Josef Jacobs

**Gladius** · 04-26-2011 22:20

Hi All,

Here goes my first thread!

In my Wings of War obsession, I am doing a repaint of the Josef Jacobs DR1 with the devil's head on the sides. Does anyone know where I can get a 1/144 scale decal for that. If successful, I will do an Albatross DVa as well. if I really go nuts...I may do a Pfalz and a DVII too.

Thanks in advance,

Jim

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 04-27-2011 00:02

You might be able to get hold of these. They are in 1/48 scale, but if you can get them we can reduce them for you.

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Rob.

**rapier1642** · 04-27-2011 03:13

You can also contact Riversco...they used to do some custom decals for planes, though I can't remember what they charged

Jim

**gully_raker** · 04-27-2011 18:33

By the way Jim, Jacobs image is of the God of the North Wind not the Devil (think it was the North anyhow?)

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 04-28-2011 01:35

Originally Posted by gully_raker

By the way Jim, Jacobs image is of the God of the North Wind not the Devil (think it was the North anyhow?)

That makes me feel much better Barry. I thought it was just my bad eyesight

, when I found that set of decals. I was trying to see how that could be the Devil.
Rob.

**rapier1642** · 04-29-2011 12:12

If you do have luck finding a set of decals for Josef Jacobs Dr.1 let me know, as I would be interested in a set as well.

Jim (the other one that is)

**Tomitchoe** · 04-29-2011 13:58

I have already been looking for these decals since I started collecting. Didn't find them yet or always on a greater scale to my regret....

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 04-29-2011 14:41

As I said in my earlier post, scale is not important. If you get them,I can reduce them to any size you want.

Rob.

**Guntruck** · 04-30-2011 03:45

One possible avenue to explore is find the Roden 1/32 scale Triplane (or better still find a friend that's got one as they are OOP and expensive) and scan the decals from the kit. Unfortunately Roden don't put the same decals in their 1/72 Triplane, which would make the exercise a bit more cost-effective.

**Gladius** · 05-01-2011 07:43

Thanks all,

I am trying to find a set of decals. I am glad that scale is not an issue. I think I found a place to get 1/48.

On another note, I picked up the Osprey book titled DR 1 Aces of World War I. The text on Josef Jacobs stated that he referred to his symbol at different times as "the god of the north winds" and also a "fire-spitting witch." Historians later called it a "devil's head." You are correct gentlemen, thanks.

I will let you all know when I get some decals. I do need help reducing them. I would prefer to avoid painting the symbol myself.

Thanks again,

Jim

**Gladius** · 05-01-2011 08:01

Just to add to the process, I thought I saw that someone makes custom cards that can go with the miniatures? If so, I am interested in finding the cost of building Josef Jacobs cards, the DR 1, the albatross D Va, and a D VII (maybe even a Pfalz D III).

Thanks,

Jim

**gully_raker** · 05-02-2011 03:32

Dont know if this image will help you scan the image & have it reduced to 1/144 scale but heres hoping

Good Luck!

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**Gladius** · 05-03-2011 14:41

Flying Officer Kyte,

can we use the picture that gully_raker found for decals? Also, I called Copper State models, but had to leave a message. I am hoping to push forward.

Jim

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-04-2011 01:28

The problem with the image you have here is the black outline. I would normally use the magic wand tool to pick off the background but with the breath etc. merging into the black it would be impossible for me to do that.:eek2: Picking out individual pixels would just take me too long

(that's the trouble when you are partially sighted

) I really need a clean background to be able to get a good decal off.

Rob.

**batesyboy** · 05-04-2011 02:58

I`ll have a crack if you like Rob,
I`ll base them on the decal above...
Batesyboy

**batesyboy** · 05-04-2011 03:53

Okey dokes,
I had to redraw...also this version (based on the decal) doesn`t feature the second yellow wing...will this suffice ?

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-04-2011 05:54

Originally Posted by Gladius

Flying Officer Kyte,

can we use the picture that gully_raker found for decals? Also, I called Copper State models, but had to leave a message. I am hoping to push forward.

Jim

Do you like the one lee has come up with Jim? If so I'll go ahead and produce that one for you.
Rob.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-04-2011 05:55

Originally Posted by batesyboy

Okey dokes,
I had to redraw...also this version (based on the decal) doesn`t feature the second yellow wing...will this suffice ?

Thanks for that Lee. I think we can make a decent decal out of that one.
Rob.

**rapier1642** · 05-04-2011 06:27

If you are making that up Rob, let me know I would love 2 sets, because it looks like Jacobs used the design on both is Dr.1 and a D.VII

Jim

**Gladius** · 05-04-2011 15:11

Yes, I love it! At 1/144 it will look excellent. If possible, I would like sets for...a DR 1, an Albatross D Va, and a D VII (maybe even a Pfalz). Is 4 sets too much to ask? maybe even a 5th, for mistakes? What would that cost me?

Thanks everyone,

Jim

P.S. maybe just 3 sets (feeling guilty asking for so much)
Thanks again

**Hunter** · 05-04-2011 17:27

Wow! I didn't you could do that with decals! Boy, this sight is awesome.

