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    Captain Bigglesmay
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    right i have made a 1/144 scale Zeppelin from a paper model and have another to do (what fun)

    however as they are for a wings of war tournament we are doing at our local shop we need rules for them. we have done guns as it was on the model.it's the L48 and L49 the ones that tried to bomb London.

    damage-how many points?
    move deck-which one or do i need to made one?
    damage deck- 5 machines guns German but A or B deck or others?


    any other help is greatly needed

    Tom

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    Zeppelin raids against London:

    This is broken down by Class of Zeppelin:

    S.L. Types made 2 % of raids
    L3 Class made 3 % of raids
    L10 made 40 % of the raids
    L20 made 19 % of the raids
    L30 made 19%
    L48 made 3%
    L53 made 6%
    L70 made 2%
    the remaining 6% of raids on London where made by various prototypes.


    The L10 class where 'Type p' Zeppelins while the L20 where 'Type q',

    The L10 Class saw service primarily between march 1915 and mid 1917.
    The L20 Class saw service primarily between early/mid 1916 to the summer of 1917.

    The L10 class Zeppelins that went to the Navy designations of L10 through L25, those that went to the Army had designations of LZ72 through LZ93.

    The L20 class Zeppelins that went to the Navy designations of L20 through L31 (there where some mixes of designations with the L10 class), those that went to the Army had designations of LZ95 through LZ107.

    Concerning which damage card to us for the Zeppelins Machine Guns. Use the 'B' deck. Single mounted guns use the 'B' deck, double mtd guns use the 'A' deck.

    Damage points on Zeppelins. From a previous discussion here, 100 pts seems to have been the accepted norm.

    Movement deck for a Zeppelin? Again, from a previous discussion, moving the beast one inch per maneuver card round seems to have been what was agreed upon. (The L10 class had a top speed of 55.92mph, and the L20 class had a top speed of 59.27mph. Given the size of a Zeppelin, maneuvering during a game is rather moot, and with the size of gaming tables, rather limited. Flying one in a straight line during a game is pretty much what has been agreed upon.
    Last edited by usmc1855; 01-03-2010 at 08:31.

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    thanks for the info

    so A decks for the pods and B decks for the top deck
    and just make the movement deck smaller lengths

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    I plan to just leave my zeppelins stationary and "fly" the planes around it. If we need to simulate it leaving the area, or get having to be shot down before it makes it to location X, we will just limit the number of turns the game last. Much easier then actually trying to move a scale zep around... and it makes it where you do not need to have a huge table to play on... well, at least not quite so huge!

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    did you give the zep guns or bombs at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Bigglesmay View Post
    thanks for the info

    and just make the movement deck smaller lengths
    Not exactly. The Zeppelin would likely have only straight cards. Left turn cards, right turn cards, and stationary cards. The turn cards should probably move the nose of the Zeppelin about one inch forward and about 15 degrees in the direction of the turn.

    The Zeppelins have a massive turning radius. Have you ever played any Naval miniatures rules? Turning a Zeppelin would be like turning a Large class ship in Naval miniatures. Basically... turns are incremental, moving forward one inch, and turning the nose of the ship in the direction your are turning at about 15 degrees. This would take about 6 maneuver cards to change the direction by ninety degrees (even this is unrealistic... perhaps requiring the ship to move one forward movement between each incremental 15 degree turn would closer simulate the distance/turning radius of a Zeppelin.

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    sorry i forget the plane explosion card and pilot death card what you you do with them?

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    Pilot Death card, I think, would silence one of the Guns on the Zeppelin.

    The Explosion card? Treat it as an explosion which I would have inflict an immediate 25 pts of damage, and cause two fires, which burn for the remainder of the game.

    I say 25 pts vice immediately destroying the Zeppelin because the internal configuration of the Zeppelins had the gas contained in seperate gas bags (The L10 class had 15 gas Bags while the L20 class had 18 gas bags). And... if the explosion card was a catastrophic explosion, the game ends rather suddenly.

