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    FAQs & Points of Interest
    (Ace Skills & Optional Rules now appear in post #2)

    A few people have asked for something like this so I'm having a stab at it - This is what I have so far after a trawl of the Rules sub forum - you will see I have shown links to the threads & if there are other things you want raised let me know but please give a link to the thread that refers to it. I will endeavour to keep it up to date and expand on it.
    Remember please this FAQ pertains to WW1 rules and matters - I say this to remind myself as much as you !
    Where possible I have included a link to the thread where the question has come up so you can research the issue further if you wish to and I've noted responses from Andrea Angiolino (aka Angiolillo), the game's designer, where he has made them or if they are known. You will find some questions are included as they are interesting rather than frequently asked !
    If there are any corrections, additions you think should be made let me know.
    This is still a work in progress so expect its presentation to evolve...

    Cheers Dave.

    Jammed guns - Red & Green:
    Q: In the damage decks there are gun jam cards with red or green crosses. Is there any difference or should I treat them the same ?
    A: If you are using the optional Ace Skills, the green jam cross is ignored for an Ace with the Bullet Checker skill. Otherwise there is no difference between the two.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...77-jammed-guns

    Number of damage decks:
    Q: Is there a house rule for a "golden" ratio of decks to planes in play?
    A: The designer's suggested minimum is one deck for every four planes in use. He also mentions that if you use multiple decks in big games there's no need to separate them again for smaller games.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...-Damage-Decks-!

    Overlapping:
    Q: What are the rules are on "overlapping" plane bases? What do you guys usually do?
    A: There's several ways to play this:
    1) From the Deluxe Set Rules: Overlapping is allowed, but if the models cannot be placed correctly due to model sizes or peg positions each player draws a B damage card. The player drawing the lowest number (on the lower right, not the damage value) moves first, then the other player places his model as close as possible to the intended position. Damage results on these cards are ignored, just return them to the deck.
    2) From the miniatures rules insert: Temporarily replace one model with it's card.
    3) From Burning Drachens (ONLY if using Altitude Rules): Use either of the above methods, but there is also a chance overlapping models or balloons may collide. If the models are at the same altitude and BOTH either have NO climb counters or ANY climb counters, draw a C damage card for each (Balloon Busters uses two A-cards instead)
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...ng-Mini-s-Play

    Collisions - How do most people deal with them?:
    Officially a collision occurs if the models bases overlap, they are at the same altitude and both either have NO climb counters, or, ANY climb counters, draw a C damage card for each model but do not apply special damage other than the explosion.
    Having said that players the world over found that overlapping bases and meeting the collision requirements occurs way too frequently for most of them and the main consensus reached is that a collision should only only occur if the model's bases overlap to the extent that the one model's base overlaps the others peg. (thus planes can overlap without collision but collisions can still occur).
    More recently some have taken to using 'collision cards' (a number to be found in house rules of the WW1 files section) to decide whether a collision occurs or not - all info can be found on the linked thread below and links from that thread.
    A: Read, assess and make your own decision !!
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...-played-option

    Overlapping & Shooting Question:
    Q: If two planes are over lapping and are at different altitudes can they still shoot at each other it they are in the firing cone?
    A: There's nothing in the altitude rules to override the blanket "overlapping planes can't fire at each other" rule.
    (always gone with the rule unless the plane at lower altitude has a wing mounted gun that can be pulled down to fire upwards, or, the observer of a two-seater has the plane above/below in his firing arc - Update: see series 9 rules below for Higher MGs).
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...Bases-question

    Immelmann Turn Questions:

    Immelmann & Rudder damage:
    Q: If you can't turn right or left due to rudder damage ... can you still do an Immelmann Turn?
    A: Yes, it is allowed by the game rules.
    (NB Most don't allow it as it is not historically accurate to do one if your rudder is jammed both sides)
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...-Turn-Question

    Immelmann Turn & Stalls:
    Q: Can you do an Immelmann turn after a stall, which is a shorter straight than a normal one?
    A: Nope, the stall is not a straight. You have to go by the little arrows in the lower left corner of the cards. Straight cards are marked with an upward pointing arrow. If there is anything else or no marking it is not a straight. With one exception in the L deck the stall is only a Steep manoeuvre and are marked with a <>.
    (But you can do a Split S which is a Stall-Immel-Straight manoeuvre)
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...4174-immelmann

    Immelmann & Engine Damage:
    Q: If you have engine damage ... can you still do an Immelmann Turn?
    A: Yes, it is allowed by the game rules as you can split the manoeuvre across turns
    eg: R/St/S - I/S/St -

    Immelmann off straight after Immelmann
    Q: If I play an Immelmann card and the game turn finishes on the straight immediately after it, can I start the next game turn with another Immelmann card..? eg - ?/S/I - S/I/S - I/S/? -
    A: Yes you can, the rules allow it and it's been confirmed again by Andrea. (2018)
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...t-S-s&p=487167

    The Immelmann turn is often regarded as a three card manoeuvre whereas it is a special one card manoeuvre with certain restrictions upon its use:
    To play an Immelmann card you must first play a straight card immediately before it and a straight card immediately after it (unless you have the acrobatic pilot ace skill).
    Rear Gunners cannot fire during any of these three cards & a climb card cannot be played in the same turn as an Immelmann card.

    The first straight card is to show you have the energy to perform the manoeuvre, the Immelmann card is the manoeuvre itself, the second straight card is to show recovery of energy following the manoeuvre after which you can play any card within the restrictions given. This includes an Immelmann card if available (ie in the the next turn).

    Immelmann rules are found in RAP Rules on pages 7, 10, 15 & 24.

    Immelmann & Firing Rear Gunner:
    Page 14 of the RAP Rulebook states: "airplanes cannot fire at a target in the rear firing arc immediately after using [the Immelmann] manoeuvre card or after the manoeuvre card played just before or just after it." (emphasis added)
    Q: does this really mean "or" (as in the player has a choice regarding when not to fire - either during the Immelmann card phase, or the phases immediately preceding or following the Immelmann card), or does it instead mean "and" (as in the player may not fire during the phases immediately before, during, and after the playing of an Immelman card)?
    A: Andrea says: "I meant all three manoeuvres"
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...Immelmann-Turn

    Immelmann & Fire Damage:
    Q: When ending a turn with a straight and then an Immelmann your kite's set on fire.. problem is that ending the turn with an Immelmann, means the first move of the next turn has to be a straight, however, the rules state that when on fire you're not allowed to plan straight manoeuvres.
    In order to fulfil the rules, do you just plan a non-straight manoeuvre, fall foul of the Illegal Manoeuvre rule and have to change it to a straight anyway?
    A: You get an A damage for the straight after the Immelmann as it is illegal to do so when on fire; as it is the first card of the next turn you will also already have received an A card in exchange for a fire token as well.
    (Andrea's clear that his intent (and preference) was that if you did a straight (planned or mandatory) when on fire then your aircraft would be destroyed (as per an "illegal" move in original game) but Ares wished the straight/A card option which is what they went with in the rules; destruction being an optional rule..)
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...Immelmann-Turn

