We will have the planes, I just hope this push also brings in the new players to push them around the table!Originally Posted by Teaticket
I will be running games at clubs and shops in my town, I think once the flow of product starts as many of us as are able need to put the word out. Once the minis are on a table they will be hard to resist.
Unfortunately there are no shops around me that I know of that carry the line. I run games at shows as much as possible and lead anyone interested here. My games are usually well attended so I'm sure I have lead my share of souls down the slippery slope. With the new wave of releases available it will be much easier to guide them to the dark side.
hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm no pressure there lol
Holmes, I have the highest admiration for your powers of deduction, but this time you have excelled even yourself.
Spitfires from the Starter Set and the Squadron Pack will be from the 610 Squadron.
109Es from the Starter Set and the Squadron Pack will be from JG2 "Richthofen".
Hurricanes from the Squadron Pack will be from the 303 Squadron.
Stukas from the Squadron Pack will be from St.G77.
Thanks for saving me straining my eyes to see if Mike was right Andrea.
I will buy anything on offer, but if I don't have to re decal it is a bonus thanks.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Hopefully there will be enough for U.K. stockists to take them to shows where we 'Dromers are putting on participation games.
Or usual M.O. in the U.K. Wing is to draw the new punters into a game or two, then send them to the vendors stand to buy rules and minis.
If the vendor has a stack of rule sets and minis, everyone is happy..............................
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
No Kickstarter options?
no accurate release date...June 2016...I think not?
Q4...sweet dreams
Knowing ARES...
and the mash up of the WW1 heavy bombers fiasco
reality check folks....
Probably some time in 2017
still its nice to dream
and that's all for now folks.....
Just looked back through my emails. There are enough historical decals to do 5 Spits and 7 Bf109s.
I already have one friend keen to buy into the game after showing the BoB start pic
Guess I'll have to update my 'to buy' list.
Think like that chaps: buy at least 2 starter sets. One for you and the second one as a gift. I will surely do like this
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
That's a great selection Andrea!
2 starters for me and a third one as a gift! To myself! All kidding aside, this household will buy 2-3 starters and numerous of the regular packs.
At least! I will also be buying them for mates that have so far resisted the urge to commit to Wings of Glory - plastic (and pewter) meth!!
This is all just awsome news, big vote of thanks to Ares. This will massively boost the popularity of the Game when I, and others I think, thought it was flagging. Well done again.
They look stunning
So after the Pacific version, will an Eastern front version come out?Or I guess this approach is only for the reprints..
FW190a's VS La5's with Sturmovik's and Stuka's (white base colour) released on the side.. would be amazing..
Waitaminnit, I thought the singles were going to be squadronmates to the starter birds so we wouldn't have to buy seven or eight starters, just a starter or two and four to six of each single?
Andrea A., can you get us more definitive data on the precise number of marking options for each type, please?
Are there any indications about prices available, please?
Will Ares make sure that these starter sets and plane packs speedily reach all parts of the world where the game is played in sufficient quantities?
Will Ares make sure that the WW2 RAP is reprinted to back up these new releases?
David, the Starter Set release is going to deal the RAP an Ace of Spades--it's being totally discontinued in favor of Starters, at least for a while.
UK pricing plans have probably just gone out of the window after last week's self-destruct unfortunately - I'm expecting individual fighters will jump from Ł11.99 to Ł13.99 in the next few weeks, so the starter set will probably end up in the Ł55-Ł60 ballpark.
Damn, that's a seriously bad idea
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
Is it? Those WW2 rules sets are still available for purchase with Distributors. And they include the rules etc in them, so any of us buying multiples could pass our spare rule sets onto new comers we are wanting to encourage into the game
Pretty Zen Xen . Like your thinking.
I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
Coming down is the hardest thing
But to expand the game, you should have the option of getting the rules from a store. And when the starter sets are gone, then what
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
Forgive me, I am a bit confused. Are the new starter sets not coming with RAP at all? Or is just the current RAP that we all know and love gone? The rules can be downloaded from Ares' site. But what about the all the tokens and the like?
