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  • Under 18

    24 3.18%
  • 18-20

    9 1.19%
  • 21-25

    21 2.78%
  • 26-30

    39 5.17%
  • 31-40

    186 24.64%
  • 41-50

    250 33.11%
  • 51-60

    171 22.65%
  • 61 and over

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  1. #151

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugburz View Post
    This may sound a bit biased (and I suppose it is), but I feel as though younger individuals are less enthralled with history than members of older generations. While I won't try to put my foot in my own mouth here by tossing out superlative comments, this seemed like it might be a factor. Clearly there are people who enjoy Wings of War for a variety of reasons:
    • Collectability
    • Miniatures (they're fun!)
    • Great Game-play
    • Historic Relevance
    • All of The Above


    It is apparent that many of the people here are drawn not only to the game-play, but the time period. While I do not consider myself to be a bonefied war gamer, or armchair historian, I do feel a strong connection to these planes, their pilots, and the history surrounding the Great War. I'm 27 (soon to be 28 in December), and I definitely seem to be an aberration in contrast to my other gaming friends. I think Wings of War would see an upsurge in younger gamers as well if the products were more accessible. Hopefully the shake-up at Nexus will increase distribution so that more copies of the game can get placed in the hands of curious youngsters (people like myself included).

    Lugz
    For me it's all of the above. Great thought out post, I completely agree with your hypothesis.

  2. #152

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    ^^THIS(Okie): Exactly. George Bernard Shaw once said: "We don't stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing." Okie, I owe you a beer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    ^^THIS(Okie): Exactly. George Bernard Shaw once said: "We don't stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing." Okie, I owe you a beer!

    Here here, I'll buy him one as well.


    Tom

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    Well, I'll be starting my my senior year in ten days - unfortunately not at High school or University; I hit the "double nickle" - 55 years old.

    At least I will qualify for the senior discount in restaurants, although I believe the food is the same but they chew it for you first

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    Our group runs in age from 13 to 62, the deadliest player is the 13yr old. He was the first ace, the first to 10 kills and the first and only triple ace in the campaign.

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    Thats why its been suggest that as we gather player to name our group the "OFAC"










    Old Farts Air Corps

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    my son I both play he is 19 and I am 47, if they made this game for xbox or playstaion I probably would have never heard of this game and the poll would be so much different

  8. #158

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravitypool View Post
    Now i'm in love with WW2 planes and i'd love to personally see a japanese Shinden (a pity it could not fly, it could have kick so much ass).
    Ah but it did do, at least once as this rather poor quality film shows.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJs1O2HSosE

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    I'm 62 and play whenever I can remember where I put my Mini's!! Okie

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    I'm 59. So many game a so little time. I play game Monday night (WoW/G), Wed. night (Dystopia wars/WGS/40K epic), Friday night Deathwatch/Zombie apocalypse (using Dark Conspiracy rules).

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingryno View Post
    I'm 59. So many game a so little time. I play game Monday night (WoW/G), Wed. night (Dystopia wars/WGS/40K epic), Friday night Deathwatch/Zombie apocalypse (using Dark Conspiracy rules).

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    my first vote im 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord buffington View Post
    my first vote im 11.
    I know you, you're Itchy's little wingman

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    I, myself, have survived 50 winter... who'd a thought!?!

    My two younger boys enjoy WoW/WoG almost as much as I do, and have their own colection of custom A/C (that we painted to gether). Danny (15-years old) has, thus far, dominated our "Knights of the Skies" campaign, with 11 "kills" to his credit (next closest pilot has 2, I believe). Joshua (9-years old), who has been playing since he was six or seven, regularly kicks my butt* and is quite capable of handling four A/C simultaneously. The rest of our gaming group is 60, 54, 47, 45 and 43-years old(ish)

    * Last time we played, Josh had a SPAD VII and a Nieuport 17 ('A' guns, ace pilot), while I had a Albatros C.III escorted by a Fokker E.IV and a Halberstadt D.II. Game 1, I lost my bomber and an escort to two "BOOM" cards (out of three drawn). Game 2, I lasted a little longer (3 rounds)... the bomber drew: "5+Pilot", "5" and "5+Pilot", while my Fokker drew 2x "Engine" hits in only 5 cards. Talk about bad luck!