    Fire & Rudder Jams:
    Q: Your bird is on fire and then you get both left and right rudder jams, what happens? When on fire you cannot use a straight manoeuvre but when double jammed... What can you do?
    A: Andrea says "...If you have the rudder jammed in both direction, plan stalls or dives or climbs as much as you can (they are not straights). And then illegal moves: plan straights, or left/right cards - no matter which you will plan, they will be replaced with straights and inflict an A card of damage (or eliminate you if the optional rule is in use)."
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...jammer-rudders

    Altitude:
    Q: When you get enough climb tokens do you automatically go to the next level or do you wait till the next turn to climb ?
    A: Yes, you automatically go to the next level. Example: If you are elevation 4, and you have a climb rate of 3, once you have played the third climb card and receive that 3rd climb token, you are then at elevation 5.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...p?1142-alitude

    Line of sight:
    Q: In the rulebook it states that only models at the same level block line of sight to a target at the same level as the shoot. But does line of sight get blocked it you are shooting at a target one level lower with a plane in between you and the target at the target level? And when he attempts to shoot back does a plane at his level block line of sight to the target one level higher?
    A: No. Keeping to the letter of the rules, line of sight is only blocked if all 3 planes are on the same level.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...itude-question

    Aim Bonus:
    Q: In a situation of aiming at short range:
    The two cards damage received damage bonus of +1?
    (example (CD 1p +1) + (CD 2p +1)=5 points of damage).
    A: Correct, at close range both cards receive the +1 bonus.
    NB. Bonuses are not cumulative so for example if diving and having an Aim bonus you don't get a +2 (Source: Andrea)
    AND a zero is always a zero, so no +1 on them..!

    L Manoeuvre deck:
    Q: Card #14/24 in the L Manoeuvre deck is marked with a "diamond" steep action, but card #15/24 is not marked with a "diamond" steep action, not even a straight forward. Is it an error or does it add an extra manoeuvrability?
    A: It is not an error. The Fokker D.VII could do a manoeuvre that's called "hang on the prop". Basically it used the power of the motor to sort of pull up and hang in the air.
    The reason card #15 does not have a straight icon is so it can not be used with an Immelmann manoeuvre. It has no steep icon to show that it can be used before or after another steep manoeuvre.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...L-Manuver-deck

    When Rockets Miss ?:
    Q: A Camel fired 2 rocket salvos at a balloon. After the Camel's second straight a Dr1 fired at the Camel. The damage card the Camel received for being shot at by the Dr1 had a jam result on it, meaning the Dr1's guns jammed. So far, so easy.
    However, does that also mean the rockets missed because the Camel drew a card with special damage on it?
    A strict reading of the rules implies the rockets miss:
    "The target is hit after the next maneuver if all 3 of the following conditions are met:
    3) the firing airplane does not draw any card with a special damage symbol because of enemy fire in these two rounds of maneuvers"
    A: Andrea: "My idea is that if you are hit you could be distracted or somehow go out of route to avoid bullets or have any other kind of problems. Every time you are hit? No, just sometimes. How often? Let's say every time there is a special damage icon on the card. So which icon is not relevant - since explosions and jammed guns are defined as special damages, they count too."
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...to-jammed-guns

    Gun confusion:
    Q: My two-seater plane has AB/B shown for its guns - confused as to what AB means.
    A: The configuration presented is a triple gunned front mount. When firing to the front, the victim draws an "A" and a "B" damage card for each long-ranged shot, and two each for short-ranged shots.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...-4-Damage-deck

    How the Blind Spot Works:
    Q: My group may have been playing them wrong - does it apply to the whole arc ? Can long range shots still be taken ?
    A: If the target is at the same or lower altitude*
    1. Lay the ruler peg to peg.
    2. If the ruler passes over the rear edge of the firer's base and
    3. Any part of the target's base is at short range
    Then the target is in the blind spot and cannot be shot at
    (* As with all rules there are some exceptions to this - Hannover being one of them)
    ....And yes, long range shots can be taken !

    This may help:

    Diagram here: https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/do...do=file&id=297
    https://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sh...409#post468409


    Hannover Rear Firing Arc:
    Q: Should the Hannover have a rear arc of fire on the card as it has one on the base - which is correct?
    A: Andrea:- "Sorry for the typo. The base is OK, the card is wrong (it should have the same rear arc)...
    Hannover Cl.IIIa has also a reduced rear blind spot due to its special tail design: the blind spot is effective only against targets at lower altitude, while the sight to target at the same altitude is not blocked.This rule does not affect points cost."
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...ard-base-error

    360 Arcs of Fire for Rear Gunners:
    Q: Other than the Roland do other two seater rear gunners have the 360 arc of fire at higher targets?
    A: Andrea:- This is the rule I wrote in the next, still unpublished official supplement:
    Roland C.II/C.IIa, Bristol F2B Fighter, Halberstadt CL.II, Hannover CL.IIIa - altitude and arc's of fire.
    This rule can be used if the altitude rules are also in use. These planes have higher rear machine guns that can be turned 360°: use the arc of fire on the card/base with the blind spot for targets at the same or lower altitude but their rear machine guns can ignore both the blind spot and the firing arc when firing at targets at higher altitude..."
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...ard-base-error

    Basing Models:
    Q: I've bought an after market model - how do I know which base to use ?
    A: These are the pertinent points from Andrea:
    • Wingspan is what determines the base size of planes (number of engines is not a factor).
    • The huge planes with wingspans of 29 metres and upwards (Staaken, Felixstowe, HP O/400, etc) have the biggest base (8cm x 11cm approx).
    • The big planes with wingspans of 22.2 to 24 metres (Caproni Ca.3, Gotha G.V, Friedrichshafen G.III, etc) have the medium size base (6.8cm x 8.8cm, exactly twice the width of a 'normal' fighter card).
    • Planes with a smaller wingspan up to an undefined maximum, a bit larger than the 14.36m span Bregeut 14 (including the 14.55m FE2 and the 15.24m AEG N.I) use the 'normal' fighter base. The exact maximum has not been defined.
    • Furthermore Andrea mentions the potential of a fourth base size (one and a half 'normal' cards wide) for those planes with a wingspan of approximately 17-18m (such as the Farman F.40 and the Caudron G.4), but since this base size was declined by Ares it's likely that such planes will have to go down to the 'normal' fighter size base or up to the medium (Gotha etc) size base, although which is not yet decided upon.
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...t-bomber-stats

    Arcs of Fire:
    Q: Following a query about arcs of fire for certain aircraft in ww2 Andrea responded with this - it is included in this ww1 FAQ as the response is pertinent to both games:
    A: Designer note: the standard fighters' cone is somehow "broad", and not just a "fire in front" cone, because planes are not allowed to turn any inclination as in reality. WW1 fighters, for example, can only turn 60° or more.
    Blue Max allows you to fire only in the row of hexes in front of you. if a plane is two hexes away from another, but they are not in the same row of hexes, they can not fire at each other no matter which orientation they have even if they are quite at short range from each other. There is a huge "blind spot" between a row of hexes and another. If a plane is 2 hexes away in a different row, you can have it too at your left if you are heading North and too to your right if you head NWW. This is absurd IMHO, and the standard forward cone for fighters is aimed to avoid that. In Wings of War/Glory, it is never possible that you miss a target just because it is in a blind spot between the orientation you have going straight and the one you have using one of your turns. The cone approximates all the orientations you could get into if you could be allowed not just to go straight or turn 60°, but also to turn any other inclination in-between as you could in reality.
    Of course, front flexible guns may have broader arcs...
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...arcs-a-problem