**batesyboy** · 05-07-2011 05:02

I should be able to do the artwork for any decals, but i don`t want to be nicking somebody elses custom...
Just give us a shout and i`ll forward artwork to Rob
Batesyboy

**Gladius** · 05-07-2011 14:24

Thanks,

Yes please, 3 sets. (DR 1, D VII, and D Va)

Jim

**MayorJim** · 05-07-2011 19:43

Originally Posted by gully_raker

Dont know if this image will help you scan the image & have it reduced to 1/144 scale but heres hoping

Good Luck!

Now that would be one awesome looking plane! Um...the "devil's" in the details

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-08-2011 12:32

Originally Posted by batesyboy

I should be able to do the artwork for any decals, but i don`t want to be nicking somebody elses custom...
Just give us a shout and i`ll forward artwork to Rob
Batesyboy

That is no problem Lee. I only do these as a favour. There is no financial transaction. Anyone who can help out by taking some of the load and saving my decal paper is welcome to do it. If there are any of my decals you want copies of I will gladly E -mail the images to you free and for gratis.
Rob.

**Getter 1** · 05-08-2011 12:39

There's a real easy solution to your decal issue. Fiddler's Green has a Dr.1 in Jacobs scheme all ready and pre-colored. You just have to do it in cardstock

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/

I have one printed out but haven't built it yet. I did do Bolle's Dr.1 if you want to see how they turn out.

G1

**batesyboy** · 05-08-2011 13:09

Ooooops sorry Wingco I thought you had some sort of decal company...
I`m sure those you do pass on to wouldn`t mind chipping in for your decal paper, particularly when these
decals are not produced anywhere else...
I don`t use decals myself, but i don`t mind sorting out any artwork `Gratis` as you say
I did (unsuccessfully) try to make my own decals, back when i did plastic models...
Once again i apologise as decal paper was very expensive when i had a stab at it
Batesyboy

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-09-2011 00:20

Originally Posted by batesyboy

Ooooops sorry Wingco I thought you had some sort of decal company...
I`m sure those you do pass on to wouldn`t mind chipping in for your decal paper, particularly when these
decals are not produced anywhere else...
I don`t use decals myself, but i don`t mind sorting out any artwork `Gratis` as you say
I did (unsuccessfully) try to make my own decals, back when i did plastic models...
Once again i apologise as decal paper was very expensive when i had a stab at it
Batesyboy

No Lee, I'm just an interested amature. As I do dets for myself i help out friends who have the same trouble in finding the right sets. I have been helped myself in this way, so feel it only fair to spread the bounty around the drome.
Rob.

**Gladius** · 05-12-2011 19:18

Thank you Rob,

I sent my address to you via PM. I am grateful for your help. I will have to put pictures of the finished products up here. I picked up a D VII as well. I better get painting, thanks.

Jim

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 05-13-2011 01:10

Originally Posted by Gladius

Thank you Rob,

I sent my address to you via PM. I am grateful for your help. I will have to put pictures of the finished products up here. I picked up a D VII as well. I better get painting, thanks.

Jim

That's fine Jim. No problems. P.M. sent.
Rob.

**batesyboy** · 05-15-2011 12:11

Have applied my `decal `to a FG Tripe` will post pic when complete...
Also have finished drawing up a Fokker DV (they were used to get the pilots up to speed
with the 100hp Oberursel rotary engine, prior to flying the DR1)
Batesyboy

**batesyboy** · 05-16-2011 03:55

Here` my FG Repaint of Jacob`s bus...
There`s a few more pic`s on my `card models in 144th scale` thread
Cheers
Batesyboy

**Gladius** · 05-19-2011 20:19

Very Nice. I am jealous...but not for very long.

Thanks,

Jim

P.S. Are the crosses decals or did you paint them?

**Boney10** · 05-20-2011 05:23

Very nicely done Lee.
Can I ask what make is the Pilot ? also the cross on the bottom wing where did you get that info from ? it seems unusual to me, I take it there is another set on the underside of the bottom wing ?

**batesyboy** · 05-20-2011 08:38

Hi Chris, Jacobs had a penchant for extra crosses, i think his albatros had four on
the upper surface.
The crosses on the underside of the bottom wing are thinner, but they are there all the same.
This is a card model, actually a Fiddlers Green model that i have repainted on the computer
so there`s no decals as such.
The pilot is a white metal item from Peter Pig, and the first time i`ve tried them.
Most of the models on my `card models at 1/144th scale` thread feature card stock pilots,
Which seem to be ok at this scale
Batesyboy

**Boney10** · 05-20-2011 10:13

Hi Lee, thanks for the gen.
I also have done a Jacobs with the 4 crosses on the top wing, but not used the breathing decals as yet, my model is a DVa.
I have read your card threads with interest and am in the process of doing a Halberstadt.
So Peter Pig pilots, I am off to Triples tomorrow so will pay them a visit if they are there, Skytrex also getting some custom as DR1 & DVII are like the proverbial rockinghorse droppings to obtain at the moment.
Now understand the acronym FG, silly me thought you meant Fantasyflight Games not Fiddlers Green