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    Well finally finished these. I had the decals for the 105 Squadron (MISCMINI) and when I looked up that squadron I found that they had Battles in 39-40 so here are my 105 Sqdrn Battles.

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    Models are AIM (Dave), decals by MISCMINI (Kevin) and prop disks from the Aerodrome Store (our own CMDR Keith).
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    Then they upgraded to Blenheims so here they are.

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    Then in the OSPREY book I have that shows one that was in coastal command so painted that way.

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    And all three Blenheim's together. Again AIM models and MISCMINI decals. Have to put the props on.

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    And last month I did the Mosquito bombers so here is a photo of them.

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    And a photo of the Battle,Blenheim & Mosquito. So my 105 Squadron planes from 39 to 45.

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    Finishing some projects before taking a break. These are 1/144th scale models. The Me-262s are Eduard kits. The Ms.406s are 3D prints made from the material formerly known as FUD. The Re.2000s are 3D prints made from the material formerly known as WSF. I used the kit decals on the Me-262s. Decals for the Ms.406s and Re.2000s are from my decal line. https://miscmini.com/shop?olsPage=t%...als-1144-scale Kevin
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    Lovely work, you two! Really liking the whole 105 Sqn assembly here, Bob and especially your Re2000s in Hungarian markings, Kevin

    Thanks for the continued inspiration!

    I have three D&D Griffons I am working on for a Jasta Greif game I hope to run at Origins next year...I shall show pictures as I get into the project a bit more. At this stage of the game they are cut off their bases and the flash has been trimmed up a bit...on to mounting and painting soon (I hope...)

    All the best,
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    I'm still working on Fritz Rumey's double-coiled Albatros D.V
    It seems after many tries I have the decals finally figured out

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    Quote Originally Posted by miscmini View Post
    Finishing some projects before taking a break. These are 1/144th scale models. The Me-262s are Eduard kits. The Ms.406s are 3D prints made from the material formerly known as FUD. The Re.2000s are 3D prints made from the material formerly known as WSF. I used the kit decals on the Me-262s. Decals for the Ms.406s and Re.2000s are from my decal line. https://miscmini.com/shop?olsPage=t%...als-1144-scale Kevin
    Well done on the camouflage, It looks great!

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    Just got a couple of Condors from AIM (as well as some He219s and Ta152s), which will go to the top of my painting schedule. Here's a couple of pics showing the AIM one alongside my Del Prado Condor in the same scale. The AIM one is noticeably 'tubbier' than Del Prado's. I intend to paint one up as a Luftwaffe maritime reconnaissance/bomber, and butcher the other in to a Lufthansa variant.



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    I'm supposed to be working on a card for the FW.200, but it is getting lost in other activities.

    Last night, I was out at the Y2K Spitfire Gala, in the company of some awesome people, including the Guest of Honour, W/C James 'Stocky' Edwards, DFC and Bar, DFM, etc. And these two guys:

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    The Vintage Wings Roseland Spitfire (back left) and the Historic Flight Foundation's Czech Spitfire (front right). And I hope to have the video of the dual engine run up by the weekend.

    Historic Flight.org - Spitfire Mk IXe
    Note: This plane appeared at Duxford in 2015.

    Note: The Y2K Spitfire appeared at Oshkosh this year, and took away a Warbird "Lindy" Award, a "Phoenix" Award, and two Golden Wrenches. Awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Just got a couple of Condors from AIM (as well as some He219s and Ta152s), which will go to the top of my painting schedule. Here's a couple of pics showing the AIM one alongside my Del Prado Condor in the same scale. The AIM one is noticeably 'tubbier' than Del Prado's. I intend to paint one up as a Luftwaffe maritime reconnaissance/bomber, and butcher the other in to a Lufthansa variant.


    Must get myself one of those for my North cape convoy game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    I'm supposed to be working on a card for the FW.200, but it is getting lost in other activities.

    Last night, I was out at the Y2K Spitfire Gala, in the company of some awesome people, including the Guest of Honour, W/C James 'Stocky' Edwards, DFC and Bar, DFM, etc. And these two guys:

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    Note: This plane appeared at Duxford in 2015.

    Note: The Y2K Spitfire appeared at Oshkosh this year, and took away a Warbird "Lindy" Award, a "Phoenix" Award, and two Golden Wrenches. Awesome!
    What a superb photograph Mike, and W/C James 'Stocky' Edwards, DFC and Bar, DFM, as well!
    You lucky chap.
    Rob.
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    Back when Dave was working on the Mosquito he asked of any other planes some might want. The Fw 200 was my wish and he came through. Glad to see others are getting them and support what Dave (AIM) and Kevin (MISCMINI) are doing for models and decals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Just got a couple of Condors from AIM (as well as some He219s and Ta152s), which will go to the top of my painting schedule. Here's a couple of pics showing the AIM one alongside my Del Prado Condor in the same scale. The AIM one is noticeably 'tubbier' than Del Prado's. I intend to paint one up as a Luftwaffe maritime reconnaissance/bomber, and butcher the other in to a Lufthansa variant.