    Chris

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    About two or three weeks days ago, my SE5a was shot down by duoble engine failure. You get used to such things. But, you must admit it's priceless, on the other hand, when your underdog shots down much better plane in similar way One of good things about this game is you can't precisely calculate outcome. Sometimes you win, although opponent is better - and sometimes you lose, although you are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Maes View Post
    ...* Last time we played, Josh had a SPAD VII and a Nieuport 17 ('A' guns, ace pilot), while I had a Albatros C.III escorted by a Fokker E.IV and a Halberstadt D.II. Game 1, I lost my bomber and an escort to two "BOOM" cards (out of three drawn). Game 2, I lasted a little longer (3 rounds)... the bomber drew: "5+Pilot", "5" and "5+Pilot", while my Fokker drew 2x "Engine" hits in only 5 cards. Talk about bad luck! Chris
    I'd fly with you Chris - you're a bullet magnet !!

  17. #167

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    Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good!!
    Exactly John.
    As Napoleon said when he was asked if he preferred a locky or a good General. I preffer a lucky General.
    Rob.

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    I think we need to restart this poll; I've slipped into the next category
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    In at 57, am I really that old I don't feel it, I guess it is all younger players I game with, their average age is 14. It might help that I teach wargaming to kiddos and keeps me on my toes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Blake View Post
    In at 57, am I really that old I don't feel it, I guess it is all younger players I game with, their average age is 14. It might help that I teach wargaming to kiddos and keeps me on my toes
    Most of the time, I don't feel as old as the calender says I am; work is great for bring me back to the ground, in that way
    (boy to stay flying ).
    As the "old" internet saying goes: "Inside every old guy is a young kid saying: 'What the F*** happened????' "
    Karl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Blake View Post
    In at 57, am I really that old I don't feel it, I guess it is all younger players I game with, their average age is 14. It might help that I teach wargaming to kiddos and keeps me on my toes
    I'll be 57 next month. I'll miss being 56 and born in 1956. Also being the oldest of the group. One of my favorite foes is in mid-20s. Wargaming, truely bridges the ages!

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    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    I'll be 57 next month. I'll miss being 56 and born in 1956. Also being the oldest of the group. One of my favorite foes is in mid-20s. Wargaming, truely bridges the ages!
    It's nice until the 20-something kid asks you what it was like growing up during the Civl War (yes it happened to me!!).
    Karl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    It's nice until the 20-something kid asks you what it was like growing up during the Civl War (yes it happened to me!!).
    Karl
    OK,
    That hasn't happen as a serious question, but I was once asked what it was like dodging T-Rexs by a younger, inexperienced officer. I considered the source and disregarded the question.

    Jager, the question asked of you goes back to the "history as taught in schools" thing. Anything past five years in a young person's life becomes "history" and the scale of events gets blurry. Actually knowing the "dates" of events is even fuzzier, and therefore wars could be anytime in the past (IE: further than five years ago).

    Having a grey beard and a few character lines on my face makes me ancient to some, hence my Forum name of "OldGuy59". It wasn't until I started actually posting and playing with Forum members (on Skype) and meeting them in Olympia at Enfilade 2013, that I realized I wasn't that old in this group.

    I hit the 54 mark in April, so not the oldest guy in this group.

    Mike

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    Age is not important, until you have fun and feel good.
    I can tell you chaps, you are younger than you think you are
    I repeat that G.B.Shaw's sentence on and on again: "We don't stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing".
    Simply: board(F2F)gaming and it's sociable aspect makes people open minded and - younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    It's nice until the 20-something kid asks you what it was like growing up during the Civl War (yes it happened to me!!).
    Karl
    Karl, it's because of his lack of knowledge, not because of your age, I am afraid! Shame on him.

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    When we are re enacting we sometimes get asked questions like that. I was once asked if a Royalist had cut off my index finger. I just put it down to the fact that we have got them believing that we are really Parliamentary soldiers.
    Rob.

