Maybe they ate pomegranates and raspberriesOriginally Posted by csadn
If it's monkeys, shouldn't that ball be Brown? >
Karl
Maybe they ate pomegranates and raspberriesIf it's monkeys, shouldn't that ball be Brown? >
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
Awesome images Sam! Its always great to see such images. Thank you.
I would love some Bubble Tops, just to paint them in Brazilian colors.Now that we have a great combination of Italian and German planes, the only thing missing is these P-47.
Thanks
Nick
I'm afraid that like those of us who have been with Wings from the start, you will learn that things move slowly on the distribution front Nick. Patience is essential, and if you don't have it the waiting can be very frustrating. Believe me when I tell you that releases are coming faster now than they have ever done.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Very true Rob, even though we had a year between releases for WGS miniatures, things have vastly improved. I think Ares does all they can to move things along, but like all things, it takes time and I am sure a lot of patience when dealing with Chinese manufacturing (if it is anything like what we go through in my place of employment when dealing with Chinese factories).
That's a good point, Rob. It's easy to lose perspective and grow frustrated with the waiting... even though matters have improved dramatically. I'll need to keep this in mind while I wait for the (hopeful) reprint of Series 4.
So I've been thinking abit about some releases I would like to see. I remember Oberst telling us to shoot some ideas out there so here are mine:
So far Series 6 and a BoB deluxe set seem like they are concrete from what I've heard.
Series 7 also seems more or less decided.
Firstly I think some re prints are MUCH needed on the top sellers from Series 1 and 2 like all the 109s and Bader's Hurricane should be top priority imho. They are impossible to find and from what I can gather the demand is still quite high for them.
Then series 6 Yokosuka D4Y, SBD-5 Dauntless, Bf109K (Would prefer a G but can't complain), P-47 Thunderbolt all sound great to me.
Then the new BoB starter set
Then some additions to Axis bombers like Ju88, Do217, G3M, G4M to match the heavies we got not long ago
I personally think Series 7 is fantastic except I think one change that absolutely has to be made is change the Me410 for a Ki-45 Nick. This is for the most part a Pacific themed series and the 410 is out of place here. The Germans already have a twin engine fighter in the 110 and the Japanese have none.
The luftwaffe will get some love in the BoB releases where I think more 109s (I know I'm repeating myself but we need more early 109s!!) and definitely some Fw190As
Then after all that some Russian, Italian, RAAF and RNZAF planes would be great to fill in some big and small gaps
Then a flying boat release would be crazy cool like a Short Sunderland, PBY Catalina, Emily and B&V V222 Wiking
Ok I think that's enough ranting for now.
What do you think guys?
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You sum it up very well, Sam.
Here is my opinion:
Personally I can live very good with a late war heavy fighter for the Luftwaffe, because you need opponents for late war US B17s and their massive escort of P-38s, P-51s and P-47.
Would you send BoB Messerschmitt reprints versus B17Gs?
That's why the Bf.109K fits that good to the US plane releases.
I would not cry that loud if we get a Japanese twin engined fighter instead of the Me.410, but this means "less food" for my US-Fighters.
More Axis medium bombers like a Ju88 (nighfighter versions possible!) or a GM4 Betty sounds good. A Vickers Wellington would be fine too, but we have the very nice Lancasters at the moment. (I love them!)
RAAF & RNZAf paint shemes would be wonderful for the Pacific.
Russians & Italians? A clear personal "No"!
I see those big & small gaps in the moment at the theaters I'm interested the most: Western Europe, Pacific and the nightfight. Series 6 & 7 will fill some and I like it, how the new series are announced.
I would support a Kickstarter project for a PBY Catalina flyboat.
Last edited by Marechallannes; 01-14-2015 at 00:54.
Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!
Some (another) notes of mine
Of course every new plane will be warm-welcomed, no doubt about it, but...
Fw-190A should replace Bf 109K for just OBVIOUS reason: longer period of operational history, many variants and much more possible fronts to cover. It would just fit perfectly in Lufftwaffe range. Bf 109K is an odd choice.
With Me-410 it is even worse. It was a nice looking bird, sure. But ...not only it's performance was below expectations, but it's operational usage was very limited. It should be replaced with Ju-88, for the same reasons as it is with Fw-190.
No objection to other planes.
Sometimes I wonder what pushed NEXUS/ARES to publish those niche aircraft instead of those most popular and famous ones. Anybody knows?
"We do not stop playing when we get old, but we get old when we stop playing."
It's one of the few things we did not get a proper answer for in the interview with Roberto Di Meglio, Andy.
Maybe next time we must ask that question.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Without a doubt!
An absolute must!
I would argue with neither of these developments.
Andrzej makes some good points... I'm not so against the 109K (I would probably prefer a late-model G, however), but the 410 is a head-scratcher considering the absence of a 190.
My assumption has always been "availability": I can get the well-known units any of half-a-dozen places; the rara avis, tho'....