    Historically, the descriptions I am familiar with concerning the shooting down of Zeppelins usually had the Zeppelin gradually consumed by flames (sometimes rather quickly!). Sometimes the immolation was initiated by an explosion. When in flames the Zeppelins would try to descend for a soft landing rather than perish at altitudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc1855 View Post
    Pilot Death card, I think, would silence one of the Guns on the Zeppelin.

    The Explosion card? Treat it as an explosion which I would have inflict an immediate 25 pts of damage, and cause two fires, which burn for the remainder of the game.

    I say 25 pts vice immediately destroying the Zeppelin because the internal configuration of the Zeppelins had the gas contained in seperate gas bags (The L10 class had 15 gas Bags while the L20 class had 18 gas bags). And... if the explosion card was a catastrophic explosion, the game ends rather suddenly.

    Historically, the descriptions I am familiar with concerning the shooting down of Zeppelins usually had the Zeppelin gradually consumed by flames (sometimes rather quickly!). Sometimes the immolation was initiated by an explosion. When in flames the Zeppelins would try to descend for a soft landing rather than perish at altitudes.
    i know the L48 had 19 men on board and about 6 engineers so would that be 19 lives of death card and it would just fall when all killed

    should the explosion hit other planes such as the range marker ruler?

    thank you all for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Bigglesmay View Post
    i know the L48 had 19 men on board and about 6 engineers so would that be 19 lives of death card and it would just fall when all killed
    With so few pilot killed cards in the damage decks, I'd use it ot make an impact by having it eliminate one of the Zeppelins Machine Guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Bigglesmay View Post
    should the explosion hit other planes such as the range marker ruler?

    thank you all for your help
    From the Burning Drachens rules:

    If a balloon explodes (because of an explosion special damage result or because it takes too much damage while on fire), one C damage card is taken by each airplane within a half-ruler of distance and at teh same altitude level, and by all airplanes overlapping the balloon that are at he level just above or below it. Anti-aircraft and ground targets are unaffected by exploding ballons.
    The only modification might be a consideration of what part or the Zeppelin was in the firing arc of the aircraft causing the explosion, and measure the half-ruler distance from the part of the Zeppelin within that firing arc to determine what near by planes might be damaged by the explosion. Given the size of Zeppelins, It would make little sense to have a plane fire at he nose of the Zepeiln, cause an explosion, and have a plane to cloe to the tail end suffer damage from that explosion at the nose.

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    You probably already have this:

    The Zeppelin with a designation of L48 was an L48 Class Zeppelin, known as a Height-Climber. They where an effort to develop Zeppelins which could exceed the Max ceiling of Allied aircraft, and therefore operate above teh eemy airplane threat when conducting bombing raids.

    There where 5 L48 class Zeppelins built. There top speed was 66.8mph and each had 18 gas bags and a max ceiling of 18,000 feet. (5,500m).

    The one designated as L48 had it's first flight on May 22d, 1917 and was shot down by the RFC on June 17, 1917.

    Here are details about teh downing of this particular Zeppelin:

    The Theberton Zeppelin.
    “who art thou that judges another mans servant”
    At about 02.00 hrs on the morning of June 17th 1917 a Zeppelin crashed just outside the small village of Theberton near Leiston in Suffolk. As it descended the glow in the sky could be seen for miles around, some accounts state up to a distance of 50 miles. This Zeppelin was L48 although to be precise it should be considered as being LZ95
    (LZ = Luft Zeppelin), as it was the ninety fifth example of the type of the production line. However it was frequent for the German Navy to acquire such ships and then re-designate them with the number according to the delivery schedule. Therefore LZ95 was the Navy’s forty eighth Zeppelin and so became the L48. She was an example of the new “Height Climber” Zeppelins where everything possible including most or all the armament had been stripped back to increase operational altitude. The aluminium structure had been so refined and reduced that under certain conditions these Height Climbers could bend with appearance of a giant cucumber. Their size was immense having a total capacity volume of 55,800 square metres and an overall length of 196.5 Metres. L48 had her maiden flight still under manufacturer’s hands (as LZ95) on 22nd May 1917. Her first operational sortie was 17th June; it was during this sortie that she was destroyed. Illustrating just how Zeppelins no longer had the rule of the skies, in fact they had not had such freedom for over a near now. The inventions of Buckingham/Brock/ Pomeroy incendiary bullets had really been instrumental in their attrition rate and consequent demise in Zeppelin crew morale. Numerous quotations exist from various Zeppelin crew members who were all pre-occupied with death by burning or having to make the decision to jump. The fact that Zeppelins always crossed the coast in multiples, and that when one caught light due to being shot down it was clearly visible to these other crews must have been terrifying.






