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    Default Handley Page dreaming

    Or should that be ‘Handley Page nightmare’?

    Hm, what could I do here…

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    Hm, somewhere in my stash I have some Shapeways Lewis guns and some Shapeways pilots and some N gauge figures…

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    Now what could possibly happen if I put that lot in a dark corner and left it for a week or three??

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    Beautiful. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.

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    Someone's got a touch of the "Clipper"s
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Someone's got a touch of the "Clipper"s
    Well, I do have one of his Zeppelins - maybe it was ‘infected’ with a COVID-like bug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles downunder View Post
    Well, I do have one of his Zeppelins - maybe it was ‘infected’ with a COVID-like bug
    Look for signs of elves around the house.

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    Just a couple of ideas I’m kicking around…

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    That might have a monster blindspot with the tail lay out - maybe a tail gunner could added.. You'll end up with a bigger version of the Vickers Virginia X

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    That might have a monster blindspot with the tail lay out - maybe a tail gunner could added.. You'll end up with a bigger version of the Vickers Virginia X
    Maybe I could include both rear gunner options and end up with something like the Felixstowe rear firing arcs?

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    ironic. i was just watching a video about one of its predecessors the hp 30.

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    Time to return to this project - windows glued in and a little experimental scraping to see how easy it is to remove the corrugations. The answer is ‘very’!

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    Tomorrow evening is ‘the gang of 4 at my place’ so no modelling until Wednesday - then I’ll scrape the remainder of the corrugations and fill the windows and other gaps/holes with putty. After that is smoothed I can then begin work on the gunner positions and the open cockpit as per my previous rough sketches.
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    Well, after today's postal delivery, I have no excuse now not to crack on with this - well, apart from fixing the leaking gutter, replacing the drive belt on the pool robot and...

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    Well, an evening spent scraping and I’ve finally smoothed all of the corrugations - phew!

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    The next step is to fill in the windows and then start work on the nose gunner and pilot’s positions.

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    Side windows and door filled so now I wait for the putty to dry and then smooth the sides - tomorrow evening’s job!

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    Look forward to seeing how it all turns out Wayne.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Look forward to seeing how it all turns out Wayne.
    That makes two of us!

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    Make that three...
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Maybe I should get one of these to keep me ‘amused’ in between times!

    https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tako...rship--1359460

    We are looking forward to a week of mid to high 30’s (Celsius) so not much airbrushing this week

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    Fuselage halves undercoated and sanded - still some windows to fill. Though I must keep reminding myself that it is a tabletop gaming piece!!

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    I think a closeup photo makes it look worse than it really is but still…

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    I have now finished smoothing the filler on the side windows and a test fit revealed a potential problem - the lack of support on the upper rear fuselage sides. This was addressed by cutting a piece of strip and gluing it to one fuselage half.

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    This should alleviate any future cracking when I come to smoothing this area of the model. That done, it was time to join the fuselage halves - woo hoo, now we are making progress!

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    While I was doing this I noticed a couple of large-ish gaps along the bottom join. Oh well, time to mix up another batch of sprue goo

    The next step will be to create a nose gunner position in the former cockpit and create a new exposed side-by-side cockpit behind that (as per my earlier sketches) as well as sort out the rear gunner positions. I left one rear window open on each side for beam gunners and am contemplating another position behind the rear wing again, as per my earlier sketches (ala the Felixstowe).
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    Time to start test fitting the lower wing and upper fuselage panels. While I’m about it, I’ll box in the nose-gunner position.

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    After the glue had set I was able to shape the plastic card to match the nose contours.

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    Hm, lots of gaps to be filled here!

    Next step is to work on the cockpit and also the rear-gunner position. Messing around with a black marker pen will help visualize my idea/plan…

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    Starting to look like a plane there, Wayne.

    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Looking forward to seeing the final result. Keep up the excellent posts.

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    Admire your patience Wayne, it's looking good.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    So much work - I salute your dedication.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    I achieved a little bit more this evening. I got the nose-gunner and mid-upper positions sorted. I also completed the cockpit and began test fitting the pilots. Gunners and pilots are Peter Pig mouldings.

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    I have some Shapeways Lewis guns that I will use in the beam positions but all guns and crew will be fitted as the last step - otherwise I fear they could become the cause of naughty words as I assemble, fill, paint and decal the kit!

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    Well I’ve finished cleaning up the strut assemblies and bagged them as I cleaned the flash and marked each bag with the part numbers. This was where the moulds showed evidence of their age!

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    Then it was off to dig out the Lego my kids used to play with to build a jig to supplement the one provided.

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    This allowed me to test fit the first of the struts before gluing them which was lucky as I had misinterpreted the instructions.

