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    Hi all, it's been along time since I last posted here and sad to say I dont really get time for as much gaming these days and a lack of players has led me to consider selling my Wings of War collection.

    Before I list them on e-bay (which id prefer not to if possible)I wondered if you could give me some advice on prices and whether it's worth listing here first or maybe a Facebook group etc

    I have all the contents (ie counters, card decks, rulers, boards etc)of:

    Wings of War: Famous Aces, Watch Your Back, Burning Drachens, Flight of the Giants (but not the actual boxes)

    The Booster Packs: Recon Patrol, Top Fighters, Immelmann

    The following Planes:

    Albatross DVa (x3)(one is Udet not sure onthe other two as yet) (one seems to be missing its flight base - but see below i have some spares)
    RAF Re8 (Longton/Carson)
    Sopwith Camel (Barker)
    Airco DH2(Hawker)
    Fokker EIII (Immelmann)
    De Havilland DH4 (Atkey)
    Fokker D VII (Udet)
    RAF SE5a (Bishop)
    Fokker DR1 (x2) (Kempf & Von Richthofen - the older model with the red under carriage)
    SPAD XIII (Rickenbacker)
    LFG Roland C2 (Seibert)
    Nieuport 16(de Guibert)
    Albatross DIII (Brumoski)
    UFAG C1( Luftfahrtruppen 2)
    Goth GV (Von Korff) still in box
    German(yellow) Balloon



    (I have all the relevant card decks for all the above planes)

    plus a carry case with cut to shape foam inserts that holds everything but the bomber and balloon, a Tritex Sopwith Camel(part built) some transfers, Peter Pig pilots and some painted 6mm Ground targets(trenches, truck,etc) and some laser cut clear plastic flight stands

    I can post pics or provide more details if necessary, not sure if the various paint schemes make any difference, but i can list them if it helps.

    Ideally I would sell it all as one, but would consider breaking it up if you guys think it would sell quicker/easier, thanks in advance for any advice.
    Last edited by Happy; 05-16-2020 at 03:43. Reason: updating info

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    You could go any way with this one. You have some planes that a lot of people are looking for. I would list the models by plane type. The balloon by itself. The case with all the Peter Pig and such in a listing. Then make a listing with all the rule box sets. That is what I would do.

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    Thanks for the advice, any ideas on suggested asking prices? (im not expecting silly e-bay prices, I'd rather it went to a member of the community or if anyone has any GW Man O War stuff i'd be happy to trade).

    I have edited the OP with the names of the planes I can ID, looking at Ares' site I cant seem to locate half my planes is there an online catalogue of all models anywhere?

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    Download this from the files Chris - it's not bang up to date but will likely have your models as it includes Nexus WoW not just Ares. Has images & numbers.
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/do...do=file&id=723

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Thanks Dave, that's very useful, and i have updated the OP with the relevant names, still struggling with two Albatross DVa's(I think) one has green/purple wings, green tail, red/brown fuselage with a large with flower, the other predominately red with brown and two different shades of green(one is a sickly puce like green) on the wings, any clues?

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    these are the two mystery planes that I cant seem to ID

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    WGF001B Albatros D.Va Paul Baumer, Jasta 5. The one on the right is a repaint. I bet some of the more knowledgeable members will know shortly.

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    Thanks Jeff, and yes now i think about it the one on the right might not even be an official model (the engine appears to be slightly different than the other two DVa's), hence its missing base plate, though i genuinely cannot remember where i got it from

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    Hello Chris. Sorry to hear you're not playing anymore. Let me/us what you decide, I'm interested in 3/4 models if you decide to sell separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    these are the two mystery planes that I cant seem to ID

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    The one on the right looks like the F-Toy Alb D.III in the scheme of MvR Chris.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Thats it Dave! Many thanks

    I've been looking around e-bay but cant seem to find many of my planes to compare with and then the ones I have vary wildly from £14 -£ stupid(as a collector of GW's OOP specialist games stuff, i hate ebay - buy it now- stupid inflated prices) but all those i have seen are boxed, mine are not(apart from the Gotha), so its hard to get an idea, and whilst im not grasping for every last penny nor do i want to give them away, so if i was to say £250 for everything would this be unreasonable and overpriced or am i giving it away at that price?

