try this on the gaming table?
    Rob.
    One of my guys already tried it! In our first game with the Gotha, he rammed it by accident 5 times! with his SPAD XIII before he finally fell from the sky. The Gotha kept on flying though! lol

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    Another gripping story - thanks Trav.

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    Nice,some strange things happened

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    That report was very lyrical, almost poetical.
    However I just wonder if it really happened.
    I presume by De Haviland they ment a DH-2 & I have never heard of one attacking a Gotha or colliding with one & bringing it down & there certainly would not have been any DH-2's flying in 1918!
    Must check if there is anything on the WW1 History forums.

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    Could have been a DH5 Barry as from the story if would appear the prop was at the front of the Scout.
    Linz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linz View Post
    Could have been a DH5 Barry as from the story if would appear the prop was at the front of the Scout.
    Linz
    Ahhh now thats a possability & I wonder if the story might relate to an earlier year than when published Nov. 1918?

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    well what DH had a rear gunner ? during that time beacuse it says
    Suddenly from underneath, a little de Haviland chaser
    surged up, with the speed of a bullet. As she passed the
    observer sprayed a fan of lead from his machine-gun at the
    now thoroughly awakened Hun. The startled German
    made a mental note not to be caught that way again. The
    Spandau gun behind him broke out re-assuringly.

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    Attacking Gothas with the two-seat DH-4 would be interesting. They would not have to be very maneuverable attacking the giants and could do a lot of damage if armed with twin front and rear guns. They might do better than scouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirosis o liver View Post
    well what DH had a rear gunner ? during that time beacuse it says
    Suddenly from underneath, a little de Haviland chaser
    surged up, with the speed of a bullet. As she passed the
    observer sprayed a fan of lead from his machine-gun at the
    now thoroughly awakened Hun. The startled German
    made a mental note not to be caught that way again. The
    Spandau gun behind him broke out re-assuringly.
    Hummm! Gets more confusing.
    You certainly could not call a DH-4 a "little de Havilland chaser".
    I will see if I can get any info from the Great War in the Air Forum.

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    awesome im sure it will be interesting

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    Andrew the Site owner & member of the Aust Society of WW1 Aero Historians ( I am also a member) said he had never heard of this & looked up the Article on line.
    He has posted to refer to Russ Gannon & Graeme two of the most knowlegeable Historians on the Forum so hopefully we will get some more input shortly. Alex Revell the WW1 Aero Author is also a Forum member but is presently away on a cruise.

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    Just a wee question where did the DH Observer go?

    "Suddenly from underneath, a little de Haviland chaser
    surged up, with the speed of a bullet. As she passed the
    observer sprayed a fan of lead from his machine-gun at the
    now thoroughly awakened Hun. The startled German
    made a mental note not to be caught that way again."

    "The English pilot patted himself all over gingerly, loth to believe
    that he had come through unscathed. He crawled out of the crumpled framework.
    On the ground he saw the pilot of the German bomber, white
    with pain, and his observer bending above him, ripping open
    seams to get at the compound fracture of the leg. Of the
    three the Hun pilot was the only one gravely hurt, the other
    two being practically scathless."

    Me thinks a bit of poetic license has been going on here.

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    One other thing that Andrew on the Great War in the Air forum queried was the fact that the Gotha had a crew of 3 but only two are mentioned & the story teller keeps referring to the small & nimble Scout Aircraft & no one knowledgeable would call a 2 seater a "small scout".

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    Great read. Will have a go at some Gotha's soon.

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    It will be interesting to get to the bottom of this conundrum Barry. Still a cracking good yarn though.
    Rob.

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    Just to let you know there are no further news yet via the Great War in the Air Forum.

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    G'day All!
    I received a reply on the Great War in the Air Forum from Russ Gannon a noted Historian who has vast records of both British & German losses. Russ believes that this story is a "furfy" & not based on a real incident as he has never seen any reports of a Gotha loss as described in this story.

    Always remember, journalists never let the truth get in the way of a "Great Story".

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    Still a great story though.
    Pity it doesn't ring true
    Linz



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