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    Hey everyone, I'm looking to collate any new Ace Skills & Optional Rules that come with the latest releases so that I may add them into the Sticky in the rules section and update the document that goes with it in the files section. I have to ask as I don't buy all the models myself & don't want to miss any from the listing.
    Other than Sneak Attack that came with Ball's Nieuport I don't know if there are any others yet so if you've found any with series 1, or, the series 4 reprint please do us a favour and post a nice clear pic of them in this thread so I may get to transcribing them onto the forum.

    Thanks in advance, cheers Dave

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Ball has Sneak attack, Perfect aim for skills. He also has the two 'higher machine gun' and alternative armament to up grade from a B to an A damage deck options.

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    In the T&T set with Navarre, new skills added are stuntman, anti-shield expert, tactical expert, heat-ray dodging, tripod hunter and tripod buster.

    Stuntman, This ability can be used on single-seaters only.
    Before anybody reveals a maneuver card, if this ace planned a straight maneuver you can declare that he turns the nose to the right of left and skids while shooting. In the next firing phase, his firing arc on the chosen side is widened to 90*.
    When you use this ability take four recovery counters.

    Anti-shield expert. You must decide to use this ability before any damage cards are drawn. If the attack inflicts an energy loss to a tripod protected by electrified armor, the target loses one additional energy counter. A card inflicting zero energy loss is still considered a zero.
    When you use this ability take two recovery counters.

    Tactical expert. At the beginning of the planning phase, you may look at the planned maneuver cards of one tripod, before planning this ace's maneuvers.
    The chosen tripod must be within one ruler's distance from his airplane, in any direction.
    This skill can be used once in a game. Turn this card facedown to remember that this skill has been used.

    Heat-ray dodging. When this airplane takes a heat-ray damage card, after seeing it you may decide to discard it and draw another damage card from the same deck, to replace it.
    This skill can be used twice in a game. Put a recovery counter on this card as a reminder each time the skill is used.

    Tripod hunter.
    You must decide to use this ability before any damage cards are drawn. If the attack inflicts at least one point of damage, or an energy loss, the Martian player must declare it and draw an additional B damage card. If this card is not a 0, the tripod topples. Ignore damage points and special damage on this additional B damage card, and reshuffle it immediately in its deck.
    This skill can be used twice in the game. Put a recovery counter on this card as a reminder each time the skill is used.

    Tripod buster. When this ace fires rockets at a tripod, the target's player must declare if he draws at least one 0 D damage card. If so, you may use this skill to require the tripod to draw an additional D damage card.
    When you use this skill, take four recovery counters. Until all are removed, 0 damage cards are not declared by tripods the ace hits with rockets.

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    Thanks Peter, I will add them to the Tripod walk through. looking at the series 1 kites that came with the Tripods they don't appear to have any cards so we might just have to wait to see what series 4 brings to the party.
    Stunt man & Tactical expert might make for good cross over skills though...

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Navarre's skills are the same as Ball's, the one I listed above come with the T&T starter set.

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    As series 4 is hitting the door mat I'm bumping this - if anyone has the time to compile a list of the ace skills & equipment cards that come with the following or can post a pic that would be a great help & I can add them to the ace skills thread / listing for the benefit of all.

    Any of the Tandem's cards, Holtzem's Pfalz, Dallas' SE5a

    Thanks in advance...

    My s.4a arrived today - thanks Keith - got humped by customs...
    but probably still cheaper than buying here... just !
    Last edited by flash; 09-19-2019 at 08:44.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Dave I am expecting delivery of my Bishop SE5, McCudden's 5a & Voss's Pfalz in the mail shortly so will advise what skill cards come with those when I unpack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gully_raker View Post
    Dave I am expecting delivery of my Bishop SE5, McCudden's 5a & Voss's Pfalz in the mail shortly so will advise what skill cards come with those when I unpack.
    Thanks mate, I've already got them on the page, it's the Tandem's cards, Holtzem's Pfalz, Dallas' SE5a I'm after.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    I don't think Holtzem and Dallas offer any new skills. I'm away till Monday so can't verify till then. I'm sure someone else can do so before then.

    I also quickly looked through the Breguets before heading out and don't remember any new skills there either. Photo expert? Can take a photo on a stall or straight instead of just a stall. Is that new?

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    I had cataract surgery yesterday. When I get back from my followup appointment this morning I will dig out my cards.
    I got all of the Series 4. Having a hard time seeing what i am typing right now ...

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    Hope that improves quickly Pete.
    I'm after all the gen - who has what, not just new skills, so I can update the thread. ta !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Best wishes for a speedy recovery Pete.
    I know just how debilitating loss of focus can be. My one working eye has days where it just clouds over and I gt everything in a fog of double letters superimposed on each other, hence the somewhat erratic spelling on occasions or even posting in the wrong places.
    Some times it clears up in an hour or so. Sometimes it takes all day.
    I have not had an episode since before Prague this year so am hoping it will stay away for some time.
    Let me know how you go on.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Stuntman, This ability can be used on single-seaters only.
    Before anybody reveals a maneuver card, if this ace planned a straight maneuver you can declare that he turns the nose to the right of left and skids while shooting. In the next firing phase, his firing arc on the chosen side is widened to 90*.
    When you use this ability take four recovery counters.
    This rule is tailored on Voss flying his Fokker Dr.I.
    From Wikipedia, speaking about Voss' last duel: «As Bowman later noted concerning his only shot at Voss: "'To my amazement he kicked on full rudder, without bank, pulled his nose up slightly, gave me a burst while he was skidding sideways and then kicked on opposite rudder before the results of this amazing stunt appeared to have any effect on the controllability of his machine."»
    Last edited by Angiolillo; 09-20-2019 at 19:27.

