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    There are alot planes that have (slightly) different colour schemes.

    We had a (small) threat for this:

    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...mes-Nexus-Ares

    Perhaps we could make a "sticky" one and collect the differences and prove them by photo compares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMad17 View Post
    This is a very helpful thread!

    would there be any way to tell the difference between a 2013 Series 1A SPAD XIII Rickenbacker and a 2019 1B reprint of it when it's still in the package?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    The original 2007 Nexus ones came in blue boxes.
    The 1st reprint by ARES came in the green/brown box with the hanging tab part of the box. This box has the 2012 date on it.
    The latest ARES reprint is in the green/brown box with the 2011/2018 date on it.

    Good evening, I'm sorry, but I don't have Rickenbacker's Spad XIII to inform you, but a few others, taking them out of their boxes and looking closely a Spad XIII Baracca Wings of War Nexus 2007 model and the Spad XIII Madon Wings of Glory Ares 2012.

    Outside the decoration, we will find these same differences on the three Spad of Rickenbacker

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    We can see that the wings are of different dimensions from one model to another


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    The tips of the wings are more rounded



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    Ares kept the "metallic" fuselage of the 1st Nexus series and corrected the wingspan for his first Wings of Glory series


    it seems to have been reinforced (as on the P 47 of Morhle, see above)


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    I never took the measurements of the Spad XIII, but monse told me that it did not have the right dimensions, it was rather on a 1/160 scale than 1/144 unlike the Spad VII rather very successful , and I don't know what last series are going to be like ?
    But i look forward to my Spad XIII Chavannes ordered from which is coming soon from the USA maybe for the Bastille Day (July 14) !
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    Thanks all!

    @Bruno, I'd be interested to see pictures of the Chavannes one when it arrives!

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    I have to admit. I like the detail of the wheels on the Wings of War planes a lot better than the poor tire decals they have used on the recent ones.

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    And at the wow Planes the Propeller and the wheels are rotatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfgard View Post
    And at the wow Planes the Propeller and the wheels are rotatable.
    I think movable props ended at Series 2 or 3, definitely before 4 though.
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    Does anyone have real pictures of both versions of the Kempf Dr.I they could post side by side? Looking at the Marketing pictures only helps so much...

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMad17 View Post
    Does anyone have real pictures of both versions of the Kempf Dr.I they could post side by side? Looking at the Marketing pictures only helps so much...

    Thanks!
    Here are 4 photos of the two. Original on the left, latest version on the right. The new version has considerably thicker wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Here are 4 photos of the two. Original on the left, latest version on the right. The new version has considerably thicker wings.
    What exactly is the reason for such ugly thick wings? Production costs?
    I have no WGF collection yet. Ordered and received just one plane recently: The SE5a-Dallas with its delicate thin wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMad17 View Post
    Thanks all!

    @Bruno, I'd be interested to see pictures of the Chavannes one when it arrives!
    Hi Max

    I received it today here are some photos :

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    I put aside the Spad XIII Coadou 2012 W.O.G Ares and the Fonck Wings of WAR 2008

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    Oooo, your Chavennes is really nice. Unfortunately the one I have came with the spider decal all messed up. I may have to get another if I can see it first.

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    Thanks Peter, very helpful!

    @Bruno, that does look nice, much better than I expected based on the marketing photos.

    Does anyone have a comparison between the original WoW Fonck and the new WOG one?

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    I have both the original and the recent release. The recent release is a mess compared to the original. The wings on my came detached. The decals all wrinkled up. Cannot even tell that the stork on the side is a stork. I am thinking of scrapping of some of the decal, repair the spot with some paint, and put new decals of storks on it. I will try and get some pictures tomorrow.

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    Here are side by side of the Fonck SPAD XIII. Original on left, new on right.

    Are these different planes that he flew? Wing-top camo scheme is the same but different elsewhere. Colors have changed, especially the underside surfaces.
    Wing tips are shaped differently too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spad VII View Post
    Hello ,

    I too recently started playing Glory's wings, i was offered a small figurine of D.520 in 2010 that I had put on display next to the 1/72 and 1/48 models, it took a friend to convert me at the" play mat" only in 2018 !