    Staaken Engine Repair:
    Q: Does it take a whole TURN (three complete phases from the BEGINNING of a turn before the first action phase to after the Fire step of the third and LAST phase)? OR, Does it take only a whole PHASE (any phase) to attempt to repair the engine...? (Wording in FotG and WoG rules are at odds using words phase/turn in same place, believed to be a typo?)
    A: Andrea: You are perfectly correct, there is a typo. The engine repair can be made if the mechanic is at the engine at the start of a turn...
    If an engine is damaged, the mechanic/gunner can switch positions (see Crewmen with Multiple Roles, WW1 Wings of ar Rules and Accessories Pack, page 27) to try to repair it. Each mechanic/gunner can try to repair damage only on his own engine (left or right).
    When a mechanic/gunner is at the engine (gray role circle) at the start of a turn, he can try to repair that engine, by spending the whole turn to do so (as a whole turn is required, he must have moved to the grey circle in the previous turn and he cannot move away until the next turn).
    At the end of the turn, after the Firing step is completed, draw a “B” damage card.
    - If the result is “0” or an explosion, the damage is permanent and cannot be repaired: flip the engine damage counter face-up as a reminder.
    - If the result is “1” or more, the damage is repaired. If the damage is repaired, you can remove one engine damage counter (choose one if there are more than one) from the engine.
    A mechanic cannot make more than one attempt to repair damage in the same turn.
    Higher MG Rule (Adv) & Collisions
    Q: Does the higher gun rule takes the place of the collision rule?
    The higher gun rule says: "It can also fire at short range at airplanes overlapping its firing arc at the same altitude level unless the firer has climb counters and the target does not."
    This disagrees with the rule in the book that says two overlapping planes at the same altitude collide if the both have climb counters or both don't have climb counters.
    A: Andrea says:
    Both rules apply. The situation is not static - the two planes are moving while the one with the upper Lewis is trying to fire and both risk colliding into each other, maybe after bullets are exchanged.
    So, when the firing plane has a higher machinegun and a target overlaps in its firing cone...

    Target plane one level higher: fire at it long range.
    Target plane at same level with climb counters, firing plane without climb counters: fire at short range but no collision.
    Target plane at same level without climb counters, firing plane without climb counters: fire at short range and collide.
    Target plane at same level with climb counters, firing plane with climb counters: fire at short range and collide.
    Target plane at same level without climb counters, firing plane with climb counters: neither fire nor collision.

    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...Collision-rule


    This is not an exhaustive list of FAQs or PoI - if you can't find what you're after here use the search or advanced search at the top right of the page - failing that trawl through the Rules threads and you never know, you might just find what you are looking for ! If you find something that you think should be included let me know.



    Frequent Questions:

    Are Wings of War & Wings of Glory models compatible ?:
    Yes, totally - the cards have a different look in WoG but are completely usable with the original WoW on the table.

    Where do I find Stats for WW1 aircraft ?:
    In the file sections here (Click on the phrase to follow link!) you will find a page containing a number of documents to download containing all the info you'll ever need created by our 'Unofficial Stats Committee' - pick your preference (I prefer the spreadsheet personally so I can filter the data)

    How are aircraft stats worked out ?:
    The 'Unofficial Stats Committee's 'Tools For Working Out Stats' doc here in the files section will give a guide to how it's done but someone is always willing to chip in and help if you pose the question !

    Where do I find info on different Manoeuvre decks ?:
    In the file sections here
    (Click on the phrase to follow link!) Here you will find a WoG Manoeuvre Deck Breakdown document that lists contents of all decks in detail

    How does bombing work ?:
    There is a simple diagram demonstrating how it's done here in the files

    And here is a thread that demonstrates how to do it on the table in WW1

    Are there official bomb load outs ?:
    No but have a look here for some 'unofficial' ideas.

    Where do I find what WW1 models have previously been released ?:
    Download this document here in the files that shows all releases up to series 9 of 2016.
    There is also a useful thread here about the models.
    by Dan-Sam.

    Where can I download the official full set of WoG WW1 rules ?:
    There currently isn't anywhere but if you find somewhere can you let us all know ?!
    What Ares has for WW1 you can find on their site here

    Are there any Solo Rules / Movement charts ?:
    Nothing official but there are a number of movement charts in use (based on Richard Bradleys solo rules) in the files section here.
    If you want to see them in action have a look at the Over The Trenches sub-forum which is full of after action reports utilizing said rules.
    Now there is even an APP for those electronically minded that includes the different solo rules.

    Why three manoeuvre cards for WW1 ?
    The rationale for the three card turn in WW1 and the 1 card & 1 card planning for WW2 is explained by Andrea, the games designer, here on BGG:
    https://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/10501696#10501696

    Are there any night fighting rules for WW1 ?
    Nothing official but look here for a good tried and tested unofficial rules by Teaticket

    Where can I find plane cards ?
    Several members have created plane cards over the years here are some albums containing cards:
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=2850
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=2851
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3986
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3985
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=2929
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3056
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3057

    None of which are 100% in conformance with the stats, official or unofficial.

    This one of Zoe's is, but is very much a work in progress.

    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=3984

    Where can I find aeroplane performance data ?
    There is a pdf here that may help: http://sjharker.customer.netspace.ne...erformance.pdf

    Where can I find... ?:
    Hopefully now you are getting the idea that if you are looking for something to help you play the game, be it a target, an aide memoire, or other game aide the first place to look will be in the forum's files section - it's well worth having a trawl through anyway !
    Last edited by flash; 03-18-2019 at 11:51. Reason: Separate the Ace Skills

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    Ace Abilities and Optional Rules.

    An ace may have one or more special skills but not the same skill more than once.
    Note that some skills require the use of the standard or advanced rules as indicated in the title of the skill.
    This list is sourced from the Rules and Accessories Pack (RAP), Ace Sets, Crew Skills (Giants sets), Series 9 and 3a releases (s.9) (s.3a).

    I have copied Ace Abilities and Optional Rules in this thread to a Word Doc that I've put in the WW1 files under Game Aides - which you can find linked here

    Manoeuvre Abilities: (Pilots Only)

    Acrobatic Pilot:
    This pilot may perform a non-straight manoeuvre after an Immelmann, or, a Split-S.
    When you use this skill take five recovery tokens.
    (basic rules) (RAP) (s.9 - WGF122C Nieuport 11; WGF121B/C Phönix D.I)(s.3a - WGF117A/C Nieuport 17; WGF118C Albatros D.III)

    Daredevil:
    This pilot may perform two steep manoeuvres in succession.
    When you execute the second steep manoeuvre take four recovery tokens.
    (basic rules) (RAP)

    Height Control:
    When executing a dive, or, overdive, this pilot may take (or, keep) as many climb counters as he wants, up to the maximum climb of his airplane minus one.
    (Advanced rules) (s.9 & Ace set)

    Nimble Pilot:
    This skill requires the use of the Tailing optional rule.
    This pilot can tail an enemy airplane even if piloting a multi-engine airplane. You may tail the same airplane for several consecutive action phases.
    In the action phase you do not tail the same airplane any more take three recovery tokens.
    (basic rules) (Crew skill)