    Or would i be better off selling certain sought after items separately (no idea if any of the above are particularly sought after, as i am completely out of touch with the WOW hobby ) I would for ease just ask for offers on here but i dont think that is allowed, so any price guidance is greatly appreciated as i'd like to get them posted up here ASAP

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    I'd say £250 is a reasonable ask to shift the lot quickly. I dare say you'd get more by breaking it down but then you may be left with some that will just hang about and not make much. I think it's generous of you to offer it to the forum community.
    Last edited by flash; 05-16-2020 at 10:19.

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    If you want to get rid quickly one big lot. If you want to maximize your money, individual listings. I am interested in several as well. I am sure there are many members here interested. I am sure if you want to sell here for a set price you would have no problem reducing your inventory. I am interested in buying your peter pilots right now. I cannot find any peter pig in the USA.

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    You'd certainly get more money selling them individually, but packaging them up without their boxes and posting them off to lots of different buyers would be a lot of hassle!
    Plus, as Dave said, you'd probably be left with a handful of "peg queens" that won't shift, except for peanuts.

    Honestly, some of your rarer, more desirable planes would sell for a bit more individually, but don't trust the "Buy It Now" prices on ebay.
    Those planes listed there, at those inflated prices, have been there for a long time, and are not selling at all!
    I trawl ebay every day, often 2 or 3 times a day
    Some of the "Buy It Now" planes have been there for over a year! And are still there!
    There's a balloon set offered at a starting price of £140, just starting its EIGHTH time around, with no reduction in the starting price...............it will be there for ever; no one will ever pay that!

    If you're prepared to wait a bit, you might get more than £250 for a job lot sale, but for a quick sale I think £250 is very reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camelbeagle View Post
    ... I cannot find any peter pig in the USA.
    I'm not surprised - he's a small enterprise but you might be able to order direct Dan. https://peterpig.co.uk/
    Bottom of the Heads page https://peterpig.co.uk/heads.html under Not Heads !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    I only play with cards and I would LOVE to buy them if you don't want them. I have tried to expand my deck but it is really hard for me due to limited supply. I have never gotten into miniatures so I am probably not your best customer for those but I would be more than happy to pay a fine price for the cards.

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    Thanks for all the advice, i will make a start on sorting all the decks out as they've gotten a little muddled up, and make a start on some pics, couple more quick questions, i assume the planes should be sold with the relevant manoeuvre decks? and flight pegs - how many pegs should there for each?

    Oh and @ FancyPilot, yes i would probably sell the booster decks(assuming you mean these) separately from the miniature side of things. Once i have a full inventory i'll get back to you.

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    The planes should Definitely have their complete manoeuvre deck and base! They would be worth quite a bit less without them.
    They were sold with 4 pegs each, but most players manage to lose them over time - a minimum of three would not be criticised, and reprint bags of 50 pegs are produced every now and then so players can replace losses.

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    Thanks Tim, think I have all the pegs and deffo the bases(apart from the F-Toy which i have Litko ones for)

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    Sorry to be a pain, but whilst organising the various decks, i see the various codes AP, CF, P, etc is there a list of these somewhere as they dont necessary match the box sets/boosters

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    AP = airplane pack ; the cards came in a single-plane box

    FA = Famous Aces
    WB = Watch Your Back
    BD = Burning Drachens
    FG = Flight of the Giants

    CF = Crossfire ; the cards came from that Booster
    RP = Recon Patrol ; the cards came from that Booster
    TF = Top Fighters ; the cards came from that Booster
    DF - Dogfight ; the cards came from that Booster

    Don't recognize P...............

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    Also the BB cards would be for Balloon Busters which would include the Nieuport 16, as well as, the yellow balloon.

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    Thanks again, all sorted now i think: this is my list pics to follow:

    General Stuff:

    12 Player Mats
    6 Mini Player mats
    6 Range Rulers
    4 Altitude Cards
    7 Blank manuever cards
    Promotional Airplane Cards No's: 1-9
    Wings of Glory rulebook
    Counters from all the sets listed below
    a few Pilot Record sheets

    Box sets(no actual boxes included):

    Famous Aces:

    1 "A" damage deck
    manuever decks: A, B, C, & D
    22 Airplane cards
    1 Target Card
    rules booklet

    Watch Your Back:

    B Damage Deck
    manuever decks: E, F, G, & H
    24 Airplane cards
    2 Target Cards
    Rule booklet

    Burning Drachens:

