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Thread: Late War : FW.190D / Bf.109K vs P.47 Thunderbolt / Spitfire Mk.IX

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    Default Late War : FW.190D / Bf.109K vs P.47 Thunderbolt / Spitfire Mk.IX

    A fight at the end of WW2 on western front : a Messerschmitt Bf.109K and a Focke-Wulf FW.190 D (played by Goago) facing a Spitfire Mk.IX and a Thunderbolt P.47 (played by Monse).
    Advanced rules for altitude and speed (speed markers : high, low, 2 neutral)

    1) The FW.190 and the Spitfire fire at each other :




    2-3) German planes fly side by side to increase their fire power.
    The Spitfire makes a descent and a tight turns, while the P.47 performs a Split-S :






    4-5-6) The Spitfire, at a lower altitude level, fires at the Bf.109 during three consecutive turns (aim bonus : additional A damage tokens) :








    7) German planes perform a Split-S to avoid exiting the game area and both fire at the Spitfire which has the FW.190 in sight.
    Damages are quite low for the English plane, despite the high number of damage tokens :




    8) Allied planes turn back and the P.47 makes a powerful 8 points shot at the FW.190 :




    9) The FW.190 makes a clever wide sideslip to avoid Spitfire fire arc.
    Another fatal 6 points shot from P.47 which destroys the Bf.109 :




    10) The FW.190 inflicts 8 damage points to the P.47 thanks to an effective long range shot but it is shot down by the Spitfire.
    Total victory for the allied. The third reich is about to collapse ... :




    A very intense game with with a frequent use of the low speed to perform tight maneuvers.
    For this reason, Split-S were used rather than Immelmann (which must begin with a high speed straight).
    Last edited by monse; 11-26-2020 at 22:57.

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    Another interesting AAR, monse.

    I have yet to get my late war planes to the table.

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    Nice action!

    Interesting to see WW2 minis executing turns, instead of just reversals.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Like to see a D-Day dogfight

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
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    Interesting to see WW2 minis executing turns, instead of just reversals.
    Bingo! The main disadvantage of WGS compared to WGF.

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    Very nice game.

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    Sometimes a curve can make the difference.

    Allies had the better timing.

    Nice little AAR.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    Like to see a D-Day dogfight
    Actually, this game should be considered as a late 1944 - early 1945 dogfight, despite the invasion black and white stripes on the allied planes (anyway, Ares has not produced US P.47 without these stripes).

    Indeed, deliveries of Bf.109K began in October 1944, and by the end of January 1945 314 K-4s were listed on hand with first line Luftwaffe units.
    http://www.aresgames.eu/16778

    The German factories produced a total of 1,805 FW.190D-9, starting in August 1944.
    https://www.aresgames.eu/9974

    Moreover, Spitfire Mk IX remained in service until the end of the war, even after the appearance of the Griffon powered Mk XIV.
    https://www.aresgames.eu/10145

    In January 1945, a mix of razorback and bubbletop P-47D were still used by the 56th fighter group (source : Osprey P-47 Thunderbolt Aces of the Eight Air Force, page 81).

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    Ah, you are right with Messerschmitts! And I see there are not on my Overview List for D-Day. Very nice catch

    I read those stripes were removed until the end of 1944, so late 1944 is a complete match. Well done, Monse

    PS: I read British and Aussies used them even in Korea.

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    Nice AAR Monse, well done
    ... and REP worthy .... REP-guns empty ....

    cheers,
    Guus
    Last edited by Aardvark1430; 12-17-2020 at 07:49.
    "zet 'm op ... witte muizen !" (strijdkreet van 1e JaVa, Luchtvaart Afdeling, Nederland 1940)
    "let's go get them ... white mice !" (battlecry of the 1st Fighter Group, Army Air Force, Netherlands 1940)

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    Very nice battle ! " Rep" ok



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