    Evasion Abilities: (Pilots Only)

    Good at Escaping:
    This skill requires use of the Tailing optional rule.
    This pilot's airplane may not be tailed unless the tailing airplane's pilot is also an ace with the Good at Escaping skill
    (basic rules) (RAP)

    Lucky Pilot:
    This pilot may choose to ignore a single damage card during the game after drawing and seeing it.
    The ignored card is shuffled back into the deck.
    To remember that this skill has been used discard its token.
    (basic rules) (RAP)

    Personal Abilities:

    Chivalrous Aptitude:
    Some pilots took away all tracing bullets away from their machine gun feed to avoid igniting enemy planes.
    Ignore any fire and smoke special damage on a damage card drawn by the target of an attack by this ace.
    In addition, if a target airplane takes an explosion card its owner shows it and openly draws another damage card. If the second card is a 0 the aircraft is eliminated, if it is a 1 or more ignore the explosion and this new card is taken as damage instead. Ignore any jamming result on the second card. The explosion card is reshuffled into its deck.
    An ace that chooses this skill may choose two more skills (excluding the incendiary bullets skill which is prohibited to pilots with chivalrous aptitude)
    (Standard rules) (RAP)(s.3a - WGF117A Nieuport 17)

    Strong Constitution:
    This ace ignores the effects of the first crewman hit special damage on himself.
    If the ace takes a second wound, and he is the pilot, he is incapacitated and the aircraft is eliminated.
    If he is the observer, or, other crewman, he is incapacitated by the second wound and can no longer fire his machine gun.
    (standard rules) (RAP)

    Super Ace:
    This player discards two recovery tokens from each of the ace's skills after each manoeuvre rather just one.
    (basic rules)(Aces set)(RAP)(s.9 - WGF118C Albatros D.III)

    Double Ace:
    When another 'once per game' skill (such as Lucky Pilot or Intuitive) is used, do not discard that skill but take seven recovery tokens instead.
    To remember this skill has been used turn the card face down.
    (basic rules) (s.9 & Aces set)

    Team Coordination:
    During the planning phase, the ace can look at the cards planned by all friendly airplanes within two rulers distance, before planning his own cards.
    If more than one friendly ace uses this skill at the same time, randomly draw to see who plans first among them and shows planned cards to the others.
    This skill can be used twice in a game.
    (basic rules) (s.9 - WGF122B Nieuport 11)

    Intuitive:
    This skill requires the use of the Tailing optional rule.
    For the current turn, the ace can tail an airplane even if the ruler checking for tailing passes through a lateral side of the target base (but not the front), instead of the rear.
    To remember this skill has been used turn the card face down.
    (basic rules) (s.9)

    Expert Trainer:
    This pilot allows another crewman within one ruler of distance to use one of his skills. The expert trainer does not take recovery counters for that skill, when used by another crewman, and can even use it himself in the same phase.
    Use once per game. To remember this skill has been used turn this card face down.
    (s.3a - WGF118A Albatros D.III)

    Experienced pilot:
    An observer/gunner with this skill can abandon his role to replace a wounded or killed pilot.
    Mark the abandoned role circle with a casualty marker.
    To remember this skill has been used, discard the casualty marker of the incapacitated pilot and turn this card face down.
    Special rules for specific airplanes can forbid some members, in inaccessible places such as the upper gun platforms or engine nacelles, from using this skill. (Staaken)
    (standard rules) (Crew skill) (Multi engine only)

    Emergency Pilot:
    An observer/gunner with this skill can abandon his role to replace an incapacitated pilot.
    Being busy with unfamiliar controls, he fires with the usual restrictions for a rookie pilot.
    Mark the abandoned role circle with a casualty marker.
    To remember this skill has been used, discard the casualty marker of the incapacitated pilot and turn this card face down.
    Special rules for specific airplanes can forbid some members, in inaccessible places such as the upper gun platforms or engine nacelles, from using this skill. (Staaken)
    (standard rules) (Crew skill) (Multi-engine only)

    Lightfooted:
    When a multiple role crewman with this skill leaves a position he is not forced to stop on the black line but can directly move to a different position connected along this line taking the new role next turn.
    When you use this skill take three recovery tokens.
    (standard rules) (Crew skill) (Multi-engine only)


    Technical Abilities:

    Bullet Checker:
    During the first world war some pilots checked every single bullet before taking off and discarded half of them to avoid jamming problems during fights.
    When any airplane weapon with this ace on board fires ignore jamming cards with the green symbol; the weapons only jam when a card with the red symbol is drawn. (affects the whole airplane, even if the ace is incapacitated)
    (basic rules) (RAP) (3a - WGF206C RAF R.E.8; WGF117C Nieuport 17)

    Incendiary Bullets:
    Some aces used special incendiary bullets that were especially effective against balloons.
    The effect of this skill are the same of the incendiary bullets rule.. ie:
    "When a shot from an airplane carrying incendiary bullets inflicts smoke special damage on an enemy airplane the damage should be treated as fire instead.
    When a single damage card inflicts 5 damage points, without bonuses, it causes fire special damage too.
    When a shot from an incendiary round causes engine damage the target airplane also takes smoke damage with normal effects.
    When a balloon takes smoke, rudder jammed, engine damage result from an airplane with incendiary bullets treat it as fire instead. Any 5 points damage card also inflicts fire special damage."
    This skill cannot be taken if the pilot has the chivalrous aptitude skill.
    (standard rules) (RAP)

    Technical Eye:
    This ace is able to quickly assess the damage inflicted on friends and opponents.
    You may look at the damage cards of a friendly or enemy airplane which is within one ruler's distance from this ace's airplane, in any direction.
    If this skill is used during a movement step it must be used before all airplanes move, or, after all of them have finished moving.
    When you use this skill take four recovery tokens. (affects the whole airplane, as long as the ace is not incapacitated)
    (basic rules) (RAP) (Series 3a - WGF206C RAF R.E.8)

    Weapon Specialist:
    When un-jamming his own weapon this ace takes one phase less than usual.
    Two phases normally, three phases if wounded.
    (standard rules) (Crew skill & Aces set)(3a - WGF205C Ufag C.I )(s.9 - WGF210B Albatros C.III)

    Fire Expert:
    When receiving smoke or fire damage take two tokens instead of three.
    (standard rules) (Crew skill)(3a - WGF205B Ufag C.I)

    Photo Expert:
    The airplane of this observer can take a picture not only while doing a stall but also while doing a straight manoeuvre.
    (s.3a - WGF206A RAF R.E.8; WGF205B Ufag C.I)


    Combat Abilities:

    Itchy Trigger Finger:
    Aces with this skill are faster to shoot than everyone else.
    When they fire all the damage they cause is resolved before the simultaneous fire of the other airplanes that do not have an ace with this skill.
    (basic rules)(RAP)(s.3a - WGF118C Albatros D.III)

