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  1. #51

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    I hadn’t thought of trying grey. I’ll have a look at that option when I do the A6M3’s.

    Thanks for the input and support everyone!

  2. #52

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    I haven't painted any panel lines myself, but when I paint ailerons I try to use an ink in a darker shade of the wing colour, instead of black (unless black is the only colour which shows up!).

    It makes for a much less harsh appearance close up.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  3. #53

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    Yes, maybe I could use some oil paints and create a custom wash color.

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    Here is a bunch of A6M3s. The first group are early planes that were painted in the same scheme as the A6M2s noted above. One is from Tainan Kokutai, and the second is from 251st Kokutai. That tail code for the Tainan Plane (V-176) is homemade. These guys were finished in a historically correct satin finish. All the others are matt.

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    These are some transitional paint schemes when the Japanese realized they needed to apply camo. In the many pictures of these planes that I looked at, it varied widely. Some looked very well painted with nice patterns. Others looked like someone gave a four year old a can of spray paint and said "paint her up sonny boy" to a local. The base colors are exactly as above and I applied the camo by direct airbrush using some very thin paint and a 0.15mm nozzle. I was pretty happy with the way they turned out. Not being an artist, mine look lots like the ones painted by a four year old with a can of spray paint. I can see that with some skill and practice, some very fine patterns and fades can be airbrushed. I plan to play around with this some because it will really help when I move into the big pile of German planes waiting to be done. The camo color was one of my favorites, Mr. Color Dark Green (Mitsubishi), C-124. Decals are Misc Mini out of the box. I thinned it about 3 to 1 with Mr Color leveling thinner. This is great stuff.

    You can also see that some Hinomaru on transitional color schemes were painted with the white outer circle applied, like UI-121. I also noted numerous examples where it looks like they applied a circular mask over the Hinomaru, and then went crazy with the spray paint, like UI-120. I did this by using a circle cutter and some sheet type sticky backed masking tape.

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    Last batch is back to a standard later war color scheme. These were air brushed with Tamiya XF-76 and then the bottoms were masked with putty. Then the upper parts were airbrushed with good old Mr Color Dark Green (Mitsubishi), C-124 as above. It is by far the most accurate color for Mitsubishi aircraft when looking at real color samples. I did the panel lines on one of them using some Tamiya black panel liner. I wanted to try and see if I could get a more subtle panel line than I have been getting with the Flory products I've mentioned previously. The Tamiya product does give a finer line, but I still don't like the way they look when filled in. The AIM models are so detailed that there are too many panel lines. Even when meticulously done, they make the model look dirty, to me. Looking at other AIM models that don't have so much detail, panel lining is very good, IMHO. It is also a must on bombers. I'm just not on board with using it on these zero models. It's all about opinions. What matters most is that I find the time to fly these things.

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    Now, can someone tell my why I've painted 23 zeroes? I actually want to get a few more A6M3s at some point to practice airbrushing them. If I were to do it again right now, they would come out much better just based on my experiences from the two I did.
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    Airbrushing rocks, Dave! Very nice squadron of Zeros. I must agree that the last dark green seems to me the most accurate for that kind of plane. I remember a part of a "Pearl Harbor" Zero I saw at. Imperial War Museum in London: the colour of green was reaaaly dark.
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  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    Airbrushing rocks, Dave! Very nice squadron of Zeros. I must agree that the last dark green seems to me the most accurate for that kind of plane. I remember a part of a "Pearl Harbor" Zero I saw at. Imperial War Museum in London: the colour of green was reaaaly dark.
    Ironic, because at Pearl Harbor the Zekes were still in IJN pale green (grey, almost white)!
    Pieces of a shot-down Zeke are in a museum in Hawaii.

    They are very nicely finished minis, Dave!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  7. #57

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    Yes, the early war zeroes were like the first pair in this post. A very pale grey-green. It was late 42 when they started over-spraying them, and sometime in 43 when they started coming from the factory in all dark green. At least, that is what I can tell from dated pictures. I’m sure some of the much more serious researchers on the site would have a more accurate timeframe.

  8. #58

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    Those are some beautiful planes, Dave!

  9. #59

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    Nice job Dave. Somne of mine have the Tainan Kokutai markings.

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    My newest addition to my air arm. 4x A6M3 from Armaments in Miniature. Painted for the 251st Kokutai while station in Rabaul. Includes the bird flown by Ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa. My first painting attempt at miniatures in over 10 years. Click image for larger version. 

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  11. #61

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    Great job, Kirk! And welcome to the 'drome

  12. #62

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    Well, they'll do!

    Have a bit of Rep!

    And, like Chris said, Welcome to the 'Drome!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  13. #63

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    Nice work!

    You can get some nifty spinning props for those from the Aerodrome Store very reasonably.

  14. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dak21 View Post
    Nice work!

    You can get some nifty spinning props for those from the Aerodrome Store very reasonably.
    Store is closed currently. I have been waiting for it to reopen so I can get the props.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAPTKIRK406 View Post
    My newest addition to my air arm. 4x A6M3 from Armaments in Miniature. Painted for the 251st Kokutai while station in Rabaul. Includes the bird flown by Ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa. My first painting attempt at miniatures in over 10 years. Click image for larger version. 

