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    Question Are there any rules for the water-injection system?

    Hi everyone,
    I would like to know if there were any rules for the water-injection system in the F4U Corsair. It was used in emergencies to boost the airplanes speed for a short amount of time.
    Thanks, Nathan

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    I don't think any have been suggested as yet Nathan, but I am sure that someone will come up with a suggestion or two.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    We have a couple that we bought from Hobby Lobby made by New Ray Toys, they are 1:190 scale, but are close enough.

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    Those work, I have a dozen of them and several AIM 1/200" scale in resin with birdcage and bubble canopy. Gotta get them a carrier, hmmmm . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    Those work, I have a dozen of them and several AIM 1/200" scale in resin with birdcage and bubble canopy. Gotta get them a carrier, hmmmm . . .
    Well Clipper, I see you have been holding out on us. Some Corsairs and not for sale???

    Thomas

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    Here's a tasty photo from my book of Heroes . . .

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    A bit closer . . .

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    Love the rocket's!

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    OK, with a quick look why I didn't add these rules....the difference between water-injected and non-injected max speed is only 7.5mm of arrow length.
    Not really enough to mess with at our game's scale.
    I could see changing the climb rate from a 3 to a 2 while using water injection.

    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    That's about the length of the arrowhead if I recall correctly, so a simple move to slide it along.. you'd just need something to mark the boost being used, work out for how long it can be applied & how often it can be used in a game.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    I was expecting the Corsair to have a climb rate of 2 anyway without a boost.

    Other aircraft had water injection also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    That's about the length of the arrowhead if I recall correctly, so a simple move to slide it along.. you'd just need something to mark the boost being used, work out for how long it can be applied & how often it can be used in a game.
    That's true.


    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    I was expecting the Corsair to have a climb rate of 2 anyway without a boost.

    Other aircraft had water injection also.
    So, upgrade climb rate for 1 level (4 to 3, 3 to 2 etc), unless it's already 2?

    OR

    Just allow to increase altitude for 2 climb markers?

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    I'm going with just a climb of 2 for the F4U boosted; other planes i need to look at.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Thank you guys for the help! Is there an average time length for the system?

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    The German's systems had 30-40 minutes of stuff. I haven't seen any figures for the USA ones, but I would assume the same.
    Far more time than a game would last.
    BTW, there doesn't' seem to be enough gain in climb for the P-47 to change from a 3; too heavy a Jug, I guess
    Did any other allied planes use this?
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    There were a number of aircraft on both sides using water, methanol or other methods of boosting engine output. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    The German's systems had 30-40 minutes of stuff. I haven't seen any figures for the USA ones, but I would assume the same.
    Far more time than a game would last.
    BTW, there doesn't' seem to be enough gain in climb for the P-47 to change from a 3; too heavy a Jug, I guess
    Did any other allied planes use this?
    Karl
    That is probably why there are not rules for it. I found a discussion that said it was for about 90 seconds for the Corsair:
    https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread...jection.47401/



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