    Perfect Aim:
    When firing this ace may choose to have his opponent take one extra damage point when his attack inflicts damage. To remember the card causes extra damage keep it on the +1 damage space on the target airplane's console. A card inflicting zero damage is still considered a zero.
    You must decide to use this skill before your opponent draws the damage card. When you use this card take three recovery tokens.
    Note the bonus granted by this skill is not cumulative with the bonus granted by the Aim optional rule if that rule is in use. If the disruption optional rule is in use the bonus granted by this ability is lost when the aces airplane is hit.
    (basic rules)(RAP)(s.9 - WGF210A Albatros C.III; WGF122A Nieuport 11; WGF121C Phönix D.I) (s,3a - WGF117A Nieuport 17; WGF118B Albatros D.III)

    Sniper:
    When this ace fires at an enemy airplane he tends to hit a bull's-eye. When the ace fires the player may select one of the damage cards that his opponent would have to draw.
    The sniper player (instead of his target) draws two damage cards from the appropriate deck, looks at them, then gives the one of his choice to his opponent. The other card is shuffled back into the deck.
    When you use this skill take four recovery tokens.
    (basic rules)(RAP)(3a - WGF205C Ufag C.I; WGF117A Nieuport 17; WGF118A/C Albatros D.III)(s.9 - WGF209B Sopwith 11/2 Strutter; WGF121A Phönix D.I)

    Shadower:
    When tailing before showing its planned manoeuvre this pilot can replace it with an unused one for this turn mirroring the manoeuvre of the tailed airplane. He can mirror a curve with any curve in the same direction, a side slip with any side slip in the same direction, a straight or stall with any straight or stall, an Immelmann with any straight, stall, or, Immelmann. He must respect the usual restrictions on steep manoeuvres and Immelmann.
    Use once per game. To remember this skill has been used turn this card face down
    (s.3a - WGF117B Nieuport 17)

    Sharp Eye:
    When this skill is used the ace can hit a plane at long range as if it were at short range giving it two cards of damage instead of one.
    This skill can be used twice in a game.
    (s.9 - WGF209A Sopwith 11/2 Strutter)

    Balloon Buster:
    When the ace fires at a balloon the target must tell the firer if at least one zero card is drawn and from which deck or decks but the target does not have to say how many 0's are taken.
    If so the firer may require the target to draw one additional damage card from the same deck as one of the 0 damage cards.
    Take four recovery counters. Until all are removed 0 damage cards are not declared by any balloon the ace hits.
    (basic rules)(Ace sets)(s.9 - WGF122C Nieuport 11)

    Nimble Gunner: (basic rules) (Crew skill)
    This skill applies only to gunners of Bristol F2. Fighter and German CL (Hannover or Halberstadt) airplanes .
    The rear gun field of fire is not restricted, as drawn on the base. It includes the entire area except the forward firing cone.
    (Note - this is for non altitude games only)

    Precision Bombardier: (Standard rules)(Crew skill)
    This skill requires the use of the Dropping Bombs optional rule.
    When a bombing is declared, before showing planned manoeuvres, the player can say "short", "long" or nothing.
    If "short", place the card directly against the bomber base instead of using a stall or a straight to move it forward.
    If "long", after the bomb card is placed put the long side of a ruler against the front side of the bomb card and advance the bomb card by the ruler width by placing the front side on the other side of the ruler.
    You can put a second ruler on the long side of the bomb card if you want to be sure to move it straight.
    (affects the whole airplane, as long as the ace is not incapacitated)
    (s.3a - WGF206A/C RAF R.E.8; WGF205C Ufag C.I)

    Perfect Bombardier:
    When a bomb card falls on a target, if the bomb card does not cover the red dot at its centre but it is within a rulers width of it, consider it as if it covers the red dot.
    (s.3a - WGF205B Ufag C.I)

    Sneak Attack: *** NEW in 2019 ***
    When firing, if the shot is at short range, and the ruler reaches the target airplane stand passing through the rear edge of the target's base, the target draws a third damage card.
    When you use this ability, take two recovery counters.
    If higher machinegun optional rule is in use, overlapping targets hit thanks to that rule also draw an extra damage card.
    When playing with Advanced Rules, and extra damage card is also inflicted to targets at a higher altitude. There is not extra damage card against airplanes at the same altitude, if the firer has at least one climb counter, and the target has none.
    (WGF125A - Nieuport 16 (Ball)


    Optional Rules:

    Higher Machine Gun: (Basic & Standard rule)
    The machine gun on the upper wing of an aircraft can be used to fire upward.
    If a pilot does not execute a steep manoeuvre, it can fire on an airplane overlapping its base if part of the target base is within the firing arc. the shot is considered to be short range.
    (s.9 - WGF122A/B/C Nieuport 11 )(s.3a - WGF117B/C Nieuport 17)

    Higher Machine Gun: (Advanced rule)
    The machine gun on the upper wing of an aircraft can be used to fire upward.
    If the altitude rules are in use, the aircraft does not execute a steep manoeuvre, it can fire at long range on an airplane overlapping its firing arc exactly one altitude level above.
    It can also fire at short range at airplanes overlapping its firing arc at the same altitude level unless the firer has climb counters and the target does not.
    (s.9 - WGF122A/B/C Nieuport 11 ) (s.3a - WGF117B/C Nieuport 17)

    Fixed higher Machine Guns: (Basic and Standard rules)
    The machine gun on the upper wing of the Comic can be fixed to fire upward. If the player chooses this action just put this card next to the mat to remember.
    The Comic can fire with a +1 aim bonus at an overlapping plane in its fire arc, the shot is considered to be short range.
    The comic cannot fire at long range after a steep manoeuvre.
    (s.9 - WGF209C Sopwith 11/2 Strutter Comic)

    Fixed higher Machine Guns: (Advanced rules)
    The machine gun on the upper wing of the Comic can be fixed to fire upward. If altitude rules are in use the Comic can fire at long range with a +1 aim bonus at an overlapping plane in its fire arc exactly one altitude level above. It can also fire at short range with a +1 aim bonus at airplanes overlapping its firing arc at the same altitude level unless the firer has climb counters and the target does not.
    The comic cannot fire at long range at targets at the same altitude level after a steep manoeuvre and it cannot fire at any target at a lower altitude level.
    (s.9- WGF209C Sopwith 11/2 Strutter Comic)

    Alternative Armament:
    The machine gun on the upper wing was sometimes removed. In this case the airplane fires with B damage instead of A.
    (s.3a - WGF117B Nieuport 17)
    and
    Alternative Armament:
    The airplane has a second machinegun on the fuselage in addition to the one placed on the upper wing. In this case the airplane fires with A damage instead of B.
    (TnT - WGF125A - Nieuport 16 Albert Ball; WGF125B - Nieuport 16 Jean Navarre)

    Unreachable Machine Guns:
    The Phoenix D.I machine guns were well forward in the fuselage out of reach of the pilot. So if this rule is in use a jammed machine gun cannot be un-jammed.
    (s.9 - WGF121A/B/C Phönix D.I)(s.3a - WGF118B [A-H] Albatros D.III)
    (This can be applied to a Pfalz D.III and over-wing Lewis guns on the Cotton/Betts DH4)

    Rockets Only:
    The Nieuport 11 agility suffered when both Rockets and Machine gun were used. The player can decide to have just rockets, just machine gun, or, both rockets and machine gun.
    If the machine is equipped with rockets only for the game put this card face up beside the mat to remember the machine gun cannot be used.
    (s.9 - WGF122C Nieuport 11)

