Hello all,
Here is my next prototype.
Can someone improve my card
(I couldn't do better)
Lloyd 40.15 Card
Hello all,
Here is my next prototype.
Can someone improve my card
(I couldn't do better)
A triplane with an in-line engine? Mind blown.
It's not the only one, Albatros also tested a triplane - The Albatros Dr.I
(You give me an idea for a future plane)
As did Pfalz with their D.IIIa experimental triplaneOriginally Posted by Flingueur-Phil
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
And then there is the Albatros Dr.2
Looks liks a battle of the prototypes in the making.
This subject piqued my interest. A quick online search turned up several experimental triplanes which featured an inline engine, a/c of the WW1 period.
The card is nicely done. I've been looking for a better line drawing for a base.Hello all,
Here is my next prototype.
Can someone improve my card
(I couldn't do better)
What I'd do differently would be shading and highlighting, to give the drawing a three dimensional appearance.
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
Thanks mike,
I will have more to do.
If it's not too complicated, tell me how to do it (step by step)
My 'DFW T.28 Floh' is finished,
Tell me how to improve this card (if necessary)
What was the reason for using rotary engine for triplanes and why seems in-line engine like nonsense?
Both cards nicely done, Philippe. I look forward to seeing you use these in a mission. It would be quite interesting and fun.My 'DFW T.28 Floh' is finished,
Tell me how to improve this card (if necessary)
IIRC...What was the reason for using rotary engine for triplanes and why seems in-line engine like nonsense?
Per the Sopwith Triplane, it was a matter of balance/weight distribution/aerodynamcis. The premise of the plane's design was visibility, hence the shorter wingspan.
Per the Fokker Dr.I, it was a matter or providing torque sufficient to accomplish exceedingly sharp right turns.
Rotary engines offered a good power to weight ratio. The two notably successful triplanes, the Sopwith and the Fokker, owed their success to the rotary engine, to a degree. They were also deployed at just the right time when they made an impact on the air war. Their usefulness, however was relatively short-lived. Other rotary engined tripes, the Pfalz and perhaps the Euler, and maybe the Nieuport, were not terrible aircraft, but did not offer sufficiently improved performance. The same is said for the tripes that were inline-engined, such as the Albatros and Pfalz (a development of the D-III).What was the reason for using rotary engine for triplanes and why seems in-line engine like nonsense?
The triplane was and still is an interesting concept. The rotary engined types were most successful, so we naturally think of these, the Sopwith and the Fokker, when we think of triplanes.
It is interesting that triplanes are not much seen in the forum AARs.
Very interesting, thank you both
This is the best line drawing I could find for the Lloyd 40.15.
For any card, I try to get some drawing that accurately represents the plane. Vector drawings are best, where I can adjust the thickness of the lines. There aren't many drawings of the Lloyd 40.15, and some of them are not good for cards.
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
It has been done before, because I learned a lot on this Forum. I just can't find the threads or 'How-To"s I used to develop my skills. I use a graphics program that lets me do work on different layers, allowing customization of parts of the image, without changing all of the image. I use Photoshop. You can use others, including GIMP which should be free to use. I am not familiar with GIMP, though, so can't tell you much about how to work with it.Thanks mike,
I will have more to do.
If it's not too complicated, tell me how to do it (step by step)
This thread is complicated, but it covers a lot of my techniques for WWII planes:
Link-> Custom Bomber Cards - Discussions
Post #23 is the basics of shading and highlighting. For Biplanes, or multi-wing planes (pontoons? planes with different levels of shadows), I do different layers with shadows just for that level. The tail/rudder is a separate layer, as well.
For the Lloyd 40.15, I would use three layers for the shading (shadows of the wings, fuselage, and the tail/rudder), add in a layer for the wing rib shadows, and two separate layers for the overall highlights and wing rib highlights. This would allow for separate adjustment of each element, and correct borders/lines as needed to ensure the shadows fall properly.
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
What has always intrigued me is how successful Josef Jacobs was with the Dr.I. He insisted on flying it instead of the D.VII. In terms of victories he was...
#2 among Central Powers pilots that survived the war
#4 among all Central Power pilots
#8 among pilots that survived the war
#13 among all pilots involved in the war
They could save the weight of the flywheel, because the whole engine acts like a flywheel.
Speaking of which, here it is !
Now, these obscure a/c types will need equally obscure opponents. Do you have any in mind, Philippe?Hello all,
Here is my next prototype.
Can someone improve my card
(I couldn't do better)
Weyman W.1
Ponnier M1.
Dufaux C2
Caproni-Pensuti 2
Louis Clément triplane
Port Victoria PV2
Sopwith Bee
De Havilland DH10 Amiens
Vickers Vimy
Backburn TB
this is 'Floh'
I suspect that the successful attributes of the Tripehound and the Fokker do not translate as well into the WoG gaming engine, as
other planes do. Their climb, and maneuverability while climbing seems muted, and their speed is less than many contemporary foes.
While my bird of choice is the D.VII, I'll gladly fly a Dr.I anytime. I have very little stick time in the Sopwith, so can't comment from personal experience.
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
Very nice, Philippethis is 'Floh'
Make the plane image smaller, perhaps - more flea like !
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
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