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    Serial 3983 (Flight Commander Kenneth Stevens Savory in 'Blue Bird' and Serial 3982 (Flight Sub-Lieutenant William Vazie Simons) of 2 Wing Royal Naval Air Service.

    Despite the French insignia, 'Blue Bird' is British. The roundels on the bottom wing are British.

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    Last edited by ShadowDragon; 02-09-2020 at 05:33.

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    Beautiful. Thanks for posting.

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    Oh wow, they are nice, well done.

    Never Knowingly Undergunned !!

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    The strange things you find out when searching out historical info. When I posted I couldn't remember the source of the info that Serial 3982 was flown by a WV Simons. Yesterday I stumbled across the source which was the Wings Palette site:

    http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww1/f/112/9/0#2

    I don't know how I missed that considering there's only 4 British Nieuport 11 listed. Okay, it's not the most reliable site for that information; plus I had my doubts when I had found this record on a "Fitter Staff Serjeant William Vazil Langdalf Simons":

    https://colstonscommemoration.wordpr...azil-langdalf/

    But then yesterday I found this record, which I had seen before, on a Flight Sub-Lieutenant William Vazie Simons:

    https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm....estory/7699415

    According the military record (see the link in the 'Evidence' - you will have to read around the watermarks) he was a good pilot but "slack" at other duties. Seems like he'd fit quite nicely.

    It doesn't seem that he was with 2 Wing until late 1917 but he did get his flight qualifications in May 1916, so he could very well have flown 3982.

    ETA: Link to article in British at War in the Air 1914-1918 with an article that includes WV Simons:

    https://airwar19141918.wordpress.com...-vazie-simons/
    Last edited by ShadowDragon; 02-09-2020 at 08:01.

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    While I'm at it here are some links to stuff about Kenneth Stevens Savory:

    Notice the London Gazette, 22 June 1916, with regards to recognition, along with Flight Sub-Lieutenant Richard ****inson, for a night time bombing of "Constantinople" on night of 14-15 April:

    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/.../6212/data.pdf

    A bit more on the same raid:

    From Google Books, Voices in Flight: Escaping Soldiers and Airmen of World War I:

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=LYQ...20rnas&f=false

    from Middle East Institute site:

    http://mideasti.blogspot.com/2016/04...r-raid-on.html

    Notice of DSO to a, now Squadron Commander, KS Savory, in the London Gazette, 26 August 1917:

    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/.../8988/data.pdf

    Awarded flight certificate, as a Flight Sub-Lieutenant, on 29 Sep 1914

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...o_Club_in_1914

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    Well that’s today’s bedtime reading sorted. Thanks Paul

    Never Knowingly Undergunned !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedeby View Post
    Well that’s today’s bedtime reading sorted. Thanks Paul
    Quiz tomorrow, Chris.



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