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    You're right, but this is not what I meant.
    I guess the camo scheme was simplified for the younger builders

    No, besides this error. What could there be wrong on this paint scheme?

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    Camo scheme looks completely wrong for "White 5"

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    No, not quite.

    You are not allowed to use the Swastika in some Countries.
    Germany is one of them, so in this point the paint scheme for the Revell Modell is correct.

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    No swastika

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    So the paint scheme isn't the scheme the aircraft carried, and it doesn't have all the markings that the original carried, and there's something else. Hmm, OK, I'll take another look

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    Ah, the dark grey and light grey areas are reversed between the plan view and the port profile

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Ah, the dark grey and light grey areas are reversed between the plan view and the port profile
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    And the Winner is....

    "Eagle eye" David

    Someone at Revell didn't pay attention there before approving this document

    Quote Originally Posted by David Manley View Post
    Ah, the dark grey and light grey areas are reversed between the plan view and the port profile

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    Here's a couple of Me 262 A-1A/U4s with 50mm cannon. Models are from HBM. Only 2 of these (possibly a third) were produced, only one was flown by Major Wilhelm Herget under combat conditions - 2 missions both unsuccessful due to gun jams. I've painted these up in a 'what-if' operational camouflage.

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    They look menacingly awesome, Steve - especially the rear banked 262 - love the colors!

    I have to get working on my Schwalbe...

    All the best,
    Matt

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    Very Cool! I may have just found my next project. I'm going to claim new guy status when I ask if anyone has created a aircraft card and maneuver deck that I can get or print out?

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    those definitely fall under the heading so ugly its cool with the ginourmous barrel sticking out the front. reminds me of the old us civil war spar torpedoes. very cool!!!!

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    I imagine that carrying one of those 50 mm cannons significantly reduced the plane's performance.

    Only two prototypes were equipped with the big gun. There is more about them on this weblink: https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread...the-nose.2905/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntruck View Post
    Here's a couple of Me 262 A-1A/U4s with 50mm cannon. Models are from HBM. Only 2 of these (possibly a third) were produced, only one was flown by Major Wilhelm Herget under combat conditions - 2 missions both unsuccessful due to gun jams. I've painted these up in a 'what-if' operational camouflage.
    Very nice birds of prey, Steve. Colours and camos are perfect. They would fit well in the game with...wait...DDDDDD/DDD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladeius View Post
    Very Cool! I may have just found my next project. I'm going to claim new guy status when I ask if anyone has created a aircraft card and maneuver deck that I can get or print out?
    Just PM me your email address and I can send you one that I was sent.
    -Daniel

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    Here is some birdies that I have been working on
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    Right now I am waiting for the paint on the gray on the dry and also I am waiting to go get some white paint for the markings.

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    Here they are all finished
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    I like your pilot silhouettes. I may have to try that.

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    The White Knight, the elves caught him zooming across the work bench, twin Lorin ram jets flamed out . . .

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    Streaking to altitude!

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    Need some jet flames to add . . .

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    Your White Knight looks more like something out of Star Wars than a W.W.2 aircraft, David.

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    The Lorin ram jets came out late in the war, were flight tested on other planes . . . Very cool, give it a Google, should be good against the Red meanies from Mars . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    I like your pilot silhouettes. I may have to try that.
    Thank you I just used a pen. Everything you see there except for the swastika and the pilot was hand painted.

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    Here are two of them 1/144 Eduard
    Black, green,grey,raw amber



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    Very nice. I really like the black one.
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    Thank you
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    I recently attempted a couple of these--Shapeways models, custom bases from Aerodrome Accessories, and downloaded pilot cards/movement decks here on forums. I look forward to trying them out! Click image for larger version. 

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    Nice. You've been a busy boy painting lately!

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    Thank you!

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    Very nicely done

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    Une hirondelle ne fait pas le printemps… « dicton français »

    One swallow does not make a springtime... And 6 "Schwalben"?

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    "From BRS to WoG" or the transformation of 6 1/200th scale models designed for the Blood-Red-Skies rule.

    A Me 262 A-1 makes 12,5m of wingspan and 10,6m of length; that is to say in 1/200e 62mm of wingspan and 53 mm of length.
    The 6 BRS miniatures are 61 x 52 mm ... côôl. The RBS box is nevertheless to be advised because the rendering of the Me262 is very good

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    The plastic is a bit soft, so some of the wings and tails are crooked. The molding presents unsightly vertical hollows along the fuselage: it is indeed the fashion to accentuate the pseudo-lines delimiting the plates. Moreover, some people underline with black wash these hollows whose proportions kept because of the 1/200th scale would make in reality 3 L x 3 cm of depth... berk!. The same highlighting is sometimes found on the camouflage of the wings... Fashion effect but very ugly. But this is only my humble opinion....
    And good news, no propellers to glue like on BRS piston engine planes; just a pitot on the left wing tip; just in case for the propeller blades some (humble) advices : https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/co...ainting-Thread

    Of course it is necessary to adapt a specific WoG pin under the planes.

    But the big drawback of the BRS series is the lack of a transparent canopy; everything is molded in one piece and to give the impression of the sky and the clouds on the plexi I don't know how to do it...

    Solution: make a "cockpit canopy" from transparent plastic

    So the + to achieve is to give the impression that there is a pilot in the plane.

