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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    If Ares find there are a great many Fonck SPAD XIII's and Weber's Albatros D.V's left unallocated, I wonder whether we may see a new version of one of the two-plane introductory packs? Alternatively, they could just sell them as singles, of course.
    Andrea has mentioned that there is a series 1 reprint in the offing as well as series 4 - so I imagine that these 4 will be part of that series 1 re-release. The question therefore should be whose planes will the other 8 be modelled on ?

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Andrea has mentioned that there is a series 1 reprint in the offing as well as series 4 - so I imagine that these 4 will be part of that series 1 re-release. The question therefore should be whose planes will the other 8 be modelled on ?
    I was thinking that they might be producing a new Delux starter set, but a Series 1 reprint would be even better! Here's hoping we finally get a Jacobs Tripe!

    If Andrea said this, we need a new thread to discuss...

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    Hmm, new deluxe stater set. Plus the reprints of Series 1, 4 and balloons makes me wish I had waited. I could have saved a lot of money.

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    Just curious. If I get the Second Invasion, since it comes with 5 planes do you think I could sell the planes to off-set getting the Martians and extra decks and counters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken at Sunrise View Post
    Just curious. If I get the Second Invasion, since it comes with 5 planes do you think I could sell the planes to off-set getting the Martians and extra decks and counters?
    I suppose so... the MvR triplane is a new print, as are the two N.16s. Additionally, both the Weber D.Va and the Fonck S.XIII have been difficult to find and/or way over-priced for some time now. My only concern is that Ball's N.16 and the D.Va and SPAD (and maybe the Dr.I?) will be available for retail sale... so you might be competing in an unfavorable market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalfonzo View Post
    I was thinking that they might be producing a new Delux starter set, but a Series 1 reprint would be even better! Here's hoping we finally get a Jacobs Tripe!

    If Andrea said this, we need a new thread to discuss...
    Well here it is from post 34 of this thread https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...e-of-this-site , I have highlighted the interesting bits.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Angiolillo View Post
    Please have a look to add-ons and to stretch goals. You can notice Ball's Ni.16 - perfectly historical. And Kissenberth Camel - historical too. I guess that more will be seen, if the Kickstarter progresses well. They will be not printed on their own, it would not be worth. They are hints that together with the Tripods, at the same time, there will be reprints of Ni.16 and balloons, and of the whole Series 1 with - as ever - both old and new schemes. Sideby effects of the campaign that will immediately benefit historic players. T&T adds new strenght to the Wings of Glory team (as two world-famed designers) and new strenght and visibility to the line.
    Besides, reprints of the DH2/Morane/E.III/Halberstadt series is on the way too, and the Campaign pack that will give them more sense is in the final stages of editing. Some trust please, and you will see fruits of this all even on 100% historic tables.
    So reprints of WW1 series 1, 4, 5, Balloons; Tripods & a new campaign pack next year ? Phew !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken at Sunrise View Post
    Hmm, new deluxe stater set. Plus the reprints of Series 1, 4 and balloons makes me wish I had waited. I could have saved a lot of money.
    Don't get too excited this is still just hopeful thinking, I would wait to see the official news on all of this, we have been misled before by folks who make suppositions and then disappointment follows . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fast.git View Post
    I suppose so... the MvR triplane is a new print, as are the two N.16s. Additionally, both the Weber D.Va and the Fonck S.XIII have been difficult to find and/or way over-priced for some time now. My only concern is that Ball's N.16 and the D.Va and SPAD (and maybe the Dr.I?) will be available for retail sale... so you might be competing in an unfavorable market.
    I have about as much storage for planes and I can right now. Just room for a few more and space for Series Four. Sigh... The Martian models look like a nice diversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    Don't get too excited this is still just hopeful thinking, I would wait to see the official news on all of this, we have been misled before by folks who make suppositions and then disappointment follows . . .
    The deluxe starter set is supposition, everything else has been brought up by Andrea, whether it all arrives next year is also supposition

    "He is wise who watches"

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    The Kickstarter has nearly hit $100k and the Red Baron's Last Triplane stretch goal has been achieved. Huzzah!

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    I love playing the Dr.1 in WoG and while I have all the other MvR tripes already, I certainly don't mind having this one, too.

    Very stoked to see how well this KS has done, it's far exceeded my apparently far too modest expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfimp View Post
    The Kickstarter has nearly hit $100k and the Red Baron's Last Triplane stretch goal has been achieved. Huzzah!

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    I love playing the Dr.1 in WoG and while I have all the other MvR tripes already, I certainly don't mind having this one, too.

