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    Question Crew Skill Cards

    I'm curious if Ares/Nexus produced skill cards for all the skills from the various products. I have some of the cards but I am missing some things listed in the RAP (at least) and wasn't sure if they had been produced or not.

    So far I have:

    Lightfooted, Precision Bombardier, Nimble Gunner, Double Ace, Super Ace, Strong Constitution, Intuitive, Daredevil, Height Control, Nimble Pilot, Lucky Pilot, Good at Escaping, Weapon Specialist, Fire Expert, Bullet Checker, Technical Eye, Emergency Pilot, Experienced Pilot, Itchy Trigger Finger, Perfect Aim, and Sniper.

    Thanks,

    Joe
    Last edited by BwanaJoe; 12-10-2018 at 18:05.

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    Yes they have all been produced Joe, if that's your question ?
    Have a look here if you haven't already:
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...al-Rules-lt-lt
    It will tell you what they are, the detail & what set/model they came with, and/or, where they are mentioned.
    At least as best I could figure out at the time.
    Hopefully, if the scenarios book ever gets published it will contain them all too.
    Also in a Word doc here https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/do...o=file&id=2485
    Last edited by flash; 12-10-2018 at 12:11.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Yep, that was what I was asking, thanks. So the next question, does anyone have scans of the cards I am missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BwanaJoe View Post
    Yep, that was what I was asking, thanks. So the next question, does anyone have scans of the cards I am missing?
    It might help if you list what you're missing Joe.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    It might help if you list what you're missing Joe.
    Hmm, thats the thing Dave, I’m not sure! I’ll go under the assumption everything has been produced and gen up a list.

    With luck the cards will be reproduced, one day, maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BwanaJoe View Post
    Hmm, thats the thing Dave, I’m not sure! I’ll go under the assumption everything has been produced and gen up a list.

    With luck the cards will be reproduced, one day, maybe...
    I gave you a link to what's out there so you should be able to work it out from that

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    I gave you a link to what's out there so you should be able to work it out from that
    Thanks, that's the doc I'm working from! I'd downloaded that puppy a few months ago. Again, wasn't sure that every skill had a printed card that went along with it.

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    This is not a game in which you have to possess the official cards in order to use a skill, Joe. The cards are just a reminder that the crew member has that skill and what it entails. You could make your own cards by typing the words into a word processor and printing them out on cardboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    This is not a game in which you have to possess the official cards in order to use a skill, Joe. The cards are just a reminder that the crew member has that skill and what it entails. You could make your own cards by typing the words into a word processor and printing them out on cardboard.
    True, but it would be kinda nice to have cards if they exist.

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    according to andrea all skill/ability cards are going to be reprinted in the campaign pack. i have no idea how soon we can expect that though.

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    The other thing that the RAP has, are tokens for the different skills listed in it. These were to be used as reminders that skills were in use, before individual cards were printed.

    Not as good as cards, but they work, sort-of. I have a problem remembering the rules, let alone the exceptions that skills throw into the mix. I get most of the way through a game, and suddenly see the extra card beside my console, realizing I've missed a few opportunities. D'oh!
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 11-20-2020 at 19:11.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    I made some ace skill chits (from the Rap) that are more obvious than the ones provided. You can get them 'HERE'. I printed them on full sheet label and stuck it to a piece of card stock.

    I haven't yet done the newer crew skills. Soon.

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    So, going under the assumption every skill listed everywhere has a card, I'm missing:

    Acrobatic Pilot.
    Chivalrous Aptitude.
    Team Coordination.
    Expert Trainer.
    Incendiary Bullets.
    Photo Expert.
    Shadower.
    Sharp Eye.
    Balloon Buster.
    Perfect Bombardier.

    That seems to be it for Skill Cards. Anything else from the list are optional rules for aircraft and rookies.

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    All of these are available with the models listed Joe so you should be able to pick them up if no one has spares -

    Acrobatic Pilot - (s.9 - WGF122C Nieuport 11; WGF121B/C Phönix D.I)(s.3a - WGF117A/C Nieuport 17; WGF118C Albatros D.III)
    Chivalrous Aptitude.(s.3a - WGF117A Nieuport 17)
    Team Coordination.(s.9 - WGF122B Nieuport 11)
    Expert Trainer. (s.3a - WGF118A Albatros D.III)
    Incendiary Bullets... Don't think this has a card - not strictly a skill
    Photo Expert. (s.3a - WGF206A RAF R.E.8; WGF205B Ufag C.I)
    Shadower. (s.3a - WGF117B Nieuport 17)
    Sharp Eye. (s.9 - WGF209A Sopwith 11/2 Strutter)
    Balloon Buster. (s.9 - WGF122C Nieuport 11)
    Perfect Bombardier. (s.3a - WGF205B Ufag C.I)

    Take a look at Bob's (skystalker) excellent complete listing document to match them up with named pilot.
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/do...do=file&id=723

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    I made some ace skill chits (from the Rap) that are more obvious than the ones provided. You can get them 'HERE'. I printed them on full sheet label and stuck it to a piece of card stock.

