View Poll Results: How old are you?

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  • Under 18

    19 2.79%
  • 18-20

    7 1.03%
  • 21-25

    20 2.94%
  • 26-30

    38 5.59%
  • 31-40

    176 25.88%
  • 41-50

    231 33.97%
  • 51-60

    149 21.91%
  • 61 and over

    40 5.88%
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Thread: A more mature game?

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    I am 42 and my late Father would be proud of me getting out of PC World War 2 Aviation games and into Wings of Glory. I remember how he firstly taught me Chess and then when I beat him (aged 9 when he was distracted by something on TV!) we moved onto Diplomacy (which is very like Risk) ... This I most missed about not having him around any more. Now the Wife and I have discovered Wings of Glory we both play and have noted how the opposition has so far consisted of a variety of ages. Long live WGF / WGS!!!

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    Let the old boys rule

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    There is definitely a maturity amongst Wings of War / Glory players which is reflected IMHO in the quality of posts / threads found on the Aerodrome. Although there are certain words which the Aerodrome automatically bleeps if typed even as part of another word (i e Bruce ****inson as in the lead singer of Iron Maiden) I think back to what I have read on here and to the responses I have received. Wise precaution even though I have a very hard time picturing somebody on here using such words / language with adverse intent.

    Then I compare the Aerodrome to other particularly PC simulation games - the sort of thing I used to play 24/7 before I discovered Wings of Glory ... Glory be where do I start?! Some of them with younger captive audiences which I have seen are in places as bad as Youtube. I would say IE Entertainment Network's Warbirds is the best of them which I have actually used: Too much adversity and I just did not bother. At times this was at the expense of learning more about the game or learning any handy tips for turning oneself into an Ace. I feel that age is not an issue IMHO - not when the benefits shine through like they do on the Aerodrome.

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    I'm 52, and I have always loved history, miniatures and building models. Gaming with them is even better. When I was a kid, I would paint HO plastic army men and invent games. This game gives me all the above. I share the gaming with my 10 yo daughter. I've introduced her to WoG, Heroclix, Lord of the Rings miniature game, chess, assorted board games. I tried computer similuation games and strategy, but it felt so empty. I'd rather play with the pieces that I can actually hold. Virtual reality isn't real enough for me.
    As for the others that mention that kids today are lacking in historical knowledge, it's absolutely true. I teach art at the High School level and I know for a fact that the students have no grasp of history at all. They know so little about anything that came before them. And most don't care to know. It's very sad and our school system doesn't care much either. Too busy testing instead of teaching... I shall not rant on about this.
    I've wantd to start a game club at our school, but I'm not sure if I have the patience at the end of the day to work on it. The kids can be quite draining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Von Below View Post
    I'm 52, and I have always loved history, miniatures and building models. Gaming with them is even better. When I was a kid, I would paint HO plastic army men and invent games. This game gives me all the above. I share the gaming with my 10 yo daughter. I've introduced her to WoG, Heroclix, Lord of the Rings miniature game, chess, assorted board games. I tried computer similuation games and strategy, but it felt so empty. I'd rather play with the pieces that I can actually hold. Virtual reality isn't real enough for me.
    As for the others that mention that kids today are lacking in historical knowledge, it's absolutely true. I teach art at the High School level and I know for a fact that the students have no grasp of history at all. They know so little about anything that came before them. And most don't care to know. It's very sad and our school system doesn't care much either. Too busy testing instead of teaching... I shall not rant on about this.
    I've wantd to start a game club at our school, but I'm not sure if I have the patience at the end of the day to work on it. The kids can be quite draining.
    G'day Greg a couple of our Forum members have started gaming at their schools using WoG which is real dedication.
    I put on a display & talk using WoG models & mats at the Batemans Bay Museum during a week long WW1 history display for local Primary School pupils. Gave out some Ace cards to those who remembered some of my points & answered the question correctly. Hopefully it might have ignited some interest in WW1 aviation.

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    "Its a fine line indeed between going out in a Blaze of Glory or having Crashed & Burnt!"
    Member Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians

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    Quite the aerial display, Barry... I spy some nice repaint/custom jobs. How was the talk received by the kids?

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    Quite the aerial display, Barry... I spy some nice repaint/custom jobs. How was the talk received by the kids?
    Surprisingly well received by most of them & a few were really engaged & they were the ones who won the Ace Cards.

    "Its a fine line indeed between going out in a Blaze of Glory or having Crashed & Burnt!"
    Member Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Von Below View Post
    I've wantd to start a game club at our school, but I'm not sure if I have the patience at the end of the day to work on it. The kids can be quite draining.
    I know what you mean Greg. I too have thought about it, and in fact do run an early morning boardgames club at school, but only much simpler games as we only have half an hour. I will need to get a few more planes in order to run a WOG game and the plane buying is strictly controlled by my wife!

