2-Seater Blind Spot

**Carlos Lopes** · 12-13-2009 11:04

Hello

I'm using Lieutenant George (Belis4rius) rules to work out the 2-seater blind spot problem.

I think that is quite playable in this way.

Other solutions may be more accurate but less playable (almost remove the rear gun) and without rear gun and no immelman, the 2-seaters are seating ducks.

Bye

**billingspike** · 02-05-2012 06:33

Originally Posted by KirkH

In the post #39 pic, shouldn't the Roland in the 2 o'clock position relative to the Breguet say "Cannot be shot at because it is out of the arc of the rear gun"?

I saw that ,,but i always think in terms of the minis ,,and theres no way that plane shoots from his stand to the other plane stand inside that arc.But hes talking cards.

**IRM** · 02-07-2012 08:07

There's every way

You only need to have part of the target card, or base with the miniatures, in arc to shoot using standard rules (you still draw a line centre to centre to check the blind spot, as in the diagram). There is a rules variant where you use the card image as the target in all situations. Some people use that rule with the minis too, although given the much larger scale of the minis in comparison I've never thought it to be a good idea. YMMV. Have played around with a hybrid version, placing the card under the base and using that for targeting.

**Gallo Rojo** · 07-23-2012 07:10

so... the blind-spot rule only applies at close range (1st half of the ruler)? two seater rear gunner can still shoot a target in 'the blind spot' if at long distance (2nd half of the ruler)? (this question may sound stupid after all the discussion but I've been thinking that the blind-spot rule prevented rear-gunners to shoot targets at any distance - as long as they were at the same altitude)

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 07-23-2012 11:22

Originally Posted by Gallo Rojo

so... the blind-spot rule only applies at close range (1st half of the ruler)? two seater rear gunner can still shoot a target in 'the blind spot' if at long distance (2nd half of the ruler)? (this question may sound stupid after all the discussion but I've been thinking that the blind-spot rule prevented rear-gunners to shoot targets at any distance - as long as they were at the same altitude)

No you are correct Ezekiel, it is only at short range that the tail gets in the way.
Rob.

**Marechallannes** · 07-23-2012 21:30

Use a template. Make it easier to determine, if you can shoot at a plane or not.

**diceslinger** · 07-24-2012 08:01

After reading this thread and one other about the rear gun blind spot I see why the template is an elegant solution. Quick and easy! I'll be printing one out and making one.
While Marchallannes is too humble to link to his templates in the download section I will. http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...do=file&id=915 Which one do I use for standard two seaters?

**Marechallannes** · 07-24-2012 13:11

Those are the blind spots for the Flight of the Giants WW I bombers.

I didn't post a file for the standard WW I & WW II blind spot.

All you need is a piece of white paper, a flight base, a pair of compasses, a (normal) ruler and a (WoG) ruler for the distance.

**CappyTom** · 07-24-2012 16:50

Originally Posted by Marechallannes

Those are the blind spots for the Flight of the Giants WW I bombers.

I didn't post a file for the standard WW I & WW II blind spot.

All you need is a piece of white paper, a flight base, a pair of compasses, a (normal) ruler and a (WoG) ruler for the distance.

What game board does that go too?

Thomas