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    It looks like you have most of them, Dave.
    I will just list the plane/pilot and skills for now.
    Small print is still a bit tricky (especially after putting drops in the eye)
    Let me know if you need explanation of any of the new skills.

    WGF122A Pflalz D.IIIa Berthold
    Level 05 Ace Card
    Double Ace
    Firm Hand
    Lucky Pilot
    Single Arm
    Sniper
    Strong Constitution
    Team Coordination

    WGF123B Pfalz D.IIIa Holzem
    No Ace Card
    Acrobatic Pilot
    Bullet Checker
    Daredevil
    Good at Escaping
    Height Control
    Intuitive
    Itchy Trigger Finger
    Lucky Pilot

    WGF123C Pflz D.III Voss
    Level 06 Ace Card
    Acrobatic Pilot
    Daredevil
    Perfect Aim
    Sharp Eye
    Sniper
    Stuntman

    Level 07 Ace Card
    add Super Ace

    Optional Rules:
    High Speed Dives
    Unreachable Machine Guns

    WGF124A RAF S.E. 5 Bishop
    Level 07 Ace Card
    Acrobatic Pilot
    Daredevil
    Intuitive
    Perfect Aim
    Sharp Eye
    Sniper
    Super Ace

    Optional Rules:
    Higher Machine Gun (separate cards for Basic/Standard and Advanced)

    WGF124B RAF SE.5a Dallas
    Ace Card Level 05
    Daredevil
    Perfect Aim
    Sharp Eye
    Strong Constitution
    Team Coordination

    Ace Card Level 06
    add Super Ace

    Optional Rules:
    Higher Machine Gun (separate cards for Basic/Standard and Advanced)

    WGF124C McCudden

    Ace Card Level 02
    Daredevil
    Intuitive

    Ace Card Level 03
    add Good at Escaping

    Optional Rules:
    Higher Machine Gun (separate cards for Basic/Standard and Advanced)
    Enhanced SE.5a

    WGF211A Rumpler C.IV Luftstreitkrafte 8231
    Ace Cards
    Photo Expert
    Precision Bombardier
    Good at Escaping

    WGF211B Rumpler C.IV Lufstreikrafte 8256
    Ace Cards
    Rookie Pilot
    Rookie Observer
    Strong Constitution

    WGF211C Rumpler C.IV Ziegert
    Ace Cards
    Perfect Bombardier
    Bullet Checker
    Technical Eye

    WGF212A Breguet BR.14 B2 Escadrille BR 111
    Ace Cards
    Bullet Checker
    Photo Expert
    Optional Armament (Rear A instead of B)

    WGF212B Breguet BR.14 B2 (Audinot/Cenival)
    Ace Cards
    Fire Expert
    Precision Bombardier
    Weapon Specialist

    WGF212C Breguet BR.14 A2 (Stanley/Folger)
    Ace Cards
    Precision Bombardier
    Sniper
    Tunnel Machine Gun
    Last edited by Stumptonian; 09-20-2019 at 15:30. Reason: can't see for sh*t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    Best wishes for a speedy recovery Pete.
    I know just how debilitating loss of focus can be. My one working eye has days where it just clouds over and I gt everything in a fog of double letters superimposed on each other, hence the somewhat erratic spelling on occasions or even posting in the wrong places.
    Some times it clears up in an hour or so. Sometimes it takes all day.
    I have not had an episode since before Prague this year so am hoping it will stay away for some time.
    Let me know how you go on.
    Rob.
    Thanks, Rob (and Dave)
    Eye is still sore but a lot better today.
    I have to take prescription drops (3 different kinds) for the next 4 weeks.

    The fine print is still a bit fuzzy but improving.
    Sounds like you are far worse off than me, Rob. Is it a detached retina?
    Just the one eye for now - my left is good for distance, but my right was getting hopeless for closeups.
    I hope this has done the trick - I have a bunch of (minor) repaints to do on my SE.5a ...

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    Thanks for that Pete, very helpful.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    This rule is tailored on Voss flying his Fokker Dr.I....
    Thanks for that Andrea, I thought that would be the case - pity Ares don't do his Dr.1 yet !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumptonian View Post
    Is it a detached retina?

    I am hoping not as I had a laser Op for that on the same eye about ten years ago.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Thanks for that Andrea, I thought that would be the case - pity Ares don't do his Dr.1 yet !
    I got an extra Nexus Kemp to fix that problem.

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    Thanks Mike - that covers it nicely

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    Very nice. Thank you.



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