    Very stoked to see how well this KS has done, it's far exceeded my apparently far too modest expectations.
    The MvR pack will have to be double-sized to hold all the Ace Skill cards.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    I am VERY happy and excited about the mini and how the campaign turned out. Glory to ARES' Martians!
    <img src=http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2554&dateline=1409073309 border=0 alt= />
    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    I am VERY happy and excited about the mini and how the campaign turned out. Glory to ARES' Martians!
    I have to agree, Andy. It turned out better than I thought it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    I am VERY happy and excited about the mini and how the campaign turned out. Glory to ARES' Martians!
    Yes, a lot of good will come from this campaign. New frontiers and new players. With word on more reprints 2018 is looking good. Expensive, but very good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    The MvR pack will have to be double-sized to hold all the Ace Skill cards.
    Eeek! He will have them all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    . Expensive, but very good!
    Oh, yeah...a glass of single malt to the rescue...
    But I can not wait to field those dreadful tripods on my gaming table.
    <img src=http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2554&dateline=1409073309 border=0 alt= />
    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

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    Is it possible to change from Invasion to Second Invasion?
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

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    Hmmm, so the N.16 schemes will (supposition) also appear in the balloon reprints, and the other schemes in the Series 1 reprint. Very nice! It seems the rest of the bits will be available over the counter in game shops next year as well. Is anything a true KS-only exclusive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalfonzo View Post
    Hmmm, so the N.16 schemes will (supposition) also appear in the balloon reprints, and the other schemes in the Series 1 reprint. Very nice! It seems the rest of the bits will be available over the counter in game shops next year as well. Is anything a true KS-only exclusive?
    Not this time, the planes are separate. Some have already been released this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fast.git View Post
    I suppose so... the MvR triplane is a new print, as are the two N.16s. Additionally, both the Weber D.Va and the Fonck S.XIII have been difficult to find and/or way over-priced for some time now. My only concern is that Ball's N.16 and the D.Va and SPAD (and maybe the Dr.I?) will be available for retail sale... so you might be competing in an unfavorable market.
    I think I might actually have an extra Fonck, maybe I should have sold it.

  21. #671

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Is it possible to change from Invasion to Second Invasion?
    Yes, it is easy via pledge manager. I did it - no problem.
    <img src=http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=2554&dateline=1409073309 border=0 alt= />
    "We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."

  22. #672

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    HHMMMM...Stuka with the wing cannon pods, P-39 Aircobra with the 37mm in the nose, ME 262 with the 20 mms...yep...lots of Cannon armed WWII aircraft.
    Hs129 with one of the underfuselage cannons (Mk. 101; Mk. 103; BK 3,7).

    Then there's "hypothetical" or post-WW2 designs -- DH98 "Tsetse Fly" (57mm cannon -- "if it bites you, you end up taking a permanent nap"); or the Germans developing a "gunsnout" version of one of its twin-engine light bombers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalfonzo View Post
    Hmmm, so the N.16 schemes will (supposition) also appear in the balloon reprints, and the other schemes in the Series 1 reprint. Very nice! It seems the rest of the bits will be available over the counter in game shops next year as well. Is anything a true KS-only exclusive?
    I'm not certain this is completely true... I can't recall exactly, but I thought Ares claimed that the Ball N.16 would definitely be offered for retail sales post-KS, but I can't remember if that included Navarre's kite. As for the balloon reprints, I seem to remember something about the balloons being sold without aircraft...

    ...'course, that could just me being daft.

    I'll see if I can track down that info.

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    That's my understanding as well Christopher.

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    It's a bit hard to understand how the N.16 will otherwise be released. It doesn't fit in a regular series, only as a special one-off with the balloons and now Tripods. I can't see a single fighter being offered on its own. If not with the balloons then how?

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    Since the balloons are being reprinted soon, I think that there is a good case for the Albatros D.V flown by Friedrich Ritter von Roth, Germany's top balloon busting ace, to be included in the series 1 reprint. Also, it has quite an attractive colour scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Since the balloons are being reprinted soon, I think that there is a good case for the Albatros D.V flown by Friedrich Ritter von Roth, Germany's top balloon busting ace, to be included in the series 1 reprint. Also, it has quite an attractive colour scheme.
    Nah .... that would make too much sense!


    I wish they had given us something other than Weber - I already have 3 (all acquired from the secondary market)
    Fonck I can live with, even though I have 2 already (as above)

    Guess I will have to sharpen my repaint skills (or hire somebody)

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    Quote Originally Posted by csadn View Post
    Hs129 with one of the underfuselage cannons (Mk. 101; Mk. 103; BK 3,7).

    Then there's "hypothetical" or post-WW2 designs -- DH98 "Tsetse Fly" (57mm cannon -- "if it bites you, you end up taking a permanent nap"); or the Germans developing a "gunsnout" version of one of its twin-engine light bombers....
    Nothing hypothetical about the Tsetse - operational in March 1944, shown to be good against ships, submarines and aircraft. Were you thinking of the 96mm gun armed version (one of which was built and flown, and the gun test fired)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalfonzo View Post
    It's a bit hard to understand how the N.16 will otherwise be released. It doesn't fit in a regular series, only as a special one-off with the balloons and now Tripods. I can't see a single fighter being offered on its own. If not with the balloons then how?
    Not sure. But the Ball N.16 isn't a part of the T&T base set... so it's being released on its own (w/o balloon).