    The combat.
    Previously L48 had approached the English coast at a height of 13,000 feet; she was part of a force of four airships sent to attack London that night. L48 drifted over Orford Ness at about 02.00hrs. On board that night was KorvettenKapitan Schutze who was Kommodore of the North Sea Airship Division. From here she rounded Wickham Market. Bombs were dropped around Harwich with one being dropped over Martlesham. Once the bombs had been released the ship believed it was heading East back for home. However the compass had frozen and was giving an incorrect reading in fact L48 was heading north along the coast. At this point Anti Aircraft guns opened up both on coastal emplacements and including several on ships out at sea. Searchlights flicked on and wavered about the sky finally coning in on L48, seemingly supporting her in the night sky. Once held in search lights it was imperative for L48 to get out of the area, for two reasons: firstly AA fire could be directed far more accurately as the gunners could see the actual target…and any night flying defence fighters would see the Zeppelin from up to 40 miles away in the right weather conditions. In L48`s circumstance that it just what happened. A number of airborne pilots and crews had spotted her pinpointed by search lights and bursts of AA fire. Flying a BE2c (A8896) from the Armament Experimental Station at Orfordness Lt EW Clarke was the first to attack. Between Orfordness and Harwich he fired a total of four drums of Lewis gun ammunition from 11,000 feet at the airship which was still 2,000 feet higher. However there seemed to be no effect at all for this expenditure of ammunition. The second aeroplane to attack at this time was an FE2b B401 crewed by Lt FD Holder (Pilot) and Sgt S Ashby also from the AES, this crew also fired four drums of Lewis ammunition, and an additional thirty rounds from a fifth drum when suddenly their gun jammed. As this happened they were approximately five miles from Leiston and frustratingly within 300 yards range of their target. Previously they had seen their sparking fizzling tracers whizz away through the dark night sky, like thousands of cigarette ends all flicked at the same time, streaking away being frustratingly absorbed into the giant shape of the invader. However they had finally achieved success: it could be seen now that a small fire had started in the stern end very near the tail, a small glow initially, but one that slowly gained in size. Captain RHMS Saundby in DH2 A5058 managed to fire two and a half drums at the target, now there began to be a really serious blaze in the rear section of the airship. L48 tail section now began to take on the classic “Chinese Lantern” effect as it was illuminated from within” (Saundby was later awarded the Military Cross for his part in this action and retired from the RAF in 1946 with the rank of Air Vice Marshall) As the airship fell it was finally chased by Lt P Watkins in BE12 6610 from 37 (HD) Sqn (A Flight) at Goldhanger, he fired another two drums from 2000 down to 1000 feet, and then another from 500feet. It was Watkins who would be credited with the final “Kill” of L48
    All Pilots used standard 0.303 rounds both ball and tracer. The credit given to Watkins for shooting down L48 was purely arbitrary and probably the result of higher authority wanting such credit to go to the Home Defence organisation. Like wise numerous local tales of heroics sprang up:- L48 was shot down by one pilot single handedly, he was so keen to get airborne he was still in his pyjamas, and the method used to bring the airship down was by flying above it and throwing grenades down onto it. With the latter fact there could be some confusion with the case of Sub Lieutenant Warneford who on 6th June 1915 did actually succeed in destroying Zeppelin LZ37 over Ghent in Belgium……by dropping several small bombs on it. For this action Warneford was awarded the Victoria Cross. However despite reassuring the British public to some degree, they needed Home Front Zeppelin victories. The names of pilots and crews who brought down the likes of the Cuffley Schutte Lanz and later Zeppelins over England would become phenomenal celebrities.