    Oh yeh, stats...................umm..........forgot?
    Karl
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    First cut of a Condor card. All stats are placeholders until the statsmeister produces the official unofficial ones .

    Comments on fire arcs appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    First cut of a Condor card. All stats are placeholders until the statsmeister produces the official unofficial ones .

    Comments on fire arcs appreciated.

    I really like this card. It would save me a bunch of work.

    For the aft dorsal turret (3), it appears to be similar to the He.111 B-Stand, so it would have a full 360 degree above (white octogon), and a much wider on-level arc. The tail would still block a wide swath of this position on-level.

    See the videos for the He.111 on You Tube for reference. He 111 Top Gunner B Stand

    Also, the on-level gun position dots should be red, with blue 'center of plane/card' and tailing dots. If numbers 1 and 4 are for the ventral guns, they should be gold/yellow. And depending on the variant, the FW.200 could have waist guns on the left and right.
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    Ah! That Condor moment Gunners.
    Rob.
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    Nice card, Steve.
    Did you just give me a new title..........with portfolio.......and responsabilities
    Karl
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    Well, that’s me told then!

    Seriously Mike, very useful info about the gun numbering, wasn’t aware what the different coloured hexes were for. And if I hadn’t seen the video I would not have thought it was possible to bring the gun to bear in the forward arc given the size of the hood. Bet it was a bit windy when the gunner tried it.

    Back to the jolly old drawing board...
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    Sounds good to me Karl
    Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Nice card, Steve.
    Did you just give me a new title..........with portfolio.......and responsabilities
    Karl
    Might have..
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    Ah well, as long as I get my stipend

    Interesting video; I could go with 180 level to high, 360 high, and a standard BS for the tail for the rear dorsal gun.
    The ventral gun (#3) FW's Uncle Ted gives it a standard rear arc (5-7 O'clock). I'm thinking more like 4-8, but no more, low only.
    Front gun......I'd go with the standard front arc, low only.
    Top turret, 360 level to high (it rides a good bit above the engines), with a smaller BS for the tail.
    C-3s with the side guns......3-5 O'clock and 7-9 O'clock high to low.

    I'll get back with stats.....maybe after dinner.
    Karl
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    Note: The front gondola gun was sometimes a 20 mm MG 151 cannon, so C/A
    Karl
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    And here's your stats:
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...458#post481458

    Bed time now: work tomorrow after being off the last week.
    Karl
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    This any better?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    This any better?



    Steve,
    I now try to emulate this card, for complicated bombers:

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    Note that there are two coloured octagons on the dorsal turret. The red centered one on the arc indicating (I beleive) the on-level arc, and the white centered one on the position, indicating the upper 360 degree arc.

    For ventral arcs, I use this guide:
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    This card shows short and long ranges for ventral turrets, because I believe they could actually hit targets on-level.
    I beleive they only show a short range arc on these guns, as they are shooting at planes one altitude down. However, that doesn't take into account that some ventral turrets can shoot on-level, like the chin turret on B-17Gs or B-29s. Not sure what to do with that.

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    There were turrets with casters on rods on the front of the turrets, to keep them from shooting into the plane. So, they had a limited amount of depression, enough to hit their own plane, if not careful. Using this card, shooting at a plane one altitude below, one has to remember that any hits are at long range damage at half a ruler range.
    I didn't put on-level arcs on this plane, as it was too confusing. Users will have to judge on their own which turret could hit a target. On-level, technically, any target could be hit by any turret.

    PS: On this plane, due to the way that turret controllers could use more than one turret, and to get any sense out of the management card, I numbered the gun positions differently. All on-level and dorsal guns should be numbered consecutively, followed by ventral guns. I just couldn't get the management card and the plane card to work together with that configuration, and allow for the controllers to be identifed with their respective turrets (shown on the management card {OldGuy59's WWII US Bombers Album - B-29A Superfortress Management Card} to reduce clutter on the plane card).
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    Fritz Rumey's Albatros D.V ... almost done

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    Not really the thread for this, but:
    On ventral guns, Mike, I would not let the ones like the He.111 nor the Fw.200 shoot level. A true turret could (probably), but not those.
    The dustbin gun on the Ju.52 "bombers" probably could also, as they stuck far enough down to get the angle.
    Karl
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    Looking good Ezekiel.
    Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Not really the thread for this, but:
    On ventral guns, Mike, I would not let the ones like the He.111 nor the Fw.200 shoot level. A true turret could (probably), but not those.
    The dustbin gun on the Ju.52 "bombers" probably could also, as they stuck far enough down to get the angle.
    Karl
    Steve, we should move the FW.200 discussion to this thread: FW.200 Condor Stats
    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Steve,
    I now try to emulate this card, for complicated bombers:

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    Note that there are two coloured octagons on the dorsal turret. The red centered one on the arc indicating (I beleive) the on-level arc, and the white centered one on the position, indicating the upper 360 degree arc.

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    This card shows short and long ranges for ventral turrets, because I believe they could actually hit targets on-level.
    I beleive they only show a short range arc on these guns, as they are shooting at planes one altitude down. However, that doesn't take into account that some ventral turrets can shoot on-level, like the chin turret on B-17Gs or B-29s. Not sure what to do with that.