    I haven't yet done the newer crew skills. Soon.
    Thanks for the link Peter. I'll check it out.

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    So they only came with the models. I had thought they were released like the other skill cards as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BwanaJoe View Post
    So they only came with the models. I had thought they were released like the other skill cards as well.
    Not yet. There is a hope they will come with the scenarios book if it ever gets produced.
    There was WGF701A WW1 Ace & Skill Cards Promo Deck that gave you pilots & their skill cards
    There was WGF702A WW1 Aces - Career Deck that gave you pilots & their skill cards
    There was a Crew Skills Deck that came with the Giants KS that gave you generic crew skills ie not assigned to a specific pilot
    There were pilots & their skill cards that came with series 3a & 9 models as well as Optional Rule cards.
    Maybe more new ones will accompany subsequent series reprints - like series 1 & 10 in 2019 ?

    Hopefully someone who has bought multiples for repaints will be able to help you out.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Home printable Ace Skill cards?

    OldGuy59's WGF Ace Skill Cards Album

    PS: Includes a card for Incendiary Bullets.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    That's handy Mike
    Will you be doing the rest ?

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    That's handy Mike
    Will you be doing the rest ?
    This was an attempt to make easy printable items, sized to business cards, for local demo games. I have put them in a Word template and printed onto pre-perforated business card sheets. Then, handed them out to players, not caring if they went away, or came back.

    So, at this time, I haven't considered doing any others. Ares is currently printing these, sporadically, in Plane Packs, so putting cards on our forum could be considered IP infringment.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    ...So, at this time, I haven't considered doing any others. Ares is currently printing these, sporadically, in Plane Packs, so putting cards on our forum could be considered IP infringment.
    OK. But what you've already done could also be considered IP infringement...?

    "He is wise who watches"

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    One Ace card I certainly won't be needing.




    Now a fire extinguisher, or sprinkler system would be most appreciated.

    Kyte.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    One Ace card I certainly won't be needing.




    Now a fire extinguisher, or sprinkler system would be most appreciated.

    Kyte.



    well, i believe all male pilots come equipped with an innate sprinkler system if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    OK. But what you've already done could also be considered IP infringement...?
    Oh, yes! It is.

    Only the sizing and intent is marginally different. My only defense in this case is that I am using the output to stimulate interest in the game, and draw in new hobbyists.

    I have been waiting for the request to remove them, actually.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Oh, yes! It is.

    Only the sizing and intent is marginally different. My only defense in this case is that I am using the output to stimulate interest in the game, and draw in new hobbyists.

    I have been waiting for the request to remove them, actually.
    Really? As they are no longer produced I wouldn’t think it was a big deal. I mean these guys certainly don’t seem like the jerks from GW!

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    I think you should make your own. Windy Jack made plus 1 counters and I did some Lewis gun counters for when we play limited ammo rules. Any rule you want to use or make up can be printed up on card or paper and laminated really. No limits to your imagination.

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    So they actually are still in production. I assumed that like the Ace sets and Crew Skill cards they were OOP.

    And I much prefer Ares to FF for the very reason that I would NEVER buy a model/figure/booster for a single card just to be competitive. That is again a very scummy GW style thing to do. Man, can’t stand that company.

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    Ares plans to put out a Campaign & Scenario Pack (sometime), as I am part of the play test group. In that set, I hope, is a complete set of Ace Skill cards, including some new campaign skills.

    So, yes, along with individual Airplane Packs with skill cards appropriate to the pilot of the particular plane, the Ace Skills are being printed. Just not in a separate bundles that were really done as promotional things.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Seems like they'd be well-served to eliminate the inventory and distribution problems and offer these skill cards on a print-on-demand service like drivethrucards.com. In fact, not a bad way to offer extra maneuver and damage decks too. I purchased a deck for an unrelated game recently, and the quality is excellent.

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    Coming from X-Wing I started out wanting every card and was not very pleased when they came out with different abilities in different versions of the same plane. I got over that quickly, this isn't X-Wing (thank goodness) and now I've printed Flash's ability sheet and keep it with my kit. The only thing missing is Adrea's suggested point values which Flash said he doesn't want to add. We can of course. I no longer care if I have the cards or not.

