Can the Phoenix D. I resp. any plane with the X-Deck execute an Overdive with the short dive as the second maneuver in the sequence?
Can the Phoenix D. I resp. any plane with the X-Deck execute an Overdive with the short dive as the second maneuver in the sequence?
Hm, good question. When the rules were originally written, the X-Deck and the concept of a short dive weren't envisioned. Personally, I would take the concept of diving to put out the flames to its logical conclusion, and say yes. But that's just one lizard's opinion.
Last edited by zenlizard; 03-08-2021 at 04:49.
Overdive is a stall & a dive followed by a straight so I'd have said a Phoenix's shorter dive card followed by a straight achieves the objective.
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Sounds reasonable to me.
What about using the short straight after the short dive?
It has come up before:
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...-a-Phoenix-D-I
Don't think anyone ran this past Andrea but this would give you overdive options in the Phoenix.
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Might need to have Andrea weigh in on this.
I agree with Chris that maybe the non-steep stall shouldn't be used at the end of an over-dive as it is not technically a straight.
The two dive cards I don't see being used back to back in WGF. WGS has dive bombers that can play more than one dive in a row but there is no option in WGF rules for this. The Phoenix should have had a special rule when it was released if this is allowed.
Can the non-steep straight (10 card) of the x deck be used as the first straight in an Immelmann move?
Here is the previous thread https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...hlight=Phoenix
Already linked Dave
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Can the non-steep stall be used for the engine-damage rule?
I would say no - it's not a "stall".
The Fokker D.VII has the same < one "stall" one "short ahead" > card pair in its deck - it must play the "stall" (with the steep symbol) if it has engine damage.
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For the Fokker D.VII it's the "hang on the prop" ability.
With no "steep" symbol on the "short ahead" card, you can play "steep Short Turn Right", then "short ahead", then "steep Short Turn Left" as a three card sequence.
The D.VII will move a very short distance compared to all other planes, and can pour bullets into a target as that plane passes it.
D.VIIs were reported by their opponents to be able to "hang on the prop", nose upward, firing streams of bullets into target planes without stalling and falling away. I don't know of any other aircraft reported to have been able to do this.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
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