    The impact of the wreckage
    As she fell in flames initially the airship nosed downwards, shortly before impact she would assume a tilted up angle as the stern section became less airworthy and lost both its gas and supporting envelope fabric. Now truly ablaze and falling, the inner structure could be seen as burning fabric fell away. Several of the crew witnessed Eichler remove his thick leather coat and start to take off his overalls (He like all the crew believed they were over the sea, and would shortly be swimming for their lives) Shortly afterwards KorvettenKapitan Viktor Schutze the Flag Officer in the Gondola clutched the edge of the map table in terror as he heard hideous screams and cries from the burning sections of the airship. Eventually the stern crashed into the ground at a 60 degree angle compacting and buckling as it sent up a huge shower of sparks and flaming fabric shreds. This angled impact smashed the rear section of the gondola, hopefully finally putting those burning crewmen in this area out of their misery. Heavier sections such as the engines were snapped from their mountings and crashed down through the burning superstructure into the soft sandy soil of Holly Tree Farm. As the engines fell through the complex structure of white hot metal the massive wooden propeller blades caused flurries of sparks and debris to rise up until each blade splintered and shattered against something more resistant. As the structure settled Ellerkamm, Miethe and Uecker lost no time in jumping down from the damaged gondola. As the three escaped they watched as the flames sprang up and consumed all the envelope fabric from the nose section. The heat was now so intense that metal covering of the gondola they had been in a few seconds before (and that their colleagues were still in) was now beginning to melt. If there was still anyone else alive within the gondola area at this time, they were destined to die in this intense fire. Some of the heavier buried sections later required intensive labour to extract them from where they had embedded themselves in the sand. Several photographs show rigs and pulleys for lifting present at the impact point. It is possible that several quite large engine associated sections may still remain buried in situ. It is rumoured that during her descent one engine detached and splashed down into the reed beds of what is now Minsmere wild life reserve. One can almost imagine the mournful cries of distressed waterfowl as the a huge Maybach engine splashed down in the marsh. However Woodbridge Museum has something else that fell from the wreckage, perhaps one of the most poignant artefacts: a sailor’s style cloth hat complete with embroidered head band. Such poignant reminders of the tragic loss of life can still be found at the crash site today. On Friday 14th April 2006 a metal detecting survey revealed the crushed remains of a button that had once been sewn onto one of the crew overalls. It took between three and five minutes from first combat for L48 to impact the ground, so slowly did she fall. However the position of the fire in the rear quarters and slow descent probably allow for the survivors, of which any were unusual in such incidents.

    The crew of L48 who were killed were:-
    Franz Georg Eichler
    Heinrich Ahrens
    Wilhelm Betz
    Walter Dippmann
    Wilhelm Gluckel
    Paul Hannemann
    Heinrich Herbst
    Franz Konig
    Wilhelm Meyer
    Karl Milich
    Michael Neunzig
    Karl Floger
    Paul Suchlich
    Viktor Schutze
    Herman Van Stockum
    Paul Westphal.


    Of her 19 man crew some records state three, some that two survived and some that there was only one survivor. (We must consider that more of the crew may have been alive when located at the scene but may have died within several hours etc of discovery) Further research seems to add confusion but also verify the last point:- in stating that one of the survivors actually died on November 11th 1918 “Armistice Day” or is this simply another local legend, or the product of wishful appropriate and rather vengeful thinking.

