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    Other than the number of cards, what is the difference between the J and K maneuver decks? The straights and side slips seem the same size to me.
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    There is a difference in roll rate, perhaps. There are only two side slips in the K deck, where there are three in the J. This means the plane flying the K deck can't perform endless sideslips.

    That is a difference in performance. Subtle, but a difference.

    In the WWII game, a few of the decks have sideslips that only allow high speed maneuvers on one card, and the other card, with the slow maneuver is a steep. Or, there might be other very subtle differences.

    It has to do with how the game designer decided to implement the performance envelope of a given plane, within the limitations of the game mechanics using a maneuver deck.
    Mike
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    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Looking closely at my WoW J and K decks, the only difference I can see is that the K deck does not have an immelmann. In all other respects they are identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windy Jack View Post
    Looking closely at my WoW J and K decks, the only difference I can see is that the K deck does not have an immelmann. In all other respects they are identical.
    Yes. There is an Immelmann card in the J deck that isn't in the K deck.

    Please count the sideslips, too. The K deck should only have two to each side (12, 13 to the right, 14, 15 to the left), where the J deck should have three (13, 14 15 to the right, 16, 17, 18 to the left). If that is not the case, I have work to amend on the MATES cards.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    You're correct, Mike

    'J' has three sideslips each side, and 1 Immelmann
    'K' has two sideslips each side, and has no Immelmann

    The arrow lengths on the decks are identical to each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windy Jack View Post
    Looking closely at my WoW J and K decks, the only difference I can see is that the K deck does not have an immelmann. In all other respects they are identical.
    Three more cards in the J deck Doug - two sideslips & Immel - otherwise the moves are the same

    Deck K (17) – Average speed - 3.5cm - (arrow is 50% of the card)
    3 straight
    3 right turn
    3 left turn
    2 stall - steep
    2 right sideslip
    2 left sideslip
    1 climb
    1 dive

    Deck J (20) - Average speed - 3.5cm - (arrow is 50% of the card)
    3 straight
    3 right turn
    3 left turn
    2 stall - steep
    1 Immelmann !
    3 right sideslip
    3 left sideslip
    1 climb
    1 dive

    Sapiens qui vigilat "He is wise who watches"

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    I thought I had carefully counted the number of cards, especially the side slips because they were mentioned in the original question. However, I stand corrected (or I got a dodgy second hand J deck!)



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