    Rockets and Machine Gun:
    The Nieuport 11 agility suffered when both Rockets and Machine gun were used. The player can decide to have just rockets, just machine gun, or, both rockets and machine gun.
    If the machine is equipped with rockets and machinegun for the game put this card face up beside the mat to remember the machine gun can be used but right sideslips (cards 13/20, 14/20, 17/20)
    and left sideslips (cards 15/20, 16/20, 18/20) cannot both be used in the same turn.(ie you can't sideslip left and right in the same turn)
    (s.9 - WGF122C Nieuport 11)

    Flying Doctrine:
    The two seater versions of the Sopwith 1½ Strutter were able to perform reversals but initially because of training and doctrine, crews did not attempt such acrobatic manoeuvres.
    If this rule is in use remove the Immelmann turn from the two-seater Strutter's manoeuvre deck.
    (s.9 - WGF209A/B Sopwith 11/2 Strutter)

    Rookie Observer:
    A rookie observer un-jams a rear machine gun slower - take four jam tokens instead of three.
    When a rookie observer fires the rear machine gun all the damage he causes is resolved after the simultaneous fire of all the non-rookie crewmen. If the rookie observer is killed he does not get to return fire (unless he is killed by another rookie)
    (s.9 & RAP)(3a - WGF206B RAF R.E.8; WGF205A Ufag C.I)(s.9 - WGF210C Albatros C.III)

    Rookie Pilot:
    A rookie pilot cannot fire the forward machine guns immediately after executing a steep manoeuvre, an Immelmann turn or a split S or climb.
    He is slow to un-jam the MG, take four jammed counters instead of three, or, five if he is wounded.
    When a rookie pilot fires the forward machine gun all the damage he causes is resolved after the simultaneous fire of all the non-rookie crewmen. If the rookie pilot is killed he does not get to return fire (unless he is killed by another rookie)
    A rookie pilot does not suffer additional penalties the first time he is wounded; if the optional tailing rule is in use he cannot tail.
    (s.9 & RAP)(3a - WGF206B RAF R.E.8; WGF205A Ufag C.I)(s.9 - WGF210C Albatros C.III)

    Loss of Control:
    Wounded pilots are replaced by crewmen with Expert Pilot skill without incident.
    If the only active pilot of an airplane is killed and replaced by a crewman with a Rookie Pilot or Expert pilot in the first or second action phase of a turn use a stall (as if it were a non-steep manoeuvre) in the next action phase, instead of the planned manoeuvre.
    In addition, if he was killed in the first action phase, discard the third phase card and replace it with the card planned for the second phase. (The card in the second phase will be a non-steep stall)
    if a pilot is killed and replaced in the third action phase, the first manoeuvre of the next turn must be a stall. consider it a non-steep manoeuvre.
    Most multi-engine airplanes have two pilot roles. If both pilots are still active (not incapacitated) the procedure above does not apply.
    (Giant's set)

    Fire Rule for Giants:
    The new optional rule that came with the Giants of the Sky release regarding fire is this:
    Aircraft with 20-29 points of damage resistance - when exchanging a fire token take one A and one B damage cards.
    Aircraft with 30 points of damage resistance or more - when exchanging a fire token take two A damage cards.
    (eg Staaken & HP 0/400 would take 2x A damage per token, Gotha & Caproni would take 1xA & 1xB damage per token)
    This rule does not apply to balloons.
    (Giant's set)

    No Explosion Rule:
    If this optional rule is in use an 'Explosion' special damage card does not eliminate the aircraft but inflicts damage equal to half of its original damage allowance. (eg: Boom on Staaken would =17; on a HP 0/400 =15)
    This rule does not apply to balloons, or, ground targets.
    (Giant's set)

    Emergency Controls:
    When the pilot is incapacitated the plane is not shot down. It can be piloted by the observer with a reduced manoeuvre deck composed of three straights, two turns to the left, two turns to the right and a stall. The observer cannot do anything else except move - no firing, un-jamming, taking pictures, bombing etc. he can use his skills normally if any.
    (s.3a - WGF206A/B/C RAF R.E.8)

    Lockable Controls:
    Albatros fighters had a special mechanism to lock controls, freeing the pilot's hands so machine guns could be un-jammed. If this optional rule is in use, in the phase in which the machine guns jam, the pilot may decide to lock controls and speed up un-jamming. Immediately discard one jammed machine guns counter. Until all jammed machine guns counters are removed replace all planned manoeuvres with straights. (ie remove one counter and fly straights until remaining counters removed)
    (s.3a WGF118A/B/C Albatros D.III)

    Additional Machine Gun:
    Several R.E.8 of 52 Squadron had twin machine guns for the observer, instead of just one.When the observer fires deal A damage cards instead of B cards.
    (s.3a - WGF206B RAF R.E.8 )

    2 Pdr. Davis Gun:
    An R.E.8 of 30 squadron had a recoil-less 1.57" Davis Gun, besides its two machine guns, shooting 45deg downward. It was on the starboard side of the observer cockpit. Instead of firing the machine gun, the observer can fire at a ground target overlapping the airplane, or, in its front firing arc within one ruler dealing a C damage card. Before it can shoot again the observer must spend three consecutive actions reloading it doing nothing else - for example no firing, un-jamming, taking pictures, bombing etc
    (s.3a - WGF206A RAF R.E.8 )

    Experimental Armament:
    In 1918 a second frontal machine gun was tried on the UFAG C.I. This special armament was never adopted to standard production. When this airplane fires in its frontal firing arc it deals A damage cards, instead of B cards.
    (s.3a - WGF205A Ufag C.I)


    Again, I have copied Ace Abilities and Optional Rules in this thread to a Word Doc that I've put in the WW1 Files under Game Aides - that you can find linked here

    WOW & WOG Complete Listing Jun 2017 by Skystalker links cards to models


    Series 9:

    WGF121A Phönix D.I (w/ Unreachable Machine Guns) Fregattenleutnant Friedrich Lang (Level 01; Sniper) Kaiserliche und Koenigliche Seeflieger Seeflugstation Pola (X/A)

    WGF121B Phönix D.I (w/ Unreachable Machine Guns) Stabsfeldwebel Karl Urban (Level 01; Acrobatic Pilot) Kaiserliche und Koenigliche Luftfahrtruppen Flik 14J (X/A)

    WGF121C Phönix D.I (w/ Unreachable Machine Guns) Stabsfeldwebel Kurt Gruber (Level 01 & 02; Perfect Aim, Acrobatic Pilot) Kaiserliche und Koenigliche Luftfahrtruppen Flik 60J (X/A)

    WGF122A Nieuport 11 (w/two Higher Machine Gun cards) Sous-Lt. Jean Chaput (Level 01; Perfect Aim) Aeronautique Militaire Escadrille N57 (E/B)

    WGF122B Nieuport 11 (w/two Higher Machine Gun cards) Lt. Armand De Turenne (Level 01 Team Coordination) Aeronautique Militaire Escadrille N48 (E/B)

    WGF122C Nieuport 11 (w/two Higher Machine Gun cards, Rockets only, or Rockets and Machine Gun) Sottotenete Giovanni Ancillotto (Level 01 & 02 Balloon Buster, Acrobatic Pilot) Regio Esercito 77th Squadriglia (E/B)