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    After some generous amounts of Tamiya tape I could glue them, check the alignment and leave it to set over night.

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    If you look closely you can just see the provided jig that supports the trailing edge while the first of the front struts a glued.

    It was about then I realized that I still had a heap of struts to clean up, oh well, that takes care of tomorrow’s modelling session!

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    who said Lego was for children???

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    I glued in the first of the rear struts and then couldn’t resist seeing what the wings would look like on the fuselage!

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    I was about to take a second photo when I noticed that the wings weren’t square and so I abandoned the Lego and raided my wife’s chopping board collection and clamped the whole wing assembly to ensure that it would (hopefully) dry square overnight.

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    While all that was happening, I reconfigured my Lego jig so that I could begin work on the tail plane

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    Love it! Very creative, Wayne.

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    Looking good Wayne

    "He is wise who watches"

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    My wife slept in this morning (daily radiation therapy is really taking its toll!) so I really got a crack along - tail plane structure well under way and the forest of struts finished with not naughty word - yay!

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    I had to think and ponder long and hard before tackling the struts as the assembly instructions are as vague as any other kit from this era. For anyone else as mad as me, here’s how I tackled them:

    At step 2 of the instructions; strut 26 and strut 27 all in a jig (see my posts above for my Lego jig); wait for an hour or two for the glue to set then onto step 3.

    At step 3; struts 29 and 30; check alignment and let dry overnight.

    Now step 4, the biggy! Glue the struts in this order so that you aren’t reaching around and through struts while trying to align and glue the next one. My recommendation is 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 31, 32. As you place struts 33 to 38 make sure you are checking fore and aft alignment of individual struts as you go. Then take a well earned break for tea or coffee or …

    You can then trial fit the wing assembly to the fuselage and…

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    Next step: glue the front upper decking in place, clamp it to set and then filler into all the niggling gaps still remaining.

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    Then, after letting the filler dry and then smoothing it, will be to sort out the rear beam gun mountings and glue the wings, rear upper decking. After that I’ll be on the last lap of construction!
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    Everyone likes a nice smooth nose:

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    But that is a nasty step where the rear decking joins the rear fuselage!

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    All the major construction is now finished:

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    All that is left now is a list of minor things:

    1.Fabricate a tail skid
    2.Paint up the engines and propellers (to be fitted after painting and decalling)
    3.Paint crew and guns, again to be fitted later
    4.Paint wheels, again to be fitted later
    5.Fit mounting peg

    Then I have to think about a base, statistics, crew management cockpit and dream up a manoeuvre deck. Oh, and dream up a name!
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    Nice job Wayne. Coming together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles downunder View Post
    ... I have to think about a base, statistics, crew management cockpit and dream up a manoeuvre deck. Oh, and dream up a name!
    Starting to look like a beefed up Vickers Virginia X heavy bomber which has a similar tail but with a rear gunner out the back - creation of which might be worth considering.. Take a look at the link for flying footage - https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...lking-Pictures
    As to names you'll have to take a punt, or, name it the HP O/MG !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Dave, that movie was a great find! I love the instructor parachuting off the wing!

    I thought about a rear gunner in the tail but decided to leave that for my second build - I have a second kit waiting in the wings.

    Love the name suggestion!

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    Thought you'd enjoy that footage - fuel to the fire !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Thought you'd enjoy that footage - fuel to the fire !
    There was a snippet of music very near the end that sounded a bit ‘Star Wars-ish’!

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    I was doing the final cleanup prior to painting and I noticed one strut that obviously moved - damn! The big question now is do I try and relocate it or just leave it??

    Spot the strut…

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    The eagle-eyed will notice the remnants of the slot on the belly for the original Airfix stand - those were the days!

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    You're never going to be bored, are you? Great work.

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    I would try to fill in the hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    I would try to fill in the hole.
    Yep, I could do that. I'd have to do it carefully so that cleanup didn't become an issue though.

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    Phew, dodged a bullet! I managed to detach the strut where it touched the engine nacelle after treating it with a dab of Tamiya extra thin quick setting, carefully move it to the correct location, clamp it and reglue it. Sometimes the quick set trick works and sometimes it doesn’t!

    I’ll leave it to set overnight, give the model a good rinse and scrub then, after drying it off with a hair dryer (set on cold!), it’s off to the paint booth.

    Update: checked it this morning and all is good! Woo hoo!
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    First excursion to the paint booth. I didn’t realise how much surface area this thing has!!

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    It'll look the business when it's done

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Base coat now done to my satisfaction and so the next step will be painting struts, spray a clear coat and then decals.

    After that I’ll glue the engines, paint the crew then dull coat the model - inching my way to the finish line!

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    Coming along nicely, Wayne. Gonna be an impressive beast

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