    The survivors were:-
    Heinrich Ellerkamm (said to be wandering around dazed after the crash)
    Wilhelm Uecker
    Otto Miethe
    Note: - It is believed to be Ellerkamm who was the crew member taken to a local house in Theberton. When the door opened and the occupant asked if she could look after him until the arrival of the authorities, her reply was “Not likely lock the bugger in the shed”


    However the following morning the scorched grass surrounded pile of wreckage was searched for bodies. Not an easy or pleasant job given the twisted mixed up mass of wires and structure that needed to be searched. From this eventually were extracted sixteen bodies in various stages of heat subjection, the more severe were almost carbonized. They were laid out in the field just beneath the towering marrow shaped superstructure of the nose section. What to some degree is certain is that 16 bodies were buried in St Peters Church at Theberton, in the mid 1960`s these were exhumed and re-buried at the German cemetery in Cannock Chase Staffordshire. The memorial over the road in the grave-yard extension to St Peters to the dead crew still remains to this day. It reads amongst other brief details “who art thou that judges another mans servant”. Numerous photographs were taken the following morning, some were taken as aerial shots by the RFC, but some of the most graphic were taken and published by J.S.Waddell a local photographer at Leiston. Also in the porch at this church resides a fairly substantial section of L48 in a glass fronted wooden case along with a brief history of the event. Numerous other artefacts are retained by local people handed down through the generations. Many pieces of this Zeppelin were made into keepsake souvenir brooches some having brass crosses attached to them, other things made were more practical i.e. eggcups etc. However the most common related items are the post cards manufactured by local and national photographers etc. Zeppelin related postcards throughout the entire Period of World War One probably number over 120 different varieties. One such postcard can be seen in the Lion Inn at Theberton, made more even interesting than usual by the fact that Sgt Ashby the gunner in the Fe2b who helped shoot down L48 has actually signed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc1855 View Post
    You probably already have this:

    The Zeppelin with a designation of L48 was an L48 Class Zeppelin, known as a Height-Climber. They where an effort to develop Zeppelins which could exceed the Max ceiling of Allied aircraft, and therefore operate above teh eemy airplane threat when conducting bombing raids.

    There where 5 L48 class Zeppelins built. There top speed was 66.8mph and each had 18 gas bags and a max ceiling of 18,000 feet. (5,500m).

    The one designated as L48 had it's first flight on May 22d, 1917 and was shot down by the RFC on June 17, 1917.

    Here are details about teh downing of this particular Zeppelin:
    yep that the info i got and led me to the question about the exploding Zeppelin. so it should do the same as the balloons even as it's bigger and more fuel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Bigglesmay View Post
    ...... so it should do the same as the balloons even as it's bigger and more fuel
    For purposes of playability within the confines of the WoW rules, that is how I would play it.

    I plan on getting one of Skytrex's new run of the L10 Class (type P) Zeppelin pretty soon, and will play it as discussed in this thread.

    This is a previous discussion on commercially available Zeppelin models:

    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...light=Zeppelin

    and here is a picture of the Skytex Zeppelin:
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    very nice and thanks for your help if when we meet on Thursday we have any more problems will ask

    will have to put pics of my Zeppelin up

    Tom

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    A lot of great info that answered my questions. Except one how do I handle collisions? We played with a zep last weekend and almost had a collision and were not sure how to handle damage if it did happen.

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    I would handle it the same as two planes colliding... both draw a C damage and apply it.

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    My opinion is, that it should be like end of playarea, becouse Zeppelins were just too big (like borders of table etc.). But normal system of collision can work well too.

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    I am thinking of running a zeppelin at my convention (for aesthetic value if nothing else), and mounting the jpeg on foam board (until such a time I can afford the Skytex).

    Question: what are the firing arcs -- or have I missed a picture/discussion of these somewhere?

    Thanks!

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    Also, can anyone give me an idea of scaling the jpeg image from this site? I know nothing about graphic manipulation (having the same problems with the extra plane cards). I am using a Mac, but have no extra software (was thinking of downloading GIMP or Seashore).

    Thanks!

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    [QUOTE=KiltedWolf;29362]I am thinking of running a zeppelin at my convention (for aesthetic value if nothing else), and mounting the jpeg on foam board (until such a time I can afford the Skytex).

    Question: what are the firing arcs -- or have I missed a picture/discussion of these somewhere?

    Thanks![/QUOTE ]Our group simply allowed for 3 gun locations. 1 near the nose, 1 in the center, and 1 near the tail. We gave each a 360 firing arc with A guns. (We were using the 100pt Zepp in the file section)

    We also used these areas to represent damage zones, so that fires could breakout in seperate sections. Our target was moored so we did not have to worry about movement.