    Unless I can persuade the school to buy a couple of squadrons.

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    Hi Nathan,
    Ah Yes, the wife gambit is a tough one to play against. I too must maneuver around that myself.
    I'm not sure a WWI game would fit it to the mindset of the younger generation. Magic the Gathering and such seems to be a bigger draw. I would struggle with hosting games that don't interest me, anyway... I'm not sure how I would approach it.
    Very nice presentation, Barry. Great pics of action. Was that part of the display, too?

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    I think games are potentially a very good way to engage children with a huge number of concepts, including history, which, as we have been bemoaning on this thread children seem to be less and less interested in. Both my boys, 11 & 8, love playing WOG but don't at this stage have a full appreciation of the history behind it. If they stick with the game though the interest will probably come, as I expected many members here will testify.

    That said leading games like this in a school context are much more difficult. We will just have to keep chewing it over and see if any good ideas emerge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Von Below View Post
    I'm not sure a WWI game would fit it to the mindset of the younger generation. Magic the Gathering and such seems to be a bigger draw. I would struggle with hosting games that don't interest me, anyway... I'm not sure how I would approach it.
    Greg;
    Last year, a number of the Buckeye Gamers setup a standing game demo at Dawn Patrol at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio. Now granted, the families were going to see WW1 planes. However, we found the children to be attentive and very interested with both the game and the history. I would not underestimate what can be achieved with an adult who treats them as an equal, and provides an interesting media for fun and learning.
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    I agree that gaming has many benefits. It's the High School age kids that I teach and organizing it comes with obstacles that I would need to address. Its something I'm going to have to plan out and talk with my colleagues at the school. I have the perfect space to do this kind of stuff... We'll see.

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    Surely there are teachers among us who can develop a syllabus to guide those of us who would be willing to do this sort of thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB401 View Post
    Surely there are teachers among us who can develop a syllabus to guide those of us who would be willing to do this sort of thing!
    What would you like to see?
    “You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.” ― Plato

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    I'd be happy to help, too! With 30 years in public education, I definitely have a sense of what works and what doesn't

    All the best,
    Matt

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    We have a gaming club in its infant stages at my high school...I shall see if, once they get started, there's any interest in 'figure gaming'...right now they seem mainly to be tailoring it (or at least advertising it on the announcements) to the card folks (Magic, Yu-gi-oh, etc...). I shall keep you posted. The fact that WoG has a 'card' base may prove attractive...

    All the best,
    Matt

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    well as of the 1st i need to be bumped to the next category

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    Quote Originally Posted by milcoll73 View Post
    well as of the 1st i need to be bumped to the next category
    Ha! me too.

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    Trying to get people under 18 interested.

  21. #271

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    Wait! Now I'm in the wrong group.

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    Over 50% are 41+, I am 68+ and love gaming.

  23. #273

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    I've probably moved up to the oldest group since voting.

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    Still have 2 and a half years to the top group...sigh.

    Gaming is alive in schools around here. One of my better customers uses my painted armies at game nights at school. Granted most are fantasy type games but still it ain't card flopping or computer games. Local hobby store also has WOG nights once a month and runs from teens to retirees. I have noticed the average age of tabletop gamers seems to be in the 30 plus range at stores and 50 plus at wargaming cons around here though. Euro trash games do seem to be very popular at one of the local game stores on game nights. If I could just find someone interested in sitting down to a few on my old Avalon Hill or SPI games that would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonx View Post
    There is definitely a maturity amongst Wings of War / Glory players which is reflected IMHO in the quality of posts / threads found on the Aerodrome. Although there are certain words which the Aerodrome automatically bleeps if typed even as part of another word (i e Bruce ****inson as in the lead singer of Iron Maiden)
    This is quite amusing in a round-about way. I'm in the top group. I've been a wargamer for over 50 years. One of my earliest opponents was the afore-mentioned Bruce ***inson when we were both about 11/12 when he was living in Sheffield, still known as Paul, (his Dad was Bruce) and before he went off to Boarding school. I wonder if he remembers those days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    I've probably moved up to the oldest group since voting.
    But you've moved just from one to next one, I crossed the next one and now I am in the n+2!

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    There must be something wrong with the poll. Every time I look at it I keep getting older.

    If we should have to fight, we should be prepared to do so from the neck up instead of from the neck down. -Jimmy Doolittle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokhuah View Post
    There must be something wrong with the poll. Every time I look at it I keep getting older.
    Good one.

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    61 and over sounds much better than 71.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Consider the fact that we have younger players that aren't members. I have converted my 17 year old & my 14 year old to the game. I have also interested several younger guys at my local game store.

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    Well done, John! The next trick is to keep their interest as lots of new games appear.

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    The poll does bring up a good point, as gamers we need to subvert the younger players to our side! Much like the classic car hobby, if we don’t pass it on and gen interest there won’t be a hobby in the future.

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