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    Hi everyone!

    I had been poking around the Flight of the Giants rule book and I was wondering if you guys had some kind of default number of bombs that yo use? Also, some average bomb weights in WWI would be useful; or if you can give the average real-life number of bombs carried.

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    Hunter
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    The things I have read about the Capronis and 0/100 and 0/400 was that they tended to drop their entire load at once and get out of the archi as soon as was possible. I don't have any real knowledge on the German bombers.

    The 0/400 carried about a ton (2000lbs) of bombs and 4-5 Vickers machine guns
    The 0/100 (visually very similar to the 0/400, had less powerful engines) carried 3/4 ton of bombs (1750lbs) and 4 or 5 MG.
    Both planes at times carried more or less fuel and machine guns in order to tote up more bombs.

    The Caproni C2 carried less of a load (2 MG, dunno bomb tonnage, but I have read between 1000 and 1500lbs), and had horribly unreliable engines (especially the ones sold to the US, which were using different engines then the Italian flown planes).

    I don't know much about the C1 or C3, though I would imagine the C1 carried a bit less then the C2, and the C3 carried about what the 0/100 carried.

    Zach

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    Useful info, thanks. But what do you use?

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    It's hard to come up with a typical number, as bomb weights were massively variable - a full load might be two 500 pounders, eight 112 pounders, or an awful lot of 20s.... For a few German examples, loads carried by the "England squadron" included:

    Zeppelin Staaken R.VI with a dozen or more 50kg, 2-3x 300kg, or 1x 1000 kg bomb - as the campaign developed the single one-tonner seems to have become the preferred load.

    Gotha G IV with between 3 and 7x 50kg bomb.
    12.5 kg fragmentation bombs were often carried by the Gothas too - these were often used to "get their eye in" before dropping the heavies - German bomb dropping was one or two at a time, often over several minutes - a single bomber could drop bombs over several miles. If I had to guess at a typical load I'd say 4x 12.5 and 4 or 5x 50.

    Bear in mind that these were operating towards the limit of their range for the Gothas in particular - aircraft operating over the front could often carry more - typically 500kg for Gothas. (Oh and if you want to do the first ever bombing raid against England you need an FF29 seaplane and 4x 2kg bombs.... )

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    (The above deliberately excludes incendiaries, which were dropped by the crate, being only 4.5 - 5kg for most types, and a single kilo for the highly effective elektron (magnesium alloy....) bomb- if the planned fire bombing raids of very late 1918 had gone ahead the Gothas would've been dropping 300 or more per sortie and the Staakens a thousand or so, which might not have been too pleasant....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aero825 View Post
    Useful info, thanks. But what do you use?
    Hunter,
    To answer your question...we usually use any where from 2 to 4 bomb "loads"...the loads can be dropped as 1 load of 2 bombs or 2 loads of x number bombs. Keep in mind that at this scale (game wise thatis), you probably can only make 1 or 2 passes to drop your load before all heck breaks loose and you need to get back to base. So, for example, say your mission is to bomb a rail station (or factory or whatever). If you drop 2 loads of bombs on your 1st pass...maybe one of those 2 loads may be a dud!...on your 2nd pass (if your still alive) your 2nd load might be 100 percent effective. To destroy the target, the scenario might cal for a 50 percent success rate of 4 bombs (that would be 2 loads)...if you miss your target, but come close...say on target card but off from the red-dot...you need 75 percent of your bombs to successfully explode. To determine effectiveness of the bombs in each load, you can roll a die or pull a card or whatever is agreed upon up front...Hope that answers your question!

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    Hunter.
    You really need to get hold of the book "First Blitz" if you can. It is nearly as informative as Dom, but also contains some pictures of the planes, plus a chart showing where each bomb dropped in and around London.
    Rob.
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    Where do you think my info came from Rob...? . Excellent book....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom S View Post
    Where do you think my info came from Rob...? . Excellent book....
    I had a vague idea that it might have done Dom.

    Rob.
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    Which "First Blitz" lads, Neil Hanson or Andrew Hyde?? Mind you, I have neither so a trip to Amazon might be in order. However I will await your recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algynon View Post
    Which "First Blitz" lads, Neil Hanson or Andrew Hyde?? Mind you, I have neither so a trip to Amazon might be in order. However I will await your recommendation.
    Neil Hanson, Bob.
    Rob.
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    Thank you Robs, Order has just been made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algynon View Post
    Thank you Robs, Order has just been made.
    I hope our good wing commader gets his commision from Amazon
    Karl
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    Hunter, the Brequet 14 B2 w/300 hp Renault 12Fcx engine carried a 355kg bomb load of 32 115mm bombs or equivalent. meanwhile the Brequet 14 A2 recon w/310 hp Renault 12Fcy engine carried 4 120mm bombs. The French built Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter 1B1 single seat bomber w/135hp Clerget 9Ba engine carried 150kg of bombs. The French built Caproni 5 were configured to carry 2 75kg and 9 25kg bombs. If you want any more info on French bombers let me know. John



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