(Of course, if I mentioned the *other* reason, I'd probably get Banned.... :P )
But not with official cards and stats.
well, maybe; though we're a rather tolerant bunch here
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
That's as may be -- there's still no money to be made in an overcrowded market. (This wouldn't be a problem if they still sold card-only sets....)
So no other ideas on what people would like to see released?
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I personally think Series 7 is fantastic except I think one change that absolutely has to be made is change the Me410 for a Ki-45 Nick. This is for the most part a Pacific themed series and the 410 is out of place here. The Germans already have a twin engine fighter in the 110 and the Japanese have none. [Quote]
I have to dissagree partly on that point. I think that the Me410 is a must for games with B17's that and the Fw190 are going to make an exciteing challenge to games with the B17's
I also agree that a Ki-45 (Nick) would also be good but have that insted of the Nakajima Ki-48 which I have no intrest in.
[Quote]Then a flying boat release would be crazy cool like a Short Sunderland, PBY Catalina, Emily and B&V V222 Wiking[Quote]
Unfortunatly I do not think these will see the light of day with these at ARES so we will have to reley on Clipper and AMI. I have a Clipper Sunderland and it is excellent and I do not belive ARES could do a better jobAlso I have read that AMI are making an Emily, and as much as I dislike shapeways they do a good Catalina.
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Sure, but this wasn't your question.
If you check the complete thread you'll get an idea what people prefer to be released next.
Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!
I know Rob, I know.Im just dreaming. I've already tasted from the distribution and im aware its not the faster. Im just saying that when (if) we have Buble Tops, i will paint them in Brazilian colors.
Thanks
Nick
So you're going to...
[sunglasses]
...GIVE YOUR MINIS A BRAZILIAN JOB?
B)
I hope this isnt what im thinking....
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
*smacks French with live trout*
These remarks are not the usual news and announcements we expect on this thread.
They should be confined to the Hobby Forum please chaps.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
No, no -- the trout is for bad *puns*.
No kidding -- in the old _Babylon 5_ group up here, they had "Thwap, The Trout Of Discipline"; make a bad pun, get Thwap-ped. Of course, when The SO mentioned this to me, my response was:
[sunglasses]
"Ah, it's a fish shtick."
B)
P-38 vs 410. Might be just enough to drag me out of the great war.
Produce a Mozzie, and I'm a convert.
Actually, the 109K does make a little sense when paired with the Jug, Ares is trying to fill the Jabo niche for both sides. If memory serves, there was a squadron of 109K-4s down in the MTO that specialized in anti-ship warfare and bagged themselves a cruiser...
JG77 had a hand in sinking HMS _Fiji_ off Crete 22 May '41, but there were other units involved as well.
I'm tired of looking at the Series 6 thread, so I thought I'd follow up with this one. I know it was subject to change, have any changes been considered?
I certainly hope not when it comes to the Corsair and P-38. Although, there are still a bunch of planes I hope that will someday grace my Wings gaming mats in an official capacity, none of which are more important to me than the aforementioned American ones.
Especially, with the long periods now between releases!
German:
JU88
DO217
Japanese:
Ki-45
G4M
Britain:
Wellington
Mosquito
Blenheim
Beaufort
US:
Buffalo
P36
Devastator
B29
B26
Italy:
Fiat Br 20
SM 79
Russia:
Polikarpov I-16
IL2
Lag
Petlyakov PE-8
Special Flying Boats
Do24
PBY Catalina
Kawanishi H6K
Sunderland
See you on the Dark Side......
I am quietly hoping for a later mark of Chance Vought Corsair than the F4U-1 pictured at the start of this thread. Only because I'm hoping to see a Corsair Mk IV released in the line up however this may prove to be a little too nichey ... The F4U-1D wouldn't though. Also noticed how there is nothing British like the Hawker Typhoon Mk Ib or Tempest Mk V one of which arose from the other so this would probably be an either / or choice.
Lockheed P-38 Lightnings are another type I cannot wait to see released as an officialfor the game even though the performance between the various marks varies quite dramatically.
The Messerschmitt 410 if I remember correctly from the 1/72 Matchbox model of the 1980s is potentially another forward-firing cannon armed aircraft. Not too familiar with the Ki-44 so it's read-up time here and for the Me 410 as kits built a long time ago is hardly a sound knowledge basis!
Me410 nose cannon covered a lot of ground -- baseline was twin 20mm (plus 2-4 0.30-cal.); twin 30mm were tried, and even a solo 50mm. And that's not counting the "six-gun" revolver-style 210mm rocket launcher....The Messerschmitt 410 if I remember correctly from the 1/72 Matchbox model of the 1980s is potentially another forward-firing cannon armed aircraft. Not too familiar with the Ki-44 so it's read-up time here and for the Me 410 as kits built a long time ago is hardly a sound knowledge basis!
The Me 410 also had two rearward firing 13mm guns in remotely controlled barbettes (one gun in each) mounted on each side of the fuselage.
Which weapons could be summarized with Mark Twain's quote about the derringer he carried: "It was grand. It had one fault -- one could not hit anything with it." :)
However, since the barbettes couldn't fire forward (IIRC, the best they could manage was about 45 degrees up or