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    Once I was asked if I hunted dinosaurs by a kiddo and I answered NO, I hunted mammoths! I also remember one time class was talking about summer jobs and they were talking about mowing yards. They were all very impressed when I told them when I was 9 and mowing yards, I bought gasoline for 12 cents a gallon and sometimes there were gas wars and I bought gasoline for 8 cents per gallon. I like telling the younger crowd what it was like while I grew up, especially the part of getting my rearend busted by my dad if I did something unacceptable Then I would point to the kiddos that were having too much fun

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    I was first exposed to wargaming at age 9 back in 1977 when my friend Greg Schultz taught me to play a few of his Dad's Avalon Hill games. One of the first games I played was Richthofen's War. I got back into wargaming on a regular basis in grade 6 and have continued to play games ever since. To attract more people to our hobby I started up a wargaming convention back in 2007. Most of the people who attend my convention are in the 40+ category - age not waist size, but in the last 2 years we've been getting both couples and people bringing their kids to the convention. This year I'm hoping to leverage the popularity of both Wings of Glory and X-Wing to attract new and younger attendees. My philosophy regarding getting people into our hobby is if you can get them in the front door of your con. and they have a good time they'll be back, and the next time they'll bring a buddy.

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    Well I'm 38 for now but in November I'll be 39, and next year I'll be 40 and does this mean that I'm a mature responsible adult hmm nope I intend to never grow up lol, as I'm having lots of fun painting miniatures, gaming and reenactment will keep me entertained for years to come.

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    I will be 49 in November so I fall into the biggest category. I do have a couple sons in their twenties that like the game.

  33. #183

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    I'm going to fall out of the biggest group come the 12th.
    Oh well soon 51 to 60 will be the biggest group soon and we will all be acting as 13 year old's.

    Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by CappyTom View Post
    I'm going to fall out of the biggest group come the 12th.
    Oh well soon 51 to 60 will be the biggest group soon and we will all be acting as 13 year old's.

    Thomas
    Yes, we will all be the only 13 year old's who have underwent a colonoscopy

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    My outer shell is showing wear and tear due to the years and stress and strain of being an earth bound creature.
    But I still have that little kid mentality trapped in size this old husk I call a body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraxture View Post
    My outer shell is showing wear and tear due to the years and stress and strain of being an earth bound creature.
    But I still have that little kid mentality trapped in size this old husk I call a body.
    Spoken like a true WOW gamer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    For me it's all of the above. Great thought out post, I completely agree with your hypothesis.
    I agree . Its a way to engage in history in an interactive way , which for me at school was as bad as the dinners. Plus the WW1 planes are pretty

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    I'm 28. I don't believe this game needs just be for the older generations. However, I think it is so healthy that it is this way, as it gives younger people a group of adults to be around, in a non awkward fun environment. Its more tribal, and creates space for so much youth belonging and confidence growth, understanding of who they are, by being around their people. Growth of their identity.

    I would encourage more and more younger people to be involved, and I think its completely realistic. I got interested in WW2 model building when at the age 6, my dad gave me an old Messerschmitt 109 1:72 scale kit. Terrible quality! One with stickers not decals, and horrific bendy bright green plastic. He had forgotten it from when he was a kid, it wasn't even a birthday or anything for me, he just gave it off handedly one day. As the passion took off in me he felt concerned at what he had unleashed! heh

    From there I discovered a world of unending adventures, stories, and beautifully painted, and designed machines. I would also sit with my Dad while he built future models for me. I would sit by his side and watch and learn. when i was 10 I finished my first on my own, a 1:72 Grumman F4F Wildcat from Academy Miniatures.
    This was actually the only real father son time me and my Dad had. He was a factory worker for life, and poisoned by chemicals became depressed and non social.
    This time with him in his younger healthy window was vital for me!~ (he is now retired and researching experimental chemistry that cleans up bodies of foreign substances like heavy metals.. he has a great product now with all the legal tickets required, very proud of him! his depression has left

    Gifting a 6 year old kid a duel pack of these minis could be all it takes to do similar powerful stuff. Go even further with a deluxe set and you've got them hook line and sinker! perhaps even giving the more tactile model kits could also help, like what I got. I find these completed models convenient, at an older time poor age.