    WGF209A Sopwith 11/2 Strutter (w/ Flying Doctrine card) Sous-Lts. Dieudonné Costes & Henri Astor (Level 01; Sharp Eye) Aeronautique Militaire Escadrille N391 (V/B/B)

    WGF209B Sopwith 11/2 Strutter (w/ Flying Doctrine card) Flight Sub-Lt. Raymond Collishaw & AM 1st Class R.S. Portsmouth (Level 01;Sniper) Royal Naval Air Sevice 10 Naval (V/B/B)
    NOTE: The aircraft card for this item mistakenly displays the squadron assignment as “Escadrille N391”

    WGF209C Sopwith 11/2 Strutter Comic (w/two Fixed Higher Machine Gun cards) Unknown Pilot Royal Air Force 78th Squadron (V/A)

    WGF210A Albatros C.III Leutnants Erwin Böhme & Ladermacher (Level 01; Perfect Aim) Luftstreitkräfte Kasta 10 Kagohl 2 (Y/B/B)

    WGF210B Albatros C.III Leutnant Emil Meinecke & Oberleutnant Ott (Level 01;Weapon Specialist) Umur-u-Havaiye Müfettisliĝi 6 Bôlük (Y/B/B)

    WGF210C Albatros C.III Unbekannter Pilot (Rookie Pilot & Rookie Observer Cards) Luftstreitkräfte (Y/B/B)

    Series 3a:

    WGF117A Nieuport 17 Capitano Francesco Baracca (Level 01 & 02; Acrobatic Pilot, Chivalrous Aptitude, Perfect Aim and Sniper) Regio Esercito 70A Squadriglia; 91A Squadriglia (I/B)

    WGF117B Nieuport 17 (w/ Alternative Armament & 2 Higher Machine Gun Cards) Sous-Lt. Charles Nungesser (Level 01 & 02; Shadower and Sniper) Aéronautique Militaire Escadrille N65 (I/A)

    WGF117C Nieuport 17 (w/ 2 Higher Machine Gun Cards) Adjutant Gervias Raoul Lufbery (level 01; Bullet Checker) Aéronautique Militaire Escadrille N124 “Lafayette” AND Major William Thaw (Level 01; Acrobatic Pilot) US Air Service 103rd Aero Squadron/ 3rd Pursuit Group (I/A)

    WGF118A Albatros D.III (w/Lockable Controls) Lt. Hermann Frommherz (Level 01 & 02; Sniper & Expert Trainer) Luftstreitkräfte Jasta 2 “Boelcke” (J/A)

    WGF118B Albatros D.III (w/Unreachable Machine Guns & Lockable Controls) Stabsfeldwebel Kurt Gruber (Level 01;Perfect Aim) K.U.K Luftfahrtruppen Flick 41J/Flik 60J (J/A)

    WGF118C Albatros D.III (w/Lockable Controls) Leutnant Manfred von Richthofen (Level 04; Acrobatic Pilot, Itchy Trigger Finger, Sniper & Super Ace) Luftstreitkrafte Jasta 11 (J/A)

    WGF205A Ufag C.I (w/ Experimental Armament) Unbekannter Pilot (Rookie Pilot & Rookie Observer) Kaiserliche und Koenigliche Luftfahrtruppen 161-37 (H/B/B)

    WGF205B Ufag C.I Unbekannter Pilot (Fire Expert, Perfect Bombardier & Photo Expert) Kaiserliche und Koenigliche Luftfahrtruppen Flik 62/S (H/B/B)

    WGF205C Ufag C.I Unbekannter Pilot (Precision Bombardier, Sniper & Weapon Specialist) Kaiserliche und Koenigliche Luftfahrtruppen 161-138 (H/B/B)

    WGF206A RAF R.E.8 (w/ 2 Pdr. Davis Gun & Emergency Controls) Unknown Pilot (Photo Expert & Precision Bombardier) Royal Flying Corps 30 Squadron (K/B/B)

    WGF206B RAF R.E.8 (w/ Additional Machine Gun & Emergency Controls) 2nd Lts. G.R.T. Marsh & I. Mackay Dempster (Rookie Pilot & Rookie Observer) Royal Flying Corps 52 Squadron (K/B/B)

    WGF206C RAF R.E.8 (w/ Emergency Controls) Unknown Pilot (Bullet Checker, Precision Bombardier & Technical Eye) Royal Flying Corps 59 Squadron (K/B/B)

    WGF125A - Nieuport 16 (w/two Higher Machine Gun cards & Alternative Armament card) Albert Ball (Level 01 & 02 Sneak Attack, Perfect Aim) 11 & 60 Squadron RFC.

    WGF125B - Nieuport 16 (w/two Higher Machine Gun cards & Alternative Armament card) Jean Navarre (Level 01 & 02 Sniper, Sneak Attack) Escadrille N.67
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    Yeah.

    Now we need to highlight this for everyone to find easily. At least sticky it to the top of the WWI Rules section.

    Thanks for doing this Dave.
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    Nice work there Dave.
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    Great work, Flash.

    Have just one Q though. the Split-S.
    Isn't that done: stall-immel-straight.

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    Yes it is PG. The question shown is about making an immelmann turn using a stall rather than a straight before the immel card itself rather than can a stall ever be played before an immel which it can in a split S of course.
    I lifted the wording for both questions and answers straight from the threads in most cases so it is not mine and they may need to be made clearer - this is something I will get to in due course - hopefully I have clarified it above ?

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    Very helpful especially with me getting back in the saddle as it were.

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    Great stuff, Dave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Yes it is PG. The question shown is about making an immelmann turn using a stall rather than a straight before the immel card itself rather than can a stall ever be played before an immel which it can in a split S of course.
    I lifted the wording for both questions and answers straight from the threads in most cases so it is not mine and they may need to be made clearer - this is something I will get to in due course - hopefully I have clarified it above ?

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    Really well done, Dave.
    ARES should place your FAQ on their site in the Download section.
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    Too much time on your hands Dave, but bloody good job
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    You're not wrong Gunners!

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    Thanks, Dave. This will be a great reference.
    I really need to get my feet wet with altitude - been putting it off for a while ...

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    A simple solution to all those vexing questions. Thanks Dave


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    Superb idea Dave.
    Would you like me to stick this thread?
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    It needs sticking Rob. Too valuable to lose.
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    Thanks for putting that together, Dave. Extremely useful.

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    The new optional rules that came with the Giants of the Sky release regarding fire and 'no explosion' added to the list as these can be applied to the Gotha & Caproni models as well (and any other Giant come to that !)

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    Cheers Dave .


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    Must read those sometime then.
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    Superb work Dave!
    Your dedication to the Game deserves a MEDAL!

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    Great work - I agree, this should be on the ARES site!

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    I have added the new ace skills & rule options that came with Series 9, if there are any errors, or, I have missed any then please let me know so I can make corrections. This will be a temporary addition. I may do a document of all the ace skills and link to that if there is a demand for it.

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    More Kudos to Dave chaps.
    Kyte.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    More Kudos to Dave chaps.
    Kyte.
    Yes many, many thanks to flash for his ongoing great work on this & the OTT Campaigns.

    "Its a fine line indeed between going out in a Blaze of Glory or having Crashed & Burnt!"
    Member Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians

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    I have added all the ace skills & rule options that I can find including those that came with Series 9, if there are any errors, or, I have missed any then please let me know so I can make corrections. This may be a temporary addition as I may do a document of all the ace skills and link to that if there is a demand for it.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Thanks for your time and effort with this info.