    Quote Originally Posted by Naharaht View Post
    Since the balloons are being reprinted soon, I think that there is a good case for the Albatros D.V flown by Friedrich Ritter von Roth, Germany's top balloon busting ace, to be included in the series 1 reprint. Also, it has quite an attractive colour scheme.
    Totally agree. That would be a perfect fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    Yes, it is easy via pledge manager. I did it - no problem.
    Thank you, my friend.

    Changed to Second Invasion - extra Tripod damage deck - extra Tripod counters & extra Ball.

    181 $ + shipping cost to Europe

    Great KS project.

    Specially happy about Kissenbert & the Baron.
    Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  31. #681

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    Yes, mee too. A great many things we are gonna get. I increased my SI as well to have 2 tipods each. And Kissenbert + MvR are superspecial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fast.git View Post
    Not sure. But the Ball N.16 isn't a part of the T&T base set... so it's being released on its own (w/o balloon).

    Is the idea balloons are coming without planes really confirmed? Or was that an earlier possibility subject to change?

    I just don't see Ares offering cases of Ball singles to distributers.

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    Yes, I think Andrea and Roberto have both confirmed this

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenalfonzo View Post
    I just don't see Ares offering cases of Ball singles to distributers.
    You might be right... maybe they're going to offer a mini series of 3 different N.16 options? We've already seen Navarre and Ball...

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    [QUOTE=Naharaht;462997]I think that there is a good case for the Albatros D.V flown by Friedrich Ritter von Roth, Germany's top balloon busting ace, to be included in the series 1 reprint. Also, it has quite an attractive colour scheme./QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Nothing hypothetical about the Tsetse - operational in March 1944, shown to be good against ships, submarines and aircraft. Were you thinking of the 96mm gun armed version (one of which was built and flown, and the gun test fired)?
    No -- I was referring to the 57mm, which (thanks to the fact that most web-search engines are Utter Rubbish) I cannot find any deployment history in WW2 for....

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    Operated in small numbers by No. 248, 254 Squadrons, and a Special Detachment of No. 618 Squadron, as part of the Portreath and Banff Strike Wings if that helps your search Chris.
    https://shortfinals.wordpress.com/20...in-the-tsetse/

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Chris, here'some good footage of the Tsetse and interviews with aircrew who flew them, found after about 10 seconds of Googling....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX-IxiZyGRk

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    Here's another 10 secondsworth of searching...

    http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...ito_XVIII.html

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    Oh, and for info the Molins 6pdr was also widely used on RN coastal forces craft in the mid to late war. Fairmile 'D's in particular often carried one forward, they were also fitted to a number of 72' and 73' craft. Unlike the Tsetse and land based applications which invariably used AP rounds they generally used HE , which were highly effective against enemy coastal craft (I have an interesting report from 1944 on its effects against typical targets, a report that we have only recently dusted off to remind people ow to deal with similar targets). There was also a 4.5" weapon developed on the strengths of the 57mm which gave CF craft an even bigger punch, although being a low velocity round its range was a bit less than desired. Nonetheless it served into the 1950s on MTBs and gunboats.

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    And of course there was also Roy Cross' excellent artwork from the Airfix mosquito box from the 1970s. My brother made a 6pdr armed MkXVIII as well as an NF.II I think he still has them in his collection. Lovely models.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    And of course there was also Roy Cross' excellent artwork from the Airfix mosquito box from the 1970s.
    Very nice!

    Would love to fly one of those... (I'm looking at you, Ares...)

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    Very interesting Dave.
    I must re equip my Mozzies.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Also useful against aircraft - a Mk XVIII blew the wing off a Ju88 with a 57mm hit during a maritime strike op in March 1944 (1o Ju-88s defending a U boat and four destroyers, four 88s shot down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Chris, here'some good footage of the Tsetse and interviews with aircrew who flew them, found after about 10 seconds of Googling....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX-IxiZyGRk
    This (and the others) do not turn up in any of my uses of Google. All I get is a raft of papers on research into curing bug bites.

  46. #696

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    Looks like this is forbidden knowledge where you are. Sure you do t live in Pyongyang?

  47. #697

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    No. It's just Oregon. Been there, escaped from there. Any word on finalizing our KS orders or is it too soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    No. It's just Oregon. Been there, escaped from there. Any word on finalizing our KS orders or is it too soon?
    Nah it's just Chris having a laugh. ...

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    Either that or he needs lessons in how to Google

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    Which other planes would people like to see in the series 1 reprint? This is quite a colourful one.

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    Josef Jacobs Dr.1. Considered the top ace of the triplane, and flew them all the way to the end of the war.

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    Helmut Dilthey D.Va. Commander of Jasta 40 and awesome scheme:

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