R Deck for N-16 with rockets?

**James Denberger** · 12-29-2018 22:30

Recovery operations continue, I have managed to acquire a Nieuport 16 with rockets from one of the balloon sets. Sadly, it has the base but no "R" maneuver deck. Is there another deck that s close to the R deck I can substitute. My search of the Aerodrome failed to find the answer.

**flash** · 12-30-2018 02:15

No, there's not anything that doesn't require additions as the R deck has 3 sideslips James.
The closest you will get is to use a T deck & add a pair of sideslips from another deck - E; G; P; T; Y, or, use an E deck, strip out the wide sideslips & sub in the pair of sideslips from another deck. There are combinations of all the above of course. This link may,or, may not help you.
https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/do...o=file&id=2043

Deck R (20) – Slow speed - 2.9cm - (arrow is 40% of the card)
3 straight
3 right turn
3 left turn
2 stall - steep
1 Immelmann !
3 right sideslip
3 left sideslip
1 climb
1 dive

Deck T (18) – Slow speed - 2.9cm - (arrow is 40% of the card)
3 straight
3 right turn
3 left turn
2 stall - steep
1 Immelmann !
2 right sideslip
2 left sideslip
1 climb
1 dive

Deck E (20) – Slow speed - 2.9cm - (arrow is 40% of the card)
3 straight
3 right turn
3 left turn
2 stall - steep
1 Immelmann !
2 right sideslip
2 left sideslip
1 broad right sideslip - steep
1 broad left sideslip - steep
1 climb
1 dive

**Baxter** · 12-30-2018 04:33

Try using the WGF Mates cards. There is an R deck card in there. I think it is in the WWI files section under Custom Cards. You do not need a manoevre deck with that as the one R card has all you need on it.

**Teaticket** · 12-30-2018 08:49

If you want to print out your own, PM me your email address and I can send you a scan of the R deck.

**James Denberger** · 01-02-2019 19:44

Folks,

Thanks for the great response.

**monse** · 02-08-2019 06:17

ARES has announced on its FB the release of Ball’s Nieuport 16 as an Airplane Pack.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...65315796821106

Nice to see Ball’s and Navarre’s Nieuport 16 added to the list of WGF products.
No release schedule yet.
https://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-w...4tr6iE7erysgWs

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**Teaticket** · 02-08-2019 07:24

That is good news. Nice to see ARES make these available as a separate pack.

**OldGuy59** · 02-08-2019 08:36

Oooh! It will be interesting to see what Ace Skills come out for the Ares Albert Ball plane, now that I've done him for the PragueCon Vimy Ridge scenario.

OldGuy59's Wings of PragueCon 2019 Album - Albert Ball

**zenlizard** · 02-08-2019 10:47

Originally Posted by monse

ARES has announced on its FB the release of Ball’s Nieuport 16 as an Airplane Pack.
Nice to see Ball’s and Navarre’s Nieuport 16 added to the list of WGF products.
No release schedule yet.

Such a tease!

**Stumptonian** · 02-08-2019 11:09

Per Ares site (and monse's snip)

* Jean Navarre's Nieuport 16 model is included in the WW1 Wings of Glory Tripods & Triplanes Starter Set - not available as Airplane Pack.

**Ian S** · 02-08-2019 15:07

I'm not sure that's right Stumptonian. According to my reading of the article Monse published above it will be an airplane pack.

Also on the Ares Website the Navarre Nieuport 16 model is listed under the airplane packs section of WGF.

https://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-w...ks/nieuport-16

**Stumptonian** · 02-08-2019 15:10

Originally Posted by Ian S

I'm not sure that's right Stumptonian. According to my reading of the article Monse published above it will be an airplane pack.

Also on the Ares Website the Navarre Nieuport 16 model is listed under the airplane packs section of WGF.

https://www.aresgames.eu/games/ww1-w...ks/nieuport-16

It's right at the bottom of the article, just above the disclaimer and the pictures.

**Ian S** · 02-08-2019 15:25

I did see that but then why list it under airplane packs with a WGF reference? I guess time will tell. If they sense a market for selling it separately it may happen.

**Stumptonian** · 02-08-2019 15:53

Originally Posted by Ian S

I did see that but then why list it under airplane packs with a WGF reference? I guess time will tell. If they sense a market for selling it separately it may happen.

Yes it seems odd, unless they are planning to release it with the promised balloons later.
Got mine on the way with the Kickstarter.

**Ian S** · 02-08-2019 16:12

I don't have the Kickstarter but then I'm not that bothered about Navarre. Looking forward to getting Ball's Nieuport 16 though.

**Lohengrin** · 02-09-2019 07:38

Originally Posted by Ian S

I did see that but then why list it under airplane packs with a WGF reference? I guess time will tell. If they sense a market for selling it separately it may happen.

They also list Kickstarter Only models on their website without those ever being available at retail. The models *were* produced, should they exclude them from their production history? This model (Navarre Nieuport 16), too, appears to be a Kickstarter exclusive, and it is listed as a model they have produced for the game. Where is the contradiction?