    "A" damage deck
    "C" damage deck
    "D" damage deck
    maneuver decks: I & J
    16 Airplane cards
    4 double-sided Balloon cardboard piece
    7 Ground Target Cards
    Altitude Cards for decks: A-J
    Rulebook

    Balloon Busters:

    1 Damage Deck "D"
    3 Airplane cards
    3 machine-guns/targets cards.
    1 double-sided Balloon cardboard piece
    Rulebook

    Flight of Giants:

    1 "B" damage deck
    manuever decks: XB, XC, 2x XA, 2x XD
    12 bombs cards
    6 target cards
    8 double sided airplane damage tracking cards
    8 double sided Airplane cards
    Rules booklet

    Boosters:


    Hit & Run:

    maneuver decks: B and Q
    31 Airplane cards

    Immelmann:

    maneuver decks: 2x P and a G.
    18 Airplane cards

    Recon Patrol:

    maneuver decks: D and K.
    Target/trench card
    26 Airplane cards

    Top Fighters:

    maneuver decks: L and M.
    19 Airplane cards

    Dog Fight:

    maneuver decks: N and O
    26 Airplane cards

    Crossfire:

    maneuver decks: K and 2x S
    18 Airplane cards

    Planes:

    All include, card, base, 4 flight pegs and relevant maneuver deck unless stated
    Albatross DVa ( Udet)
    Albatross DVa (Baumer)
    RAF Re8 (Longton/Carson)
    Sopwith Camel (Barker)
    Airco DH2(Hawker)
    Fokker EIII (Immelmann)
    De Havilland DH4 (Atkey)
    Fokker D VII (Udet)
    RAF SE5a (Bishop)
    Fokker DR1 (x2) (Kempf)
    Fokker DR1 (Von Richthofen) - 1 flight peg missing
    SPAD XIII (Rickenbacker) - 1 flight peg missing
    LFG Roland C2 (Seibert)
    Nieuport 16(de Guibert) - 1 flight peg missing
    Albatross DIII (Brumoski)
    UFAG C1( Luftfahrtruppen 2)
    Goth GV (Von Korff) still in box - un-punched counters and still sealed Deck XD
    German??(Yellow) Balloon with transfers and stand/pegs

    Un- official Stuff:

    1 (part built) Tritex Sopwith Camel
    1 F-Toy Albatross DVa - Von Richthofen
    2 metal painted trench sections
    4 metal painted MG positions
    1 metal painted AA Truck
    x25 Peter Pig - Pilots/Co-Pilots
    9 Litko flight bases (Single Seaters)
    6 Litko flight bases (Two Seaters)
    12 Litko Flight pegs

    Extras:
    KR Multicase (Card) with 6 cut to shape inserts that hold 18 Fighters, 6 Two Seaters, and 24 Maneuver Decks plus a further double insert that holds the Player Boards, Range Rulers, Tokens and 6 more card decks

    Hows that looking, clear enough?

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    P cards were the Promo cards included in the different FA, and WB boxes and Booster packs. Example: P-2 WB is the Promo Card that came with the WB box

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    And a fine collection it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    I'm not surprised - he's a small enterprise but you might be able to order direct Dan. https://peterpig.co.uk/
    Bottom of the Heads page https://peterpig.co.uk/heads.html under Not Heads !
    I was able to order Peter Pig pilot heads with no trouble. International postage applies. Hardest part was figuring out what to order.

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    Peter Pig in the USA is only sold through Brookhurst Hobbies out of California as far as I know.

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    I'd group Balloon Busters; the Yellow Balloon with transfers and stand/pegs; Nieuport 16(de Guibert) together as they are the constituent parts of a set Chris.
    I'd also refer to player mats as cockpits - WoW & WoG - rather than mats. Otherwise looks good to go, just stick a price on it and go !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Update: I have been offered considerable amount more than the £250 mentioned above by a UK based buyer willing to take the lot, so sorry to say i am probably going to go down that route

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    Sorry to see you let go of your collection, but happy for you that you were able to sell it all at once for an acceptable price. Enjoy your Warhammer time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    Update: I have been offered considerable amount more than the £250 mentioned above by a UK based buyer willing to take the lot, so sorry to say i am probably going to go down that route
    That's a result Chris !

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    Good news (not that a player is selling his kit, but that he's getting a decent price for it all).

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    good for you Chris. Glad you've got it sorted in one go.

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    Hello. I am sorry to say that unfortunately a few things have happened with work that has now cut my gaming budget to nothing. Sorry I must recind my offer.



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