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    Default Jasta 40 Carl Degelow DVII Repaint.(The Black Fokker Leader)

    This is how I tackled my Jasta 40 repaints.


    1. Freeze the plane overnight in the Freezer.

    2. Drop in almost boiling water to shock the glue line. For some reason DVII’s, unlike other models, seem to be very resistant to this treatment and needed two goes at this before they released.

    3. Remove the decals. This proved very much easier than on previous models, and I wondered if the double freeze had anything to do with it. Maybe one of our members with a more scientific bent may like to comment on this.

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    4. Prime with white paint and then Paint all parts not to be decaled.

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    5. Decal inside the wings.

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    6. Glue the wings into place.

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    7. Decal the outer wings.
    8. Touch up any edges that need it.

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    9. Add the insignia decals.

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    10. Varnish as required.
    Because I was using the Hobbyshop.cz decals which can rub off easily I tried a new method this time. After putting on the micro set, I damped the surface of the rear of the decal as recommended by the manufacturer, then applied the decal to the aircraft. Before it could curl, due to the dry side not expanding as much as the wet one, I very lightly brushed some water onto the surface with a flat brush. This helped a lot, and resisting the temptation to tamper with the slight curl that did take place, I set it aside to dry overnight. Next morning I lightly brushed some watered down PVA glue under the curl and pressed it down. Before adding the insignia decals I varnished over the plane to seal all and then used the micro- set/ micro- sol combo as usual.
    NB. Do not use micro sol on the cz decals as it will strip all the colour off even after a light coat of varnish. I found

    this out to my cost. You have been warned.

    For anyone using other brands of Cammo decals, you should be able to proceed in the normal manner without worrying about this.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Nice job Rob. Was this the Schaefer that flew overseas ?

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    Looks great... very nice job..

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    Nice job Rob.
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willi Von Klugermann View Post
    Nice job Rob. Was this the Schaefer that flew overseas ?
    Where?
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willi Von Klugermann View Post
    Nice job Rob. Was this the Schaefer that flew overseas ?
    It was indeed that aircraft Chris, although it was intended to be the last in the Red Nose Raban Jasta, until I aquired another DVII from Gunners, which then made it possible for me to start Jasta 40. That now puts me in the position of still needing another DVII for Jasta Raban, and three more to complete the aircraft in Jasta 40 for which I have information. However, this seems to be an ongoing project, for as everyone knows only too well, it is easier to find hens' teeth at the moment.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Nice job Rob.
    Thanks Steve.
    As per my promise, will be E-Mailing you shortly with the picture of your DVII.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Maybe you need to go to.....S***Ys then.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Maybe you need to go to.....S***Ys then.
    Karl
    i won't buy from another supplier if Wings makes the plane. The only time I've done this is with the kits Chris passed on to me to rescue after his fire.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    A perfect rebuilt and paintjob, Rob.
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    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

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    Amazing!

    Well done - great work!





    The model was a Wings of War D.VII?
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Pretty work Wingco - bang on as usual !

    Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"

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    Great work, as always, Rob!

    Wish I had your decal skills, but I guess thats one of those things where you actually have work at it.

    /Niclas

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    Very nice job! I love your plane

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    Love the repaint! I've been wanting to do this kite for a while, but making the Stag decal is pretty intimidating. Looks absolutely great, well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Amazing!

    Well done - great work!





    The model was a Wings of War D.VII?
    Yes Sven. It started off life as a Schafer.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Excellent work Rob!!! It looks great!!! By the way, I'm thinking about doing a repaint (first timer), what glue are you using?? This post is great for us newbies!!!

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    Great tutorial as usual Rob & what a lovely looking D.VII.
    Having read Peter Killduffs book on Degelow I have a soft spot for him & his Black Fokkers & the Golden Deer looks great.

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    Nicely done again their FOK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by somaliavet View Post
    Love the repaint! I've been wanting to do this kite for a while, but making the Stag decal is pretty intimidating. Looks absolutely great, well done!
    Drop me a PM if you want a Stag.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashx View Post
    Excellent work Rob!!! It looks great!!! By the way, I'm thinking about doing a repaint (first timer), what glue are you using?? This post is great for us newbies!!!
    The glue that I use almost exclusively is Zap-a-gap. It comes in several types but I find for this work the Medium CA+ is the best. You can also get a solvent for it which i would recommend having about just in case.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    You can also get a solvent for it which i would recommend having about just in case.
    Rob.
    As well as an Accelerator! Which, believe it or not, comes in real handy sometimes!

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    Rob, Col., thanks for the glue tip!!! I'll give it a try.

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    Awesome photos and great information. Thanks for sharing.

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    Beautiful work. Outstanding artistry.

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    Outstanding repaint. I love this plane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackronin View Post
    Outstanding repaint. I love this plane.
    I must get out of this black mood though.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Awesome paint job. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    This is how I tackled my Jasta 40 repaints.


    2. Drop in almost boiling water to shock the glue line. For some reason DVII’s, unlike other models, seem to be very resistant to this treatment and needed two goes at this before they released.
    I would emphasize almost boiling water. I "boiled" a D VII to destruction in under 15 seconds with too hot water. My understanding is that it is the temperature shock which occures with the sudden change in temperature, rather than the hotness of the water, that actually breaks the bond of the glue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Yes Sven. It started off life as a Schafer.
    Rob.
    Then flew overseas ????? I may know this bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willi Von Klugermann View Post
    Then flew overseas ????? I may know this bird.
    Indeed you do Chris.
    That one is from your stable, the one with the Cat's nether regions was kindly supplied by Guntruck.
    I hope you like the way it turned out.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Absolutely Rob. I wish I had the time, patience or talent to do that kind of work.



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