    Not every kid is into sport! Kids that love video games have a higher chance of liking board games... in my opinion anyway
    Ev

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    Here, Here!

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    Comparing the results with my local gaming community, I would have to say that they are right on!

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    I concur with flyingryno's post. And yours as well Xen!

    Quote Originally Posted by Xen View Post
    I'm 28. I don't believe this game needs just be for the older generations. However, I think it is so healthy that it is this way, as it gives younger people a group of adults to be around, in a non awkward fun environment. Its more tribal, and creates space for so much youth belonging and confidence growth, understanding of who they are, by being around their people. Growth of their identity.

    I would encourage more and more younger people to be involved, and I think its completely realistic. I got interested in WW2 model building when at the age 6, my dad gave me an old Messerschmitt 109 1:72 scale kit. Terrible quality! One with stickers not decals, and horrific bendy bright green plastic. He had forgotten it from when he was a kid, it wasn't even a birthday or anything for me, he just gave it off handedly one day. As the passion took off in me he felt concerned at what he had unleashed! heh

    From there I discovered a world of unending adventures, stories, and beautifully painted, and designed machines. I would also sit with my Dad while he built future models for me. I would sit by his side and watch and learn. when i was 10 I finished my first on my own, a 1:72 Grumman F4F Wildcat from Academy Miniatures.
    This was actually the only real father son time me and my Dad had. He was a factory worker for life, and poisoned by chemicals became depressed and non social.
    This time with him in his younger healthy window was vital for me!~ (he is now retired and researching experimental chemistry that cleans up bodies of foreign substances like heavy metals.. he has a great product now with all the legal tickets required, very proud of him! his depression has left

    Gifting a 6 year old kid a duel pack of these minis could be all it takes to do similar powerful stuff. Go even further with a deluxe set and you've got them hook line and sinker! perhaps even giving the more tactile model kits could also help, like what I got. I find these completed models convenient, at an older time poor age.

    Not every kid is into sport! Kids that love video games have a higher chance of liking board games... in my opinion anyway
    Ev

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    Wow !!!
    A very interesting poll and result!!!

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    54 and still a youngster at heart.

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    My group has two men in their twenties and two, including me, in their 60s. The rest (another 4) are in the middle.

  45. #195

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    Will be turning 50 at the end of this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chum View Post
    Will be turning 50 at the end of this year.
    Yes Kelly, it's a case of one of those demographics which keeps changing with time, but which you can't amend to correct.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    When You are Old

    WHEN you are old and gray and full of sleep
    And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
    And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
    Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;

    How many loved your moments of glad grace, 5
    And loved your beauty with love false or true;
    But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
    And loved the sorrows of your changing face.

    And bending down beside the glowing bars,
    Murmur, a little sadly, how love fled
    And paced upon the mountains overhead,
    And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.

    William Butler Yeats

    The first time I recall the urge to recite this poem, I was 24 and I was in "Portugal of the Little Ones" a 1/4 scale town for children in Coimbra (center of Portugal).
    In a little park there an old Portuguese Ju-52 sits and waits eternity.
    I felt the despair of old age and impotence.
    At the time, my girlfriend asked me if I was praying.
    I was reciting this poem.
    I never met the God of Planes to pray to him.

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    Well I must admit that I never thought of applying that particular poem to an aircraft Joaquim.
    Now that you have done so, however, I can see the relevance.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Yes Kelly, it's a case of one of those demographics which keeps changing with time, but which you can't amend to correct.
    Rob.
    Hiya Kytie,
    I'll be turning 74 in May - from June on I'll be 47. I don't see the problem...
    Bumblie3

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumblie3 View Post
    Hiya Kytie,
    I'll be turning 74 in May - from June on I'll be 47. I don't see the problem...
    Bumblie3
    You really don't, John?!
    In the next year you'll be turning 48 in May - from June on you'll be 84...
    Au contraire the song, time isn't on our side. So we might as well laugh about it and soldier on.


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