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    I've picked up a few more WWII planes. One of them is a Nakajima B6N2. I was looking for the stats for this plane, plus any Cards that may be available. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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    I couldn't find the B6N2 in the Unofficial aircraft list, nor could I find stats for the late war Focke-Wulf Ta-152. I'll begin a different thread for the Ta-152.

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    Karl, could you, please, add the B6N2 to your list of plane stats requests for whenever you have the time?

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    Performance

    Maximum speed: 482 km/h (300 mph, 260 kn) at 4,900 m (16,076 ft)
    Cruise speed: 333 km/h (207 mph, 180 kn) at 5,500 m (18,045 ft)
    Range: 1,746 km (1,085 mi, 943 nmi)
    Ferry range: 3,045 km (1,892 mi, 1,644 nmi)
    Service ceiling: 9,040 m (29,660 ft)
    Time to altitude: 5,000 m (16,404 ft) in 10 minutes 24 seconds
    Wing loading: 139.8 kg/m2 (28.6 lb/sq ft)
    Power/mass: 0.2652 kW/kg (0.1613 hp/lb)
    Armament
    Guns: 1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 92 machine gun in rear cockpit and 1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 92 firing through ventral tunnel
    Bombs: 1 × 800 kg torpedo or 800 kg (1,760 lb) of bombs (1 x 800 kg or 500 kg, or 2 × 250 kg)

    Is there something that filters out Wikipedia links here?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_B6N
    Last edited by Diamondback; 06-10-2021 at 11:48.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abovetheclouds View Post
    Karl, could you, please, add the B6N2 to your list of plane stats requests for whenever you have the time?
    On the list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Is there something that filters out Wikipedia links here?
    Not that I've ever noticed.

    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    I wonder if something might be made out of this...
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    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Mike, I hope these pics help.

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    The pictures are a great help.
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    Now for units/crews...

    PS: 131 Kōkūtai (Naval Air Group) 'Fuyō Butai' ("Mount Fuji")?
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 06-11-2021 at 17:42.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Looks great, and 131 Kokutai sounds good.

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    Awaiting official approval:
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    [Edit: Maneuver Deck corrected to new Unofficial recommendation]

    Also, because of the rear gunner controlling the dorsal and ventral guns, we probably need a crew management card?
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 06-29-2022 at 11:43.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Should it be on a Heavy Fighter Base like it's predecessor, the B5N2? You made some excellent looking B5N2 Kates on HF base cards. But, I am definitely not any kind of expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abovetheclouds View Post
    Should it be on a Heavy Fighter Base like it's predecessor, the B5N2? You made some excellent looking B5N2 Kates on HF base cards. But, I am definitely not any kind of expert.
    Just under the 15m wingspan break, so it is a fighter base. (14.894m)
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Just under the 15m wingspan break, so it is a fighter base. (14.894m)
    Karl
    Thank you. I withdraw the question. It's time to prepare an I* deck, and get Jill in the air. Now, I await an answer to Mike's question of whether we need a crew management card.

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    Hmmm...

    You could put a Crew "Presence Marker" on the plane card, over the active arc? Just a thought.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Or use this:

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    [Edit: Adjusted crew position indicator line to the octagon on the plane.]
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 06-30-2022 at 08:58.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Yep! Downloaded, printed, sleeved, and ready to go. Thanks again, Mike and Karl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abovetheclouds View Post
    Yep! Downloaded, printed, sleeved, and ready to go. Thanks again, Mike and Karl.
    Hmmm... Not yet approved?

    Damage and Maneuver deck are just my guess. The card size was another guess, but based on that 50' dividing line. I thought the Heavy Fighter might be better, as I could see the Management Card coming...
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Yea, I know. I've been through the reprints before after I've jumped the gun. I was excited for the "I*" deck choice, since I had extra "I" decks from the "Fire from the Sky" set. Looking forward (patiently) to the committee's official decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abovetheclouds View Post
    Yea, I know. I've been through the reprints before after I've jumped the gun. I was excited for the "I*" deck choice, since I had extra "I" decks from the "Fire from the Sky" set. Looking forward (patiently) to the committee's official decision.
    I'm not conversant enough with things like self-sealing fuel tanks, armor, etc... that will change the way Damage Points are assigned, as well as the speeds different planes fly and wing loading that determine maneuvrability. So, there could be other changes to the card. It might be bang-on, but that would be just a lucky SWAG on my part.
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 06-13-2021 at 17:35.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Nakajima B6N Tenzan (Jill) (the N1 and N2 come out the same):

    Deck: K(7); Damage: 18; Ceiling: 10; Climb: 6; Guns: na / A/A plus A/A ventral gun (rear arc lower only); Fighter base.

    Note: I'm using the new system for deck modifying: the (7) indicates that the K deck will only use it's regular set of SSs (deleting the fast-only set), as well as making them not-difficult.
    New deck modifying system: https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...430#post557430
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Mike, when you are able to find the time, would you please, update the card with Karl's updated stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Nakajima B6N Tenzan (Jill) (the N1 and N2 come out the same):

    Deck: K(7); Damage: 18; Ceiling: 10; Climb: 6; Guns: na / A/A plus A/A ventral gun (rear arc lower only); Fighter base.

    Note: I'm using the new system for deck modifying: the (7) indicates that the K deck will only use it's regular set of SSs (deleting the fast-only set), as well as making them not-difficult.
    New deck modifying system: https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...430#post557430
    Karl
    Card above updated.

    Not getting subscription notification emails does affect turn-around time. Sorry for the delay.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Thanks Mike! Your updated card looks a heckuva lot better than my original card with all of the stats written over with a marker.



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