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    Kirk,
    Is one of the Zeros numbered "105"?

    Image of Hiroyoshi Nishizawa:
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    If cards were to show up, would you want 'Wings of War', or 'Wings of Glory' style?

    PS: Are these A6M3 Model 32s with the folding tips removed, or the later (oddly numbered lower) the A6M3 Model 22s with the wingtips replaced?

    PPS: Now have a template for the Model 32:
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    Last edited by OldGuy59; 01-04-2021 at 13:10.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

  16. #66

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    Well those are REALLY nice. And welcome to The 'Drome.

    10 years, eh? One more little push for me to start repaints. I have about 30 more zombie minis to repaint, then some Aliens minis... For some reason, WoG repaints keep intimidating me.

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    I have them labeled at 101, 102, 103 and 106, he was also apparently to have flown that plane as well, but I have no problems adding a UI-105 to my collection . I plan on adding more anyway. These appear according to the lines to be non-folding wing tips. So I would say Model 32 and Wings of Glory for sure sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Kirk,
    Is one of the Zeros numbered "105"?

    Image of Hiroyoshi Nishizawa:
    Attachment 295836

    If cards were to show up, would you want 'Wings of War', or 'Wings of Glory' style?

    PS: Are these A6M3 Model 32s with the folding tips removed, or the later (oddly numbered lower) the A6M3 Model 22s with the wingtips replaced?

    PPS: Now have a template for the Model 32:
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAPTKIRK406 View Post
    I have them labeled at 101, 102, 103 and 106, he was also apparently to have flown that plane as well, but I have no problems adding a UI-105 to my collection . I plan on adding more anyway. These appear according to the lines to be non-folding wing tips. So I would say Model 32 and Wings of Glory for sure sir.
    OldGuy59's WWII Axis Fighters Album - A6M3 Mod 32

    As it turned out, the number on the tail isn't visible from the top down. So, this card could be for any of the planes.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Dave, I noticed talk of panel lining in different colors and I was wondering if you were aware of these as a potential option?

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    They're pretty easy to use, and I think that they'd work well with your colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VonSquid View Post
    Dave, I noticed talk of panel lining in different colors and I was wondering if you were aware of these as a potential option?

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    They're pretty easy to use, and I think that they'd work well with your colors.
    Oohh! Does this come in digital format?

    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Hi Jeremy. I do have a few of the Tamiya colors. I use them often, but prefer the Flory Models wash because they are non-toxic. The Tamiya products work better when the colors need to be blended since they can be reactivated with thinner. For example, I use them to tint the windows on my planes. For straight panel lining, the Flory Models products are hands down the best. They are highly effective, easy to apply and look great. There are a bunch of colors in the Flory products, and I have, and use them all.

  22. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Oohh! Does this come in digital format?

    Ha! That would be great

    Dave: I don't doubt that about the Flory Models washes. However these are intended for precision application into panel lines, not as a wash. I believe that they were developed for Gundam modelers.

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    Here is a standard A6M5-52 Card from 302d Kokutai, Plane #104. I like putting the plane number in large letters out in the field so I can see it better with my aging eyes during play. I'll be working up some A6M3 cards in early, mid and late color schemes next.

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    Here is a version without any ID nomenclature if anyone wants to use it for different planes. This will be easier to put your own numbers on in Paint of some other graphics program.

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    Gorgeous cards, thank you, Dave

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    Here are some sample A6M3 cards.

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    Dave, I can't open your recent Zero cards on my computer. They look great in my browser. I can Copy Image and Save on my computer hard drive. They appear to be .png format files. I have a Windows 10 OS with current updates. I should be able to open .png files in Paint 3D or Photos, but they both give me error messages:

    "Couldn't Open, Something went wrong" (Paint 3D)

    "A6M3-Cammo.png (what I renamed 'attachment') It looks like we don't support this file format" (Photos)

    I just downloaded File Viewer Plus, and it opens the file, but displays nothing.

    Any idea what's wrong? Anybody?

    I just noticed. I have three files for cards of 'Black Squadron' Zeros that I downloaded some while ago. They're all in .png format, and they display in Paint 3D , Photos and File Viewer Plus. So it's not an issue with .png format per se, it's something different about your files. I sure wish I could open and print them, you did great work on them.
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    Hey Irv,

    You are correct, I posted them in PNG format. I’m not sure what the issue is. I believe that others have saved them successfully. I can try reloading them as JPEGs and see if that works. We’ll find a way. I should be able to try that later tonight, or tomorrow night depending on how things go.

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    I think I've solved the problem, though I'm still puzzled. When I 'Save Image As', rather than 'Copy Image', I get a much larger .png file, 583 KB vs 35 KB, and I can open the file in my several viewers. Maybe the little corrupt file is an artifact of the Firefox browser that I'm using? Gawd nose. Anyway, no need to repost those images. All's well that ends.

  29. #79

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    Excellent Irv. I’m really glad you found the issue. Enjoy the cards!

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