    Thanks to Flash for creating the list and keeping it up to date. Great list.

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    I am attempting to test out the Campaign rules, and between my opponent and myself, we are loosing pilots at a very high rate. It is looking like getting a pilot through to the second skill card might not happen.

    However, my buddy needs a visual reference for the skills, including some of the Campaign specific skills, and the ones I don't have. I am doing up cards for quick reference during games, and to do random picks for replacement pilots when too many veterans are taken out.

    This is my version of a printer/ink friendly card:
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    There will be nearly 40 cards for all the skills available, if my count of the currently available skills is correct, plus the campaign specific skills in the play-test material stays the same.

    I am hoping that the Campaign and Scenario Pack will contain a full set of these cards. Fingers are crossed.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    andrea did say that the campaign pack would contain one of every skill published to date. cant wait for it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by milcoll73 View Post
    andrea did say that the campaign pack would contain one of every skill published to date. cant wait for it!!!
    Just one? That's odd. Shouldn't it contain at least 4 of each or a minimum of two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken at Sunrise View Post
    Just one? That's odd. Shouldn't it contain at least 4 of each or a minimum of two.


    i think he said something like at least one, but im not sure. its been awhile.

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    Yes, it sound like a great expansion for the game.

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    I for one will not be holding my breath!
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    I would once again urge them to use a print-on-demand service so they can make the decks available at all times to anyone who wants one, with Ares having to put in zero investment in inventory and distribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReducedAirFact View Post
    I would once again urge them to use a print-on-demand service so they can make the decks available at all times to anyone who wants one, with Ares having to put in zero investment in inventory and distribution.
    This actually makes a lot of sense, what with the ongoing crisis that need not be named.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenlizard View Post
    ..., what with the ongoing crisis that need not be named.
    USA presidential election?
    So how many books are in your personal library?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJG173 View Post
    USA presidential election?
    Not a topic for the Drome chaps.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJG173 View Post
    USA presidential election?


    just stop already.

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    My final list of Ace Skill cards came out to 41 (including the play-test Campaign skills).

    This doesn't consider different levels of Ace Skills, as was done in the Over-The-Trenches campaign. Anyone have ideas, or using levels of skills in their games?
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    My final list of Ace Skill cards came out to 41 (including the play-test Campaign skills).

    This doesn't consider different levels of Ace Skills, as was done in the Over-The-Trenches campaign. Anyone have ideas, or using levels of skills in their games?
    Just printed, cut up, and sleeved these cards. Hmmm...

    "Incendiary Bullets" is not a skill. It should have been printed as an Equipment Card for an Optional Rule, like Higher Machine Gun, or Lockable Controls.

    Also, "Rookie Pilot" or Rookie Observer" are Crew Status indicators, not skills. These cards would be handy 'references' for a game, should you be flying a plane with rookie crews, sort of why you'd want Equipment Cards to remind the player of optional rules in effect for a particular plane.

    So, for Ace Skill selection in our campaigns, I will be removing these three cards from the deck when random selections are desired. At least the Incendiary Bullets card, if someone wants the randomness of getting a Rookie crew, rather than an actual skill when picking new crew for a scenario.
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 10-19-2020 at 16:45.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Daryl that is a great idea. I am sure they would get many requests for cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    Daryl that is a great idea. I am sure they would get many requests for cards.
    A company like https://www.drivethrucards.com/ can handle the printing and even provide tuck boxes or plastic boxes as an option. I've got a deck from them and it's every bit as good as a deck of playing cards I'd buy in the store.

    (I'm not trying to shill just for them; I'm sure there are other companies that do the same thing.)

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    I make my own and get them printed by BoardGamesMaker.
    So how many books are in your personal library?

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    One of every skill card in the game looks like this:

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    PS: Home printed and sleeved using the printer/ink friendly format.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    A query, as the BoardGameGeek Store have Martian skill cards, and this seems like a great way to have skills recognised. Would Oberst Hajj be able to stock something like that?

    https://boardgamegeekstore.com/produ...an-skill-cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptMoonbeam View Post
    A query, as the BoardGameGeek Store have Martian skill cards, and this seems like a great way to have skills recognised. Would Oberst Hajj be able to stock something like that?

    https://boardgamegeekstore.com/produ...an-skill-cards
    Ares sent me a small stack of those as part of a promotion they had going, but I don't think they are a regular product. They don't seem to have a product code. I've just been including one with some of my orders as promos. If you want one, just put it in the notes on your next order and I'll send you one. This goes for anyone as long as I have supplies.

    That said, I'm off line until 1 Dec so you can't order until then

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