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    Just curious what the differences are in the various subtypes of planes are, as an example the Bregeut A2 and B2. Aesthetic, cards or anything else? I've given myself a goal of 2 of each type of plane, and I'm wondering if I get 1 A2 and 1B2, or if I need to scrounge for 2 of each...

    Thanks in advance!

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    From memory, there's really only a difference if the sub-type makes a difference in game terms. Most aircraft there isn't (Example the Breguet 14 A.2 & 14 B.2 The A.2 was mostly the reconnaissance/two-seat fighter version, on the odd occasion, whereas the B.2 was the bomber version). Not enough difference in performance in real life to make a difference in game terms. From memory, the A.2 version doesn't even "officially" exist in the game, except as a promotional card.

    OTOH, there exist both standard and rocket-armed versions of the Nieuport 11...a substantial visual difference, so there are mini's for both. And the rocket-armed versions come with optional rules cards notes for the rockets.

    Standard and "comic" versions of the Sopwith 1+1/2-Strutter. Again, a substantial visual difference, and in game terms, the comic lacks a rear gunner, and has twin fixed, forward-firing guns. Again, an optional rule card to deal with the mostly awkward mounting.

    Things like that.

    See this related thread: https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...collect+to+win

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    Appreciate the reply. The reason I used the Bregeut was that in the upcoming re-release of set 4, there are both A2 and B2 versions. The Breguet BR.14 A2 - Stanley/Folger (WGS212C) and then the Breguet BR.14 B2 - Escadrille Br 127 (WGS212B) and Breguet BR.14 B2 - Escadrille Br 111 (WGS212A). Visually (to me), they look the same, so I was wondering if the decks would be identical.

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    The was a card produced in the Nexus years that upgraded the engine on the Breguet BR.14 so that it flew on the 'H' deck, instead of the 'K'.
    This was a late war (or post-war?) plane, with one upper wing roundel and one Polish square...…………

    I'm still at work (AGAIN!!!) at the moment, but I'll try to remember to dig it out when I'm at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth7 View Post
    Appreciate the reply. The reason I used the Bregeut was that in the upcoming re-release of set 4, there are both A2 and B2 versions .... Visually (to me), they look the same, so I was wondering if the decks would be identical.
    They're not, the A2 will have an H deck, the B2 will have the K deck - recon v a bomber type, they have different speeds, H being Fast; K being Average & different max alts, 14 & 12 respectively, though that is yet tbc.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    You will also see a difference between the Billy Bishop S.E.5 and the two S.E.5a's in the same re-release. The S.E.5 uses the Fr deck (presumably the r means that the previous F deck has been modified in some way). The S.E.5a's use the N deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth7 View Post
    The reason I used the Bregeut was that in the upcoming re-release of set 4, there are both A2 and B2 versions. The Breguet BR.14 A2 - Stanley/Folger (WGS212C) and then the Breguet BR.14 B2 - Escadrille Br 127 (WGS212B) and Breguet BR.14 B2 - Escadrille Br 111 (WGS212A).
    Ah! Hadn't paid enough attention to that to notice. Hm, I wonder exactly what I ordered.
    But yes, as we see in the other replies, there is a difference in game terms, though not in appearance.

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    I already have one each of the original release.
    I thought I had pre-ordered 2 of the A2 and 1 each of the other two, but found it was 2 of the B2 with the new CDL livery and one each of the others.

    Guess I will be adding another A2 when they arrive at the Aerodrome later this year ...

    (and I have only used the ones I already have once or twice ...)

    Gotta keep Keith in business ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    You will also see a difference between the Billy Bishop S.E.5 and the two S.E.5a's in the same re-release. The S.E.5 uses the Fr deck (presumably the r means that the previous F deck has been modified in some way). The S.E.5a's use the N deck.
    Hello! Se5 is slower than Se5a, so the Fr deck is basically a N deck with shorter arrows. But Se5 is also a bit worse in maneuvring than Se5a, its perfected derivation, so it has a couple more maneuvres that are steep. In short, overall the new deck is also a F deck with some more restriction. Hence the Fr name that Ares Games chose.

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    Thank you for explaining about the Fr deck, Andrea.

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    Nice to see the the SE5 and SE5a are different. I had just used the F deck with similar steep maneuvers like the N. Can't wait to see the new Fr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    Hello! Se5 is slower than Se5a, so the Fr deck is basically a N deck with shorter arrows. But Se5 is also a bit worse in maneuvring than Se5a, its perfected derivation, so it has a couple more maneuvres that are steep. In short, overall the new deck is also a F deck with some more restriction. Hence the Fr name that Ares Games chose.
    Thanks Andrea - very helpful

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Wiki says that only 77 Se-5s were issued before the re-engined Se-5a came around.

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