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    My turn to post a WW1 picture - a Sopwith Snipe on the tarmac at Point Cook airfield in Victoria, Australia and another of the Snipe lined up next to the RAAF's Sopwith Pup replica as dawn breaks over the field.

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    I really have to get down there one of these days.

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    Nothing like that close to me . Thanks for posting

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    They're looking good Carl

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Very nice photos. Always good to see what others find and post.

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    Just - Wow !! thanks for sharing

    Never knowingly under gunned !

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    Interesting to see the design evolution.

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    Gorgeous stuff, Carl - great shots!

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Very nice. But oh so far away!
    Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm. Winston S. Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Interesting to see the design evolution.
    Conflict is a great motivator for many things, technological advances being just one.

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    Very nostalgic, Carl! Do they both fly?

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    Very sweet pics Carl!
    I think the Boxkite is still at Point Cook as well.

    "Its a fine line indeed between going out in a Blaze of Glory or having Crashed & Burnt!"
    Member Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Very nostalgic, Carl! Do they both fly?
    Yes David, both are airworthy.

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    Eleven Pups were supplied to the Australian Flying Corps as part of the Imperial Gift at the end of WW1. Upon formation of the RAAF in 1921, these aircraft were allotted to No 1 Flying Training School at Point Cook for use as intermediate fighter trainers until 1930. This replica Pup built in 1979 is finished in the scheme of one of those 1FTS trainers.

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    The Sopwith Snipe replica was ex airline pilot Nick Caudwell's retirement project. The Snipe is fitted with a W670 7 cylinder radial engine, in place of the almost impossible to obtain Bentley BR2 rotary. This engine is pretty much the perfect size both in diameter and depth and about the same power as the Bentley. The aircraft is painted in the colours of Elywn Roy “Bo” King of No.4 Squadron AFC, giving appropriate recognition to the highest scoring Snipe ace.

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    Nice planes Carl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Interesting to see the design evolution.
    Indeed; in many ways, the pup was a sport plane: easy to fly and rather forgiving while still being quite maneuverable.
    The Snipe was an up-powered Camel, and a brute of a fighter. Perhaps not as difficult to fly as it's predecessor, but not an easy one either, from what I've read.
    I will bet the radial makes handling a bit easier, at least.
    Nice tribute colors for the snipe, BTW.
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Indeed; in many ways, the pup was a sport plane: easy to fly and rather forgiving while still being quite maneuverable.
    The Snipe was an up-powered Camel, and a brute of a fighter. Perhaps not as difficult to fly as it's predecessor, but not an easy one either, from what I've read.
    I will bet the radial makes handling a bit easier, at least.
    I was referring mainly to visible stuff. The Pup transfers a bit harshly from circular cowling to squared-off fuselage, while the Snipe is all curves. The Pup has no mass-balances visible on the ailerons; the Snipe's upper-aileron balances are obvious. That sort of thing.

    The radial will definitely make it easier to fly -- gyroscopic forces from the rotary were a pain. (Next month's _Flying_ has an article on how rotary engines may have influenced traffic patterns....)



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