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    Just seen the trailer for the new Battle of Midway movie... looks awesome

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    This movie is on my radar. Now that the fog of waiting is beginning to clear I will be dauntless in my theater dive.

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    Just hoping it will be better than Pearl Harbor ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumptonian View Post
    Just hoping it will be better than Pearl Harbor ...
    PH - my wife's most romantic and beloved movie+score ever.
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    I like it, too.

    Hope they have the same budget for the Battle of Midway.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Nice trailer, btw.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    PH - my wife's most romantic and beloved movie+score ever.
    I have a friend who used PH for hit on a girl. He told me they usually "need to break" the movie when a pilot takes a girl into cockpit...

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    I hope they don't spoil it with the "Love Story'!

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    IMO Alec Baldwin as Jimmy Doolittle was the biggest insult. Doolittle was 5'6" and bald while Alec Baldwin is 6' tall with a full head of hair. They used the male equivalent of a blond with a boob job. I would have been happier with David Cross... well, maybe not that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    I have a friend who used PH for hit on a girl. He told me they usually "need to break" the movie when a pilot takes a girl into cockpit...
    Same experience here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gully_raker View Post
    I hope they don't spoil it with the "Love Story'!
    I hope they will spice it up with some love story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    Same experience here...
    So your doughter is 15 years old, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-Sam View Post
    So your doughter is 15 years old, right?
    Yes, but there is another spicy love story behind it! Not for the Forum, but for a beer chat in Prague!
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    I shall have to keep my eyes open for the movie at my local cinema.

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    Likewise Dave.
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    The air raid on AF (I wonder who remembers that code) starts on Nov.8th.
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    Saw a short part of the movie last night while watching the History Channel and found the first mistake, that I know of, in the story. The part they showed was that CDR Langford didn't agree that Hawaii was the target but rather Midway and came up with the idea to have Midway send that they were having trouble with their water purifier. When the message was intercepted that AF had this problem it showed that Midway was the target. Well I think the officer that thought Midway was the target and came up with the idea to find out what AF meant was CDR Rochfort not a CDR Langford. I also see where it looks like a gunner in a Dauntless seems to be shooting down a 2 engine plane. Not sure where a Japanese 2 engine plane came from at Midway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    Saw a short part of the movie last night while watching the History Channel and found the first mistake, that I know of, in the story. The part they showed was that CDR Langford didn't agree that Hawaii was the target but rather Midway and came up with the idea to have Midway send that they were having trouble with their water purifier. When the message was intercepted that AF had this problem it showed that Midway was the target. Well I think the officer that thought Midway was the target and came up with the idea to find out what AF meant was CDR Rochfort not a CDR Langford. I also see where it looks like a gunner in a Dauntless seems to be shooting down a 2 engine plane. Not sure where a Japanese 2 engine plane came from at Midway.
    Yes Bob it was Cdr Rochford in the original movie.

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    Seen bits of a trailer in a cinema foyer and there seems to be a 'Betty' and a 'Nell' (G3M) being shot down?

    Looks like it covers Pearl Harbor to Midway, not sure if Coral Sea is in there.

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    I am happy about every now "big" film about aviation history. Even Pearl Harbor was fine - it turned people to take care what happend on 1941. The only other popular source of this event was..."The Final Countdown" movie. Crossing fingers to James C. and his band of filmmakers.

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    Don't forget there was TORA, TORA, TORA which I think was way better then Pearl Harbor. Years ago there was the movie MIDWAY which, for its time, was pretty good. No CGI but did the best they could for what they had at that time.

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    I agree with BobP - "Midway" (or "Battle of Midway" - same film, different title) was pretty faithful to the accepted "facts" at the time, and still makes for a good aviation action movie today.

    Only after reading "Shattered Sword" did I start to notice mistakes/assumptions contained in the script, which have only recently been discovered owing to the release of reams of files from contemporary Japanese sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    Don't forget there was TORA, TORA, TORA which I think was way better then Pearl Harbor. Years ago there was the movie MIDWAY which, for its time, was pretty good. No CGI but did the best they could for what they had at that time.
    Not on the other side of Iron Curtain in 1970. Pearl Harbor was in 2001, so it was in cinemas. TripleT was just in TV here.

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    TTT was a big movie here with some named stars in it. Now not to nit pick but I just saw something about MIDWAY showing 4 vets one at a time like they were watching the movie. Then they showed a photo of each guy from when they were in WWII. At the bottom of each photo they showed the rank of that person. 3 were Navy ranks with one being a CPO-Chief Petty Officer. Then they showed a guy in an early war helmet, the one with the brim around it. They gave his name and said Sergeant First Class (SFC), USMC. Well in the Marines an E-7 is a Gunnery Sergeant not an SFC. Also SFC was not a rank in WWII and came about after the war. Not sure of who does the checking of titles but they need to get a new person to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    I agree with BobP - "Midway" (or "Battle of Midway" - same film, different title) was pretty faithful to the accepted "facts" at the time, and still makes for a good aviation action movie today.

