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    Spotted this. If you have access to Amazon Prime, there is a two part series called The Aces War. First one is 1916-1916
    Second one covers 1917 - 1918. It’s a french series so the actors are all subtitled but the voice over/narration is in English. It’s a mix of live actors, CGI and original footage. If your knowledge of the air war and the aces is pretty good you won’t learn anything new but it is an enjoyable and well put together watch. There is more of. French focus but that makes a nice change. The CGI dogfights aren’t bad either. Well worth investing a couple of hours in. If you are new to this subject then it’s a pretty good introduction.

    Either way, well worth a look.

    Aces featured, Boelke, Guynemer, Fonk, Von Richthofen, Udet and Mannock. Roland Garros also features.

    Couple of niggling errors, Mannock’s victory total stated at 73 instead of 61 for one and the Fokker DR1 is a bit overplayed as Richthofen’s mount rather than the Albatross but still watchable though.
    Last edited by Hedeby; 02-19-2020 at 15:55.

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    Thanks for the Heads up Chris.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Thank you for telling us about this documentary, Chris. Maybe it is a pity that I cancelled my Amazon Prime membership.

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    It is not bad viewing, there are a few uniform errors, RFC officers with Corporal stripes and a medical officer with WW2 era rank slides, other than that l thought the dogfight scenes were very good.

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    Thanks Chris - shall give them a whirl very soon

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    Has been flagged up before - sounds like it's finally being delivered - here's a teaser:
    https://vimeo.com/236303594

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Has been flagged up before - sounds like it's finally being delivered - here's a teaser:
    https://vimeo.com/236303594

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Has been flagged up before - sounds like it's finally being delivered - here's a teaser:
    https://vimeo.com/236303594
    Are you saying it's a repeat of are you repeating yourself?

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    Deja vu !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Looks the the duplication fairy is back in business... I remember her less than welcome efforts whilst compiling the 100 years ago thread

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    A comment posted one year ago in a subject about this documentary.
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...499#post488499

    Very interesting documentary with many planes and great combat movies sequences :
    part 1 : Blériot XI, Albatros B, Morane-Saulnier Parasol, Caudron G3, Fokker D.II, Farman, Nieuport 11, Albatros D.II, Airco D.H.2
    part 2 : Spad XIII, RAF SE5, Fokker Dr.I, Albatros C.III
    And Parseval-Sigsfeld type balloon.

    But the the aviation specialists of the Aerodrome may notice 4 big mistakes and a few itching details.

    Part 1
    - 33 minutes 30 seconds. The comment announces that the Fokker D.II is the first machine gun synchronised plane. 18 March 1916.
    Actually the Fokker E.I is the first MG synchronised plane and its first victory took place on July 1915.

    About introduction of the Fokker D.II, there are different opinions :
    - according to Norman Franks, (one of the historical specialists in this documentary) in his book « Above the lines » (published in 1993), Udet had his first victory with a Fokker D.II on March 18 1916 , as in the documentary.
    - according to a 2012 Osprey, Fokker D.I prototype is introduced in June 1916.
    And the first biplane single seater on western front is the Halberstadt D.II in June1916.
    (Albatros D.I - D.II / page 10-11 / author James Miller / Osprey Publishing 2012).
    So the Fokker D.I could not take part to combat in March 1916.
    Moreover a new plane was usually not given to a new pilot like Udet but to an Ace like Boelcke in 1916.
    http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=56707


    - 42 minutes 10 secondes - 28 October 1916 -
    At this time, only Albatros D.I and D.II versions are engaged, the D.III will arrive in December 1916.
    But the pictures show Albatros D.II (edge of wings are rectangular and both wings have equal surface) with V interstruts instead of parallel interstruts.
    It is a mix of both versions D.II and D.III that is a pure mistake.
    The D.III has V interstruts and a smaller surface low wing and non straight edge wing.

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    Other little details :
    - Levasseur plane of French ace Nungesser is shown during a comment about the victories of this pilot in 1916 (but this plane nicknamed L’Oiseau Blanc was piloted by Nungesser and Coli during their attempt to cross Atlantic Ocean in 1927) .
    - English Sopwith Camel are shown during a comment about French squadrons.
    - a plane with German 1918 Balkennkreuz markings is shown during a comment about German aviation in 1916.


    Part 2
    Biggest mistakes :
    - During à discussion between Udet and Goering in September 1918, Udet declares «*he had his 61 and 62 victories with the brand new Albatros D.III*».
    Even the Albatros D.V has been considered obsolete for many months at this time and the Fokker D.VII is the best fighter at the end of the war.

    Other details :
    - Parseval-Sigsfeld type balloons are the only type shown in the documentary while the Caquot type balloon has been preferred and used by both camps since 1916-1917.
    - during a comment about Aces and their representation by press during the war, a magazine with Nungesser and Coli on board their plane in 1927 before crossing the Atlantic, is shown with other War time newspapers.

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    :..
    Last edited by monse; 03-05-2020 at 04:41.

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    Wow, now that is a detailed critique. Well done that man...

    Never Knowingly Undergunned !!

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    Wait till you see the Brexit agreement.


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    lol, please NO

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