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    After a couple of balloons, now it's time to try something heavier than air.

    So I take my copy of "Flight of the Giants" looking for something big.
    My first attempt with a small airplane doesn't satisfy me too much.
    My Ansaldo A1 is too thin and fragile (link).

    Caproni Ca.40 appears a good choice: it's big enough, ...and Italian

    So I started from here:

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    I opened the image with the great free software Inkscape and I vectorize the bitmap with only few click.
    Than I imported in Rhino and rescale. After a bit patience...

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    It's time to prepare for the print in two version: assembled and disassembled.

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    I'm testing the first way. If it will be ok I think that could be better and easier to print:

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    Now it's working. I keep you tuned.

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    utterly gobsmacked, I can't wait to see pics of the finished beast!

    Lest we forget

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    Impressive Dino.

    Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"

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    Noooo ! I crashed the Caproni Ca.40 removing the supports !!!

    One more time, it is a bit too delicate, but before start to redraw it, I'd like to test a "separate print" (the disassembled version).
    I promise: if it is just printable I'll share the file with all the community.

    At the beginning, I was really next to put all in trash, but I know, I need a lot of exercise with the paintbrush.
    So ....

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    Here's a comparison with the little brother Ca.3.
    You have to use a lot of fantasy to immagine a good model
    ...the propellers are still missing....

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    Please, be patient..... The next one could only be better !

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    Never let a bad model or unused bits go into the trash. You never know what you might do with them.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Nice "recovery" with the bad one! That will be much fun to swap in when the good Ca.40 goes down.

    As a Shapeways modeler, I'm curious: what are the minimum wall thicknesses and wire thicknesses (like a strut) with that printer? How hard is it to remove the supporting material?

    (Shapeways has a black acrylate material that looks similar, but I'd never trust an untrained person to tell a support-structure from a wing strut that is supposed to be there.)

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    My printer is a really cheap one. Less than 500 €.
    I use also cheap material (PLA) for the first tests: 48€ in a big roll of 2.3kg.

    For these reasons I print wings no thinner than 1 mm in the middle. But the theorically step in Z is 0.1 mm,
    so the wing-profile is really thin !

    Concerning the vertical structures I tryed 0.75 mm, but is not a good idea.
    At every layer the printer have to be really precise in movement to put another 0,1 mm on every columns,
    So I have two different way:
    1. print the structures separated, in horizontal. But I have to mark the position on the wings to facilitate the assembly operation.
    2. redraw biggest supports (1 mm could be ok). I have to double check the size of the Caproni Ca.3 ones.

    Concerning the support, I use Simplify 3D a really good software, in my opinion, because have a incredibly fine tuning parameters:
    - Support infill percentage is reduced at 20%.
    - The extra inflation distance is 0,30 mm.
    - I combine supports every two layers only.

    I print the airplanes slowly : 45mm/s raising a bit the temperature respect the suggested (210 °C instead of 200 °C).

    I'd like to keep the models light, so the infill is 10% only, with grid rectilinear and 25% outiline overlap.
    For this reason I raise the top and bottom solid layers at level 6. The outline/perimeter shell is 3.
    To keep the surfaces smooth I prefer a inside-out direction.

    I hope that my experience with all this boring settings could be useful !
    All are empirical, so I'm open to suggestion to improve them.

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    Nice project.

    Delicate thing this 3D printing.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Update: I'm next to the goal.
    Stay tuned !

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    That is strange !
    After few weeks, I noticed that my post last was lost....

    Here's some photo....

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    I hope you like it.

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    The most difficoult parts are the rudders and the propellers.

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    It is not difficoult to glue. I print a tool to allign the wings separators:

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    Next step: the crew !

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    I keep my first attempt for scenario...

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    Enjoy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by comPVter View Post

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    Enjoy !
    I love the comparison. Great for scenarios.

    Sometimes our first mistake leaves us with something awesome!

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    Could be a "crash landed" sceanrio, too.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Great job.
    Looks fantastic!

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    Somehow missed this back in October; glad I looked now.

    Bang-up job on the second go-around. That's exactly why we make mistakes the first time around.

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    Very impressive. I couldn't even begin to think about such a project, let alone complete it. Congratulations Dino

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    If you like the model,

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    you can download and try to print it out for free

    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2606935

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    Ciao !

    Have a look at this masterpiece:

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    I found the picture here: http://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/5790900.html
    It's the Caproni Ca.43 in hydro version with torpedo.

    I really love it !

    It could be my next work :-D

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    That's a work of art - What a remarkable beast !

    Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by comPVter View Post
    Ciao !

    Have a look at this masterpiece:

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    I found the picture here: http://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/5790900.html
    It's the Caproni Ca.43 in hydro version with torpedo.

    I really love it !

    It could be my next work :-D
    That. Is. Incredible. Thanks for the link. Amazing work!

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    That is nothing short of amazing.

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    Absolutely stunning Thanks for sharing



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