    Only after reading "Shattered Sword" did I start to notice mistakes/assumptions contained in the script, which have only recently been discovered owing to the release of reams of files from contemporary Japanese sources.
    I agree! the Midway movie was influenced by Fujita's account of the battle which later Japanese historians discovered was biased & flawed.
    "Shattered Sword" was a fantastic read & corrected many misconceptions.
    One thing I liked in the original Midway movie was use of actual combat footage.

    Re Tora, Tora, Tora. I thought this was far superior to Pearl Harbour.

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    I am going to see Midway this evening with my wife and dad. Remember when my dad and mom took me to see the first Midway in my youth.
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    To my mind, air battle scenes in this movie blow away all other scenes to date.
    The movie itself is great (I am not a purist). Even my wife got super excited (I was happy to explain her every stage of the attack). My dad thanked us for taking him with us.
    Fantastic evening we all had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gully_raker View Post
    I hope they don't spoil it with the "Love Story'!
    I want to assure you buddy, that love story in this movie is kept in 60-ies war movie standards, so to say.
    You can enjoy the movie with confidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Seen bits of a trailer in a cinema foyer and there seems to be a 'Betty' and a 'Nell' (G3M) being shot down?

    Looks like it covers Pearl Harbor to Midway, not sure if Coral Sea is in there.

    Neil
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    I can hear the sighs of relief from here. Delighted to say the good lady wife has agreed to see this, so hopefully off to the local multiplex tomorrow

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    Just got back from seeing Midway. The acting was good, if the lines given were sometimes a bit
    stinted and cliche. The attention to period was good to very good.
    The action was, charitably, cinematic; plane and ships flew/sailed way too close, and the action looked like a video game. Understandable today, unfortunately.
    The storyline kept quite well to history; again, understandable compressions of the timelines, and what people would have known and said. Nothing too jarring. Pluses for having Admiral Halsey relieved just before the battle with shingles (written sources say severe dermatitis), and Best leading 3 SBD's of Bombing 6 to the Akagi after McKlusky lead both bombing 6 and scouting 6 at the Kaga.
    All in all, a good war movie. Probably re-watchable too.

    Minor personal quibbles:
    Zeros stafing battleships, and causing huge explosions.
    Where were all our Wildcats! Not a single one.
    The Japanese 2-engined bombers had twin-tails, so must have been meant to be Nells (they weren't very recognizable on screen), but they should have been (at least in the Marshal Island attacks) Bettys, with single tails.
    They had B-26s attacking from Midway (Yah!), but way too many of them, and doing level bombing, not torpedo bombing. The near-miss on the Akagi's bridge would have been better from sealevel, and the strafing run by the Susie-Q on the same was surely worth 30-45 seconds of CGA time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Just got back from seeing Midway. The acting was good, if the lines given were sometimes a bit
    stinted and cliche. The attention to period was good to very good.
    The action was, charitably, cinematic; plane and ships flew/sailed way too close, and the action looked like a video game. Understandable today, unfortunately.
    The storyline kept quite well to history; again, understandable compressions of the timelines, and what people would have known and said. Nothing too jarring. Pluses for having Admiral Halsey relieved just before the battle with shingles (written sources say severe dermatitis), and Best leading 3 SBD's of Bombing 6 to the Akagi after McKlusky lead both bombing 6 and scouting 6 at the Kaga.
    All in all, a good war movie. Probably re-watchable too.

    Minor personal quibbles:
    Zeros stafing battleships, and causing huge explosions.
    Where were all our Wildcats! Not a single one.
    The Japanese 2-engined bombers had twin-tails, so must have been meant to be Nells (they weren't very recognizable on screen), but they should have been (at least in the Marshal Island attacks) Bettys, with single tails.
    They had B-26s attacking from Midway (Yah!), but way too many of them, and doing level bombing, not torpedo bombing. The near-miss on the Akagi's bridge would have been better from sealevel, and the strafing run by the Susie-Q on the same was surely worth 30-45 seconds of CGA time.
    What a professional review, Karl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    I want to assure you buddy, that love story in this movie is kept in 60-ies war movie standards, so to say.
    You can enjoy the movie with confidence.
    Thank you Andy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    I am going to see Midway this evening with my wife and dad. Remember when my dad and mom took me to see the first Midway in my youth.
    That's the difference - ma dad watched just Vinetou in cinema! Fortunately, he bought a video recorder later so I can watch Midway every time I stayed ill at home.



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