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    I just found this. Thank you. I'll still reading it over, I love it.

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    Thank you very much, Dave for compiling this very valuable list.

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    Lacey gazed up from his deckchair at a droning dot high in the burning blue.
    "Who is that?" He asked idly, of no-one in particular.
    "Brown, Sir." Answered the mess steward. "The one with the silly coloured tailplane."
    "He's jolly well been up there for ages, he can't have much petrol left."
    "No Sir, I understand from Mr Barker that he is...stuck, Sir."
    "Stuck?!" ejaculated Lacey, "how so?"

    The steward followed his upward gaze and sadly offered: "I understand that he tangled with a Hun earlier, Sir. Got his kite badly shot up and was winged himself, or So Captain Barker says."

    Lacey levered himself to his feet and looked quizzical. "But why 'stuck' man?"

    "Ah," the batman replied "as you have probably noticed Sir, the C dive card is a 'steep' and according to the rules of war, a wounded pilot may not plan a steep manoeuvre."

    "Bugger!" Lacey said, "Poor blighter could be up there for months! Fetch the CO and ask him for an emergency house rule would you? - that or a 12000 foot ladder."
    Last edited by AlgyLacey; 04-19-2017 at 05:47.

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    Nice one Dave!
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlgyLacey View Post
    Lacey gazed up from his deckchair at a droning dot high in the burning blue.
    "Who is that?" He asked idly, of no-one in particular.
    "Brown, Sir." Answered the mess steward. "The one with the silly coloured tailplane."
    "He's jolly well been up there for ages, he can't have much petrol left."
    "No Sir, I understand from Mr Barker that he is...stuck, Sir."
    "Stuck?!" ejaculated Lacey, "how so?"

    The steward followed his upward gaze and sadly offered: "I understand that he tangled with a Hun earlier, Sir. Got his kite badly shot up and was winged himself, or So Captain Barker says."

    Lacey levered himself to his feet and looked quizzical. "But why 'stuck' man?"

    "Ah," the batman replied "as you have probably noticed Sir, the C dive card is a 'steep' and according to the rules of war, a wounded pilot may not plan a steep manoeuvre."

    "Bugger!" Lacey said, "Poor blighter could be up there for months! Fetch the CO and ask him for an emergency house rule would you? - that or a 12000 foot ladder."
    Oh that's very good!
    Karl
    It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus

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    Excellent one Dave!

    "Its a fine line indeed between going out in a Blaze of Glory or having Crashed & Burnt!"
    Member Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlgyLacey View Post
    .... ".... the C dive card is a 'steep' and according to the rules of war, a wounded pilot may not plan a steep manoeuvre."
    They can in our rule book - perhaps he should use that !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    ??? A wounded pilot cannot SHOOT on a 'steep' card - there's nothing to stop him planning and playing one.

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    I have created a Word doc detailing the ace skills and optional rules shown in this thread and placed it in the WW1 files under Game Aides should anyone wish to have a copy to refer to. I have linked it here and in the first post.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Thanks Dave.
    Glad we finally got that sorted out.
    I assume that Keith did it?
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Yes, he kindly found a moment in his travels.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Nice one Dave , a great help for those of us who need to keep smelling the Rosemary


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    I have created a Word doc detailing the ace skills and optional rules shown in this thread and placed it in the WW1 files under Game Aides should anyone wish to have a copy to refer to. I have linked it here and in the first post.
    Thank you! I will definitely down load this a take a look. Thanks again.

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    This is awesome. Can you add the points to the next version? I'll definitely add this to my kit, I hope you can keep it up to date.


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    I won't be adding points Ken but this is why I used a Word doc so those who want to can easily make additions and manipulate the info themselves.
    It will of course be kept up to date when I get info on new releases.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Thanks for the hard work!

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    Thanks Andrew, I'm glad it's been of some help to you.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Hi
    Recently acquired Nieuport 17 Charles Nungesser and realise he has two Pilot cards. Level 1 and Level 2.

    Does he start on Level 1 and progress to level 2 during the game or can he use any level.

    Can't seem to find any reference to this question anywhere

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijo58 View Post
    Hi
    Recently acquired Nieuport 17 Charles Nungesser and realise he has two Pilot cards. Level 1 and Level 2.

    Does he start on Level 1 and progress to level 2 during the game or can he use any level.

    Can't seem to find any reference to this question anywhere

    Ian
    Entirely up to you Ian. but the norm would be to start at L1 and progress as as he survives his sorties.


    I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings
    Coming down is the hardest thing

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    Firing Rear Gunner During Immelmann:
    Page 14 of the RAP Rulebook states: "airplanes cannot fire at a target in the rear firing arc immediately after using [the Immelmann] manoeuvre card or after the manoeuvre card played just before or just after it." (emphasis added)
    Q: does this really mean "or" (as in the player has a choice regarding when not to fire - either during the Immelmann card phase, or the phases immediately preceding or following the Immelmann card), or does it instead mean "and" (as in the player may not fire during the phases immediately before, during, and after the playing of an Immelman card)?
    A: Andrea says: "I meant all three manoeuvres"
    http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...Immelmann-Turn



    so if i end my current plot with a straight in case i might want to do an immalmann on my next plot and the rear gunner fired does that mean im then prohibited from starting with an immalmann on my next plot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milcoll73 View Post
    ...so if I end my current plot with a straight in case I might want to do an Immelmann on my next plot and the rear gunner fired does that mean I'm then prohibited from starting with an Immelmann on my next plot?
    More like if you end your current plot with a straight in case you might want to do an Immelmann on your next plot your rear gunner should not fire but essentially it means that if he does fire you can't Immel - or maybe you can Immel but the gunner gets tossed out.... ?!
    Maybe it needs some sort of penalty like a jam after the 3 Immelmann manoeuvre cards ?
    So if in those circumstances he fires on the first straight - no fire on the Immel - no fire on the second straight - then no fire on the next card he could shoot on. That would at least transfer & take account of the no fire penalty.
    Having said that, not firing your rear gunner on a straight at the end of the turn could work great to fake someone out - they look to counter your Immel but you do something else.
    Personally I think this should just have been applied to after the Immel card but I don't write the rules !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    More like if you end your current plot with a straight in case you might want to do an Immelmann on your next plot your rear gunner should not fire but essentially it means that if he does fire you can't Immel - or maybe you can Immel but the gunner gets tossed out.... ?!
    Maybe it needs some sort of penalty like a jam after the 3 Immelmann manoeuvre cards ?
    So if in those circumstances he fires on the first straight - no fire on the Immel - no fire on the second straight - then no fire on the next card he could shoot on. That would at least transfer & take account of the no fire penalty.
    Having said that, not firing your rear gunner on a straight at the end of the turn could work great to fake someone out - they look to counter your Immel but you do something else.
    Personally I think this should just have been applied to after the Immel card but I don't write the rules !




    yes it could, but it could also telegraph if you really want to do an immelmann.

    i honestly dont think the prohibition on the 1st straight is all the necessary for just this situation. when we play it we pretty much house rule it to ignore the whole fire prohibition just to keep it simple.

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