    This is what I ended up with on one of my cards:
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    I’ll There were turrets with casters on rods on the front of the turrets, to keep them from shooting into the plane. So, they had a limited amount of depression, enough to hit their own plane, if not careful. Using this card, shooting at a plane one altitude below, one has to remember that any hits are at long range damage at half a ruler range.
    I didn't put on-level arcs on this plane, as it was too confusing. Users will have to judge on their own which turret could hit a target. On-level, technically, any target could be hit by any turret.

    PS: On this plane, due to the way that turret controllers could use more than one turret, and to get any sense out of the management card, I numbered the gun positions differently. All on-level and dorsal guns should be numbered consecutively, followed by ventral guns. I just couldn't get the management card and the plane card to work together with that configuration, and allow for the controllers to be identifed with their respective turrets (shown on the management card {OldGuy59's WWII US Bombers Album - B-29A Superfortress Management Card} to reduce clutter on the plane card).
    Must be a bit hard of thinking - had the B25 card in front of me but didn’t twig that the turret had two octagons. That makes sense. Also had the Heinkel card too, but that just confused the hell out of me OK, re-think part deux.

    Also with the dorsal/ventral gun configuration on the Condor, there seemed to be no blind spots, disregarding the limiting arcs to stop them shooting the tail off. Agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Must be a bit hard of thinking - had the B25 card in front of me but didn’t twig that the turret had two octagons. That makes sense. Also had the Heinkel card too, but that just confused the hell out of me OK, re-think part deux.

    Also with the dorsal/ventral gun configuration on the Condor, there seemed to be no blind spots, disregarding the limiting arcs to stop them shooting the tail off. Agree?
    Steve, I'm trying to be consistent, with things that really aren't the same. Ares seems to be developing, as new planes arrive, as well. References don't agree, to boot, making any attempt to match historical accounts and published stats questionable. Then, we are trying to get all that to conform to this game's mechanics, and make it easy and playable.

    Go with what seems good to you, and we'll see what comes out on the official card sometime in the future. I'm hoping they copy all our brain straining, but they'll probably put out something different so they don't have to pay us consulting fees.
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    So I finally decided to try these Valom kits that I've read about. They should come with a "R>75y/o rating"! It gets tough on these old eyes to get all those small parts together, but I wanted to do a couple of Nieuport 11's for some of the old Watch Your Back cards. I eventually decided to do Tieffry's N-11 despite the fact that it was not in the cards, but since my heritage is 50% Belgian, it was just too much of a temptation. So, I'll have to figure out how to do a card for him, but can just scan Buzio's from WYB. Without any pride of workmanship and with the epoxy blobs (reasonably hidden in the photos) that keep the wings hopefully sturdy enough for table play, here's what the bench looks like after returning home from Gencon and getting a start on these:
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    I know what you mean about the eyes. I have 1/72 armor kits I built years ago but the new kits have such small parts so I would rather sell them then try to build them. Looks like you are doing good on the planes though.

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    A few things:

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    The last vehicle conversion for Simon's US Airborne forces, 120+ figures.

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    What a Tanker practice demo game....up close and personal (Both US tanks were taken out next go)
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    Oh....and I forgot Simon's British too:

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    Bloody hell - thats not a hobby its a full time job - really well done Neil

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    Outstanding work. You all make me envious of your work.

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    Just checked out the What a Tanker site. Looks good and it takes in different scales. I have many 1/72 armor and picked up a few 10mm models. I might have invest in those rules. Thanks for posting to photos and the name of the game.

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    You're a whirling dervish with these, Neil! What lovely work - Simon has to be chuffed about all these lovely bits and bobs...

    I had not heard of the 'What a Tank' game system - I have been focusing on 'Tanks' - I will have to give it a look-see...

    All the best,
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    Game report and hopefully a You Tube video of game at show will follow.

    Also might do a quick how to play video and game report.

    Neil
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    Nice job Neil. Do the rules work well?
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    That little lot is certainly worthy of some rep Neil.
    Wot!! a tank load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Nice job Neil. Do the rules work well?
    For a quick fun and frustrating game yes. Want loads of realism....Infantry and all the rest no. It's purely tank v tank. With lots of choices.
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    Looks like fun - the local club used to run a 'Tiger Hunt' game many years ago using 1/35th kit - looks like it may play along similar lines.

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    All projects on hold while doing a complete remodel of the bedroom/man cave.

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    What scale John?

    Quote Originally Posted by john snelling View Post
    All projects on hold while doing a complete remodel of the bedroom/man cave.
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    My latest painting project, and only has something to do with hobbies, except as it impacts my ability to work on graphics, and spend time painting anything else.

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    This is what my home office looks like this afternoon, with all the computers and network gear in a pile in the garage. Depending on when the second coat and trim are done, I'll be building some custom furniture and shelves to rebuild our 'work' stations. Then, I'll be back to graphics and hobby painting.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    What scale John?
    It is 13x17ft, 1 to 1 scale. I wish it was 1 to 10 scale.
    Decided on a German underwing blue.
    Got get it done.

    Cheers, John

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