    As far as printing the 100pt Zep card, you should be able to open it in MS PAINT that comes with most computers and print it as is. It will take up 3 - 8.5 x 11 pieces of paper. I have been using paint shop pro8 reciently and find it very computer challenged user friendly You can open a file in this program and actually see what the printing dimentions will be while you are working on it.

    Good luck!
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    The UK BBC2 tv programme Time Watch (can be down loaded from Sunday via BBCi Player) was about the Zeppelin raids on the UK in WW1 and gave some background on various airships, their captains and their fate.

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    Just bought the Osprey book for the roster and dimensional data in the Appendix alone--it rocks, for being short and not having blueprints!

    Some size and population data for consideration...

    Smallest "standard model": Type L (Army Z VII and Z VIII), 42-2/3" long x 4-1/9" diameter
    Largest: Stretched Type X (Navy L57 and L59 Afrikaschiffen and L71, all after rebuilds), 61-8/9" long x 6-5/9" diameter (That's 5'2", or very close to as long as I am tall!)
    Most common: Type P (Army LZ72/LZ74/LZ85-88/LZ90/LZ93, and Navy L10-19/L21-22/L25), 44-5/7" long x 5-1/9" diameter, 20 built
    *Note: many P's were stretched into Type Q's, I count such conversions in both P and Q populations--also, Army LZ88 was transferred and became Navy L25 when the Army moved out of the airship business; many ships were transferred, but L25 was the only one I've found to be redesignated into Navy number series
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    Brian,
    EXCELLENT info! Thanks much..

    Keith,
    Great idea...keep the Zep. stationary and just fly arounf it...

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    Oh, the dimensions I gave above are for game-scale models.
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    Gotta love the Zeppelin!

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    Tom - consider arming some of your aircraft with Ranken Darts that Happy brought to our attention here - might give you a different dimension to the game and I'm sure the chaps would appreciate seeing how they work !
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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Tom - consider arming some of your aircraft with Ranken Darts that Happy brought to our attention here - might give you a different dimension to the game and I'm sure the chaps would appreciate seeing how they work !
    Oh No! Not the Rankens...maybe set the Zep up and through real darts at it?

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    A very interesting early thread given this months OTT Early Doors scenario

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    Just my two pfennigs worth, but a Zeppelin on fire is finished. One could use the Hindenburg video as an example. If a Zeppelin is lit on fire, it will be consumed by flames in short order. Any aerodynamic effect will be lost, directional control impossible, and combat capabilities eliminated. Everyone who remains on board is just along for the ride and landing is assured, but with not much lift remaining, depending on altitude. The Hindenburg, which was little more than a hundred meters above the ground took just a recorded 34 seconds to engulf the entire ship in flames. The flame erupted near the tail and as such, lift was lost there first, as would be expected.

    If the attackers are using incendiary bullets, and score a hit that ignites a gas cell, a critical hit has been achieved.
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    Hmmm... Thirty four seconds is equivalent to 17 phase, or 5 2/3s turns in Wings of Glory. Usually, that is about as long as a game lasts with the Zeppelin, if attacked by four or more planes.
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    I’m kinda interested in where to obtain plans for a paper Zeppelin?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BwanaJoe View Post
    I’m kinda interested in where to obtain plans for a paper Zeppelin?!
    There are a few places online, some free, some of good quality.

    Just found this one: Zeppelin LZ-45 Free Paper Model Download

    I don't know how 'free' this is, nor how good the model might be. An account is necessary.

    But, there are many site out there with plans. Another one, but with a plan at low res: TheScienceBookstore - Zeppelin Paper Model-1924 Note: the date is later than WWI for this specific model.

    PS: Hits and other stats for Zeppelins are on cards: Dear Santa What I Want for Christmas...

    PPS: And if you want a firing arc card: Downloads - Zeppelin LZ41 (L-11) Firing Arc Card
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    Thanks! I looked a couple of years ago and never found plans. Just people talking about eventually making plans.



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