    I just hope that my English and the translator will be correct to explain what I see on this subject :

    After a nice discussion on the subject "quality of miniatures in 2020 with " monse " and "ABS" during our last part, (as i was also project manager for a French die-casting company on a new aeronautical range 1/72 , 1/48 ) a study for a year :

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    I was curious to understand how these models Wings of War / Glory were made ?

    On the 1st WOW / WOG models, the fact that some of them were probably painted in the factory with an airbrush by hand, their rarity gives them today a certain value of collection and even if this basic paint is far from the quality of plastic airplane model : http://www.maquetland.com/v2/images_...ncaster-18.jpg


    Perfect "patina" is surely not the 1st goal sought by the brand either. There must be a compromise between a playful and historical aspect for the figurine which moves, sometimes being roughed up on the play mat, I suppose that a design study was carried out on its weight, the various materials for its manufacture, its maneuverability , its resistance, its base then the 3D study for the correct shapes of the device ... etc



    Photo :Wings of Glory Aerodrome


    With this revolutionary, playful conceptual miniature miniature, since its creation, we are far from the classic Wargame metal model : https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2918/...ecc2af19_z.jpg, enough heavy, unwieldy.

    Or that in plastic from various other aeronautical table games: https://twtrb.blogspot.com/2017/09/b...d-mustang.html (sometimes without propeller) ) which often are not realistic and fly away at the slightest gust of wind !



    Photo : Giants of the Sky You tube


    Example of a complete painting on an old Wings of War model the Dewoitine D.520 Thollon * Nexus 2009

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    The camouflage spots, the red diamond were most probably made with an airbrush cover:

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    On the P.47 D from Mohrle a Wings of Glory * Ares 2016 model

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    By enlarging we can clearly see an adhesive film which replaces the paint:

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    On the other hand this "macro" adhesive film allows a greater precision of reproduction on the decorations, logos and roundels of the devices which would not be possible in painting with the cache on this scale, it is also less expensive than a new painting on a reissue or a recent edition for the brand and the junction at the end of the wings is surely not "mechanically" allowed by the machine which therefore leaves the edges of a gray "plastic" color.


    So Nexus miniatures, Ares ? , a quality of form and "decoration" that would drop in 2020 ? paints or adhesive films ? :
    These two methods are good for figurines of play, they have their defects and their qualities, to acquire them will then depend on the tastes of each one and the use made of the plane (some undoubtedly expose them also in window) and for me blending them harmoniously by putting beautiful clear canopies and sometimes joints between the wings / airplane fuselage on some models would not be a bad thing in itself, but rather a good idea because in general (with a few exceptions), they are rather aesthetically good successful our little flying wonders on the table !




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    Ps : Please note to new players, if you no longer have the packaging and want to know quickly if your model is a Wings of War or a reissued Wings of Glory?
    Look on the base of the arc of circle if it is red it is a Wings of Glory model and if it is black a Wings of War model :

    Excellent report Bruno on the process of miniature production.

    "Its a fine line indeed between going out in a Blaze of Glory or having Crashed & Burnt!"
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    Peter,

    I have to say, I like the older version better. The new one is a bit too brownish for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    I was disappointed for those who had waited so long to get their hands on SE.5's to receive such poorly finished models.
    I have two SE5 and five SE5a (all Ares) and all seven have issues. Two planes are decent with minor problems, the rest are very poor: missing MG, struts not in the same location so the upper wing is badly canted, tails badly agog, etc.

    Some occasional problems with other models also but not near the high percentage of problems as with these. Wonder what went wrong

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    I was picking one SE5a from like 15 boxes in my local shop. I ended up buying none.

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    Could Someone Post some Pics to comprehend what the Problems exactly are?

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    All seven of these were Ares new in shrink. Some are minor problems and easily fixed. Some a bit over my head at the moment.

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    obviously products of a "mei ban fa" work ethic.

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    I am almost afraid to go and have a 'real look' at the recent planes ....

    Been playing 1916 exclusively for the last year and a half, so have not given much more than a passing glance at the models before packing them away.

    Similar to the Hurricane I opened in January (purchased in 2016) only to find it had no propellor ...
    (Ares tookcare of that)

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