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    Default BELL P-39 AIRACOBRA edited as a miniature

    ARES shows on its FB a future miniature : BELL P-39 AIRACOBRA
    https://www.facebook.com/WingsOfGlor...type=2&theater
    Very nice profile, with its engine at the back of the cockpit.
    The absence of a turbo supercharger prevents it for becoming an effective high altitude interceptor but it is efficient at low and medium altitude, especially for ground attack.

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    Good news but probably won't see the light of day until about 2023. It would be nice to see a P-38 as well.
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    P-39 also very numerous on the Eastern Front......................
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Good news but probably won't see the light of day until about 2023.
    I totally agree with you there
    It would be nice to see a P-38 as well.
    And I agree with you here as well

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    P-39, we'll get one Russian, one American, who will be the third?

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    Which nation for a third model ?

    England : probably not, only one operational action in 1941.
    No. 601 Squadron RAF was the only British unit to use the Airacobra operationally, receiving their first two examples on 6 August 1941. On 9 October, four Airacobras attacked enemy barges near Dunkirk, in the type's only operational action with the RAF.

    France (allied) : one year of service from 1943 to late 1944.
    From mid-1943 on, three fighter squadrons flew these P-39s in combat over the Mediterranean, Italy and Southern France. A batch of P-39Qs was delivered later, but Airacobras, which were never popular with French pilots, had been replaced by P-47s in front line units by late 1944.

    Italy (allied) : in service from September 1944 to May 1945.
    In June 1944, the Italian Co-Belligerent Air Force (ICAF) received 170 P-39. At the end of the training, 70 aircraft were operational, and on 18 September 1944, 12° Group's P-39s flew their first mission over Albania. Concentrating on ground attack, the Italian P-39s proved to be suitable in this role, losing 10 aircraft between November and December 1944 to German flak. The 4° Stormo pilots flew many effective ground attack missions on northern Yugoslavia, losing only one more P-39, for engine failure in Sarajevo area, on April 1945. The Italian P-39 flew over 3,000 hours of combat.

    Australia : used in very limited numbers, from mid 1942 to mid 1943.
    A total of 23 re-conditioned Airacobras, on loan from the U.S. Fifth Air Force (5 AF), were used by the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) as a stop-gap interceptor in rear areas. Neither squadron received a full complement of Airacobras or saw combat with them. After serving with two squadrons for a few months, the remaining Airacobras were returned to the USAAF and the RAAF ceased to operate the type.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-39_Airacobra
    Last edited by monse; 12-17-2019 at 08:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monse View Post
    Which nation for a third model ?

    England : probably not, only one operational action in 1941.
    This sounds perfect for Ares - remember the Bristol Fighter with the top-wing gun, only one of which ever flew, and only ever flew one single mission? Yet Ares produced one third of their output representing this one single aircraft!
    Just PERFECT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    P-39, we'll get one Russian, one American, who will be the third?



    ill wager an italian one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    This sounds perfect for Ares - remember the Bristol Fighter with the top-wing gun, only one of which ever flew, and only ever flew one single mission? Yet Ares produced one third of their output representing this one single aircraft!
    Just PERFECT!

    Terrific.
    I bet for a Malayisian one.
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    The fact that they chose the P-39 over the P-38, which was used in Europe as well as the Pacific, boggles my mind.

    What will be the Axis models to pair with these?

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    I was really surprised when I heard they were doing the P-39, the one with the car doors that were amost impossible to bail out of. I really wish that they were doing the P-38 instead. Some people have probably never heard of the P-39, while a lot of people have heard about the P-38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    Terrific.
    I bet for a Malayisian one.
    Or the Portuguese one

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    This news made my day. Really, this looks as a fine chance to get back to Eastern Front and combination with a good ground attack fighter can be nice.

    P-38 is more Pacific for me (said someone "End of Yamamoto?") and I am happy about Corsair there.

    More or less, we need (read as "Daniel wants") ANYTHING, because if I remember well, last complete new series is from 2016 (Me.109K, D4Y1, P-47, SBD-5).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    because if I remember well, last complete new series is from 2016 (Me.109K, D4Y1, P-47, SBD-5).
    2016?! So long ago. Can't believe how fast time flies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    This sounds perfect for Ares - remember the Bristol Fighter with the top-wing gun, only one of which ever flew, and only ever flew one single mission? Yet Ares produced one third of their output representing this one single aircraft!
    Just PERFECT!
    And Hedeby's been using the same damned Brisfit ever since!

    Not an English P-39 please - I already have a squadron of them....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    2016?! So long ago. Can't believe how fast time flies...
    It's been a loooong time. I flew the then just released P-47 in Dan-Sams Origins battle over his home town.

    I'd also rather see the P-38 but will take what we can get to keep WGS alive. P-39 was at least in the Pacific, Russia and the Med., so can have some varied uses.

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    I'd be happy with a P-39, and the cards are already done.
    Still no word on what happened with WGS series 7; if the P-38 is off the table, then the Me-410 probably is too. I wasn't really looking forward to that (though the deck would have worked for most Mosquito marks),
    but I dearly wanted the P-38.
    Karl
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    Ares seems to have lost their focus again.


    I was really hoping for a PTO set and auxiliary models, similar to the Battle of Britain (which was very successful)
    The Midway movie would have definitely stirred up interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    It's been a loooong time. I flew the then just released P-47 in Dan-Sams Origins battle over his home town.
    ...
    Yes, I have exactly the same memory - the most important part of my carry-on lagguage on the way back

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    Ares could produce one Russian and two American P-39's (one from the Pacific theatre and one from the Mediterranean).

    I would like to see the P-38 Lightnings, which they have promised for so long, first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    It's been a loooong time. I flew the then just released P-47 in Dan-Sams Origins battle over his home town.

    I'd also rather see the P-38 but will take what we can get to keep WGS alive. P-39 was at least in the Pacific, Russia and the Med., so can have some varied uses.



    i remember that!

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    Looking at the 3D model online, I'm not sure what Ares is doing with this plane. It appears to me that they're putting a single gun in the wings, when most installations had two .30 cals in the wing positions, until the Q model, where single .50 cal gun pods could be used (no .30 cals, at all). In the video, it shows the Q model gun pod in place under the wing, so perhaps one of the three planes they put out might have pods in place? It still doesn't explain what seems to be a single wing gun position.

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    Note: With the pod installed, there was a cover plate where the dual .30 cal MGs would have been. Not a gun port, nor a gun. Russians typically removed the wing pods to allow for better roll rates and maneuver, depending on the 37mm cannon to do all the damage.
    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Note: With the pod installed, there was a cover plate where the dual .30 cal MGs would have been. Not a gun port, nor a gun. Russians typically removed the wing pods to allow for better roll rates and maneuver, depending on the 37mm cannon to do all the damage.
    THE Soviet Qs would still have had the 2 50cal MGs in the nose. But yes, they typically removed the wing guns to improve the roll rate.
    Karl
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    Ridiculous choice if America is one of their main markets. P-38 guaranteed to sell much much better, heck it would probably even sell better in Europe too. When will Ares learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canestri10 View Post
    Ridiculous choice if America is one of their main markets. P-38 guaranteed to sell much much better, heck it would probably even sell better in Europe too. When will Ares learn?


    agreed!

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    ARES's choices of models have usually surprised me, so to say.
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    I would expect all new releases to be 1-2 versions of any aircraft with decals to create alternative looks.

    Ares Can produce a Sud-Est SE 100 or whatever other weird aircraft they desire as long as they deliver on the Corsair.



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