    HOW TO:
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    Few supplies: Hot spring (candle), transparent plastic packaging sheets, small softwood block for template making, size +- 40 x 30 mm (diagram). Drill an oval hole of dimension L x M; make a rounding of shape D and F and fit (precision) directly on the fuselage of the Me 262. Sand and avoid sharp edges that will press the clear plastic onto the fuselage and cockpit shape.
    Heat the rhodoid without darkening it, once it is very soft apply it to the aircraft and press it with the template so that the clear plastic "fits" the shape of the cockpit-fuselage. Make several tests to find the right temperature before pressing, advice: a dozen copies of molding for 6 aircraft is a wise precaution. The next step is to remove the plastic layer used as a canopy. Be careful ! It is irreversible we have no tool to « thicken ». It is not a question of "digging" a cockpit but of flattening the top up to the canopy-fuselage joint. Then you'll have to cut and fit the canopy to the aircraft as best you can, perhaps with one or two misses (hence the x12). Before gluing the transparent curves we will position a "pilot's head" with different colors imitating straps, leather helmet, glasses and dashboard color ... Give an atmosphere what! Once the gluing is done, puttying and painting of the canopy frames according to the original drawings.
    Questions ?

    Properly manage the priming and the background of the airbrush colors on the underside: especially in the order before and after gluing the canopy
    Opt for the fine brush and delimitation with masking tape for the extrados and the camo.

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    It is now a question of choosing the decals of the jets by diving into the recovery of decals because I do not have a specific board available. This is in my opinion the most interesting point to find an original painting.
    The uncertainty of the interpretation of period B&W photos gives several possible base colors.

    Me 262 A-1a III-EJG2 Lechfeld 3-1945.
    Note that one way to hit the Me262s by the Allied fighters was to surprise the slowing jet in its approach to the field. The Luftwaffe countered by putting Flak along the approach corridor, then a Staffeln of FW190 D-9 on patrol over the Me 262 bases.
    And a specific card (sorry I don't remember the name of the author) ) giving the usage info: Deck R* - resistance 20 - fire markers DDDD / DD.
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    JG7 with two machines and blue-red identification bands: Me 262 A-1a 1 Maj R-Sinner III-JG7 Brandenburg-Briest 1-1945. The other 262 #4 is from a profile but no photo evidence on authenticity.
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    ErprobungsKommando262 / EK262 "Nowotny" Lechfeld 7-1944
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    Profile found of a night fighter intrados black matt without confirmation photo
    Me 262 A-1a 2 10-NAG11 colors RLM82-81-22
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    Patrol of two EK262 jets
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    Patrol of the two JG7. No "post-combustion" to climb; only 2 x 900 Kg of thrust
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    Article explaining the procedure of attack of the "Viermots" by the jets.
    And demo with 5 miniatures behind a B-17G
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    Oops finished! Put away the magnifying glass and the tweezers... It's small the 1/200th
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    note that profiles and b&w images are from "Osprey", "Aerojournal" and "Avions"
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    nice paintings and great presentation with documented sources.
    REP targeted

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    If this isn't rep-worthy, I don't know what is
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    All I can say is, WOW! I guess a lot of us will be sending our Swallows to you to put on canopies!

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    Great work. Having done a few of them, I can say yours are much better.

    Karl
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    lovely flock of 262s chee!

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    Those - are - magnificent!!!!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Most impressive work chee.
    The canopy idea is genius.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Brilliant Chee. Really enjoyed the "How To" even though I will probably never be able to emulate it in any way. And the finished aircraft are stunning. Congratulations on some outstanding modelling

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    Brilliant work, Chee. Very attractive and impressive Schwaben. Considering your success with the cockpit canopies, one wonders whether a person could create an entire plane this way? Perhaps a plane that is not available via the usual sources?

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    Thank you all for your feedback and impressions it's my pleasure to share this subject and these pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry R. View Post
    Considering your success with the cockpit canopies, one wonders whether a person could create an entire plane this way? Perhaps a plane that is not available via the usual sources?
    The method is targeted on an existing cockpit whose shape is used as a mold to obtain the same thing in transparent... You get a small part of an airplane; not the whole one

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    Cobbled together this line drawing for the 1a/U4:

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    Then, realized Steve [Guntruck] posted the models. I could complete the card, but Steve has his own style...

    And we don't have stats for the cannon?

    I'm also going to take a stab at the Lorin Ramjet version. You'll see how that works out, soon I hope... Again, no stats.
    Mike
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    Not in the "White Knight" livery, and without a Maneuver Deck, but something for the Lorin Ram Jet plane:

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    Mike
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    For the A1-U4, just have the guns as D/A (low rate of fire dropping the long range to an A)
    For the Lorin Ram Jet plane, absolutely no data as this was just a paper project with no tests.
    Karl
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Cobbled together this line drawing for the 1a/U4:

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    I could complete the card, but Steve has his own style...
    You go for it if you want, Mike
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    Would anyone care to create a card for another Me 262B? I found and downloaded the Kurt Welter card that had 20 damage and R* maneuver deck, but I'd really appreciate a card for this particular plane.

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    I wish I could take credit for having any kind of painting ability, but unfortunately I can't. I have to purchase pre-painted planes. This Me262B is a pre-painted 1/144th scale F-Toys kit. I wasn't sure which Me262 forum threads to use to ask for a custom card to be created.

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