But to expand the game, you should have the option of getting the rules from a store. And when the starter sets are gone, then what
Karl
It sounds like their saying the rule booklet will be in the starter set, just like the old deluxe and Starter sets before.
The issue I have is that they either need to keep starter sets in stock, or there isn't a way of getting new players in with just the "booster" packs.
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
OOOOOOOH these are making me very excited
The Starter is supposed to basically have a full RAP's contents plus planes--two Spits and two 109s.
https://www.facebook.com/WingsOfGlor...68906679795344
October projected release.
As long as all starter sets contain the full RAP this is a good thing. As it has been, you buy the RAP and cannot play. Getting 2 planes with RAP I see is a good thing.
October?
YAY!!!!
Even if that means November to the U.K., then still YAY!!!!
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
There are a couple of shops in Norwich with some WGS still.
Tony.
Can we have a mod move this over to the announcements and upcoming releases area of the forum? The more we can promote this the better and not everyone comes over to the Officer's lounge (although, they should!)
*I really hope this can launch WGS into a whole new level of success. It appears that Ares with the last few series has moved away from the obscure aircraft mistakes of Nexus (ie series II and the WWII biplanes(originally planned as a Nexus release) and have provided iconic aircraft focused on the big five. That being said, I do hope to see more Itailian, Soviet, and other Allied national aircraft in the near future. Not having a Macchi C.202 Folgore, when the games' designers are Italian is an absolute travesty!
Give me a release at some point with the P-39 Aircobra (with one at least in Soviet colors), Oscar, Folgore, and Typhoon, I would happy as a pig in mud....
So imagined if we could continue this trend of themed starter sets. I am thinking of a box with both a B-17 and maybe a Fw-190 Sturmbock included. Typhoon and Fw-190, P-51 and 109G, Corsair and Zero duel packs. Even something *dare I suggest it* like the X-Wing starter box with two Tie Fighters and an X-Wing. But now replace them with two I-16s and a Bf-109F or Two Ki-27s and a P-40. And on occasion still make room for the "also rans", Fokker D.XXI, IAR 80, PZL P.11/P.24, Avia B-534.
A Macchi MC.202 Folgore would be nice indeed! And I like the WW2 biplanes, especially since I'm slowly building up for some North African/Mediterranean sorties.
Buying multiple Starter Sets will only give you multiple copies of the same minis. There are not decals sheets in the starter. Unless you need another rule book and extra counters, most veteran players should only buy a single Starter (save the Starters for new players! Vets looking to increase their mini count with different "paint schemes" should buy 5-7 of the new single Squadron Packs (that's the new name for the old Airplane Pack) for each aircraft type.
So, if you buy one Starter, 5 Spit Squad Packs and 7 Bf109 Squad Packs, you would have a total of 7 different Spits from the 610 Squadron and 9 different Bf109s from JG2 "Richthofen".
No word on pricing yet, but I would expect the Starter set to be about $60~$70 full retail, or about the same as the old Nexus Deluxe sets (that's what these really are after all). Ares sited that the WGS RAP sold very slowly compared to the WGS Rookie Pack (which had a RAP and 4 minis in it). If they are going to try and match that price point, you could see the new Starters in the ~$50 range online.
The RAP as we know it will no longer exist once the current stock sales out.
A voice of reason. Knowing ARES policy so far there is no hope to see them in forseeable future. It seems the company tends to leave all the iconic planes behind the production line in favor of some less popular for reasons I simply can not understand.A Macchi MC.202 Folgore would be nice indeed! And I like the WW2 biplanes, especially since I'm slowly building up for some North African/Mediterranean sorties.
That is why we have (will have) Bf 109K instead of F/G. Me 410 (!) instead of Mossie, Re 2001 instead of Mc 200/202, Lancaster (without night fighting rules) instead of Betty, Fw 190D instead of 190A. Gosh!
I know I am a grumpy old fart on the block. Forgive me, please. I will turn to AIM as usual. But I can not forget Andrea lookin really moved at my AIM outsourced Mc 200 Saettas Italian fighters in Prague last year...
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"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
Consider yourself lucky Andy, at least you can turn to AIM.A voice of reason. Knowing ARES policy so far there is no hope to see them in forseeable future. It seems the company tends to leave all the iconic planes behind the production line in favor of some less popular for reasons I simply can not understand.
That is why we have (will have) Bf 109K instead of F/G. Me 410 (!) instead of Mossie, Re 2001 instead of Mc 200/202, Lancaster (without night fighting rules
I know I am a grumpy old fart on the block. Forgive me, please. I will turn to AIM as usual. But I can not forget Andrea lookin really moved at my AIM outsourced Mc 200 Saettas Italian fighters in Prague last year...
Great news Dennis.A Macchi MC.202 Folgore would be nice indeed! And I like the WW2 biplanes, especially since I'm slowly building up for some North African/Mediterranean sorties.
I am feeling a bit lonely out here in Malta.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Please, UK WingCO: no man is an island, you know
Karl'
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
Please, UK WingCO: no man is an island, you know
Karl'
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
New to the game. Please forgive the stupid question.
I take it "RAP" stands for "Rules and Accessories Pack"?
VERY much looking forward to getting the starter set and several of the "squadron" packs.
Oh, and put me down for a future "Pacific Theater" set.
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Yes you're correct RAP stands for Rules and Accessories Pack. Grab them before they disappear if you can.New to the game. Please forgive the stupid question.
I take it "RAP" stands for "Rules and Accessories Pack"?
VERY much looking forward to getting the starter set and several of the "squadron" packs.
Oh, and put me down for a future "Pacific Theater" set.
But Malta is. :)
So 7 each Stukas and Spits, 9 Bf109s... heard anything about how many legitimate Hurricanes we might see?
And as noted in the other thread, even with seven different ID's we still can't get ONE correct Kette of Stukas... hopefully we'll get at least a correct Rotte of 109s if not a full Schwarm.
Andrea, not quite--Keith's decal scan has ID prefixes for both StG 76 and StG 77, but the "_H" code is only in 77 since KG76 grabbed all the codes and ID's that would have been I Gruppe, StG76. So you've got seven correct Stukas, one possible "never was" and each of them are from a different Staffel.
When you see an acronym unlined in blue dots on the site, hover your mouse of it and it will spell it out for you
Not heard anything on the Hurries. Keep in mind that Ares might have had to go with planes from different Staffel/flights due to limited info. I don't know that to be the case for sure, but I can see it as a valid reason to do multiple Steffels/flights.
Plausible, Boss, but on the other hand once you find the keys it's not that hard to make sense of Luftwaffe markings, so factoring out the frequently-absent Werkenummern it wouldn't be that hard to turn "AC" into Kettemates "BC" or "CC". All we need is a font to match their lettering, color values to match RLM specs and someone with access to design software and a decal printer...
Some sites that taken together helped:
http://users.hol.gr/~nowi/luftcodes/
http://www.rlm.at/cont/archiv02_e.htm
http://www.486th.org/Aircraft/Markings/
https://www.asisbiz.com/Battles/camouflage.html
Different flights in the same Staffel (squadron) are one thing, but you seldom saw aircraft from more than one Staffel operating together IIRC. Like I said, I'll bet it'd be child's play to knock out an add-on sheet of just individual aircraft codes.
So we can have 7 different Spitfires and 9 different Me109's. That is fine for the Me109's considering that a staffel contained 9 aircraft but a squadron of Spitfires could have 12 to 18 aircraft.
While that is the case how many players would you need to field that many aircraft? Often squadrons could not deploy their full complement due to pilot losses or battle damage. And 7 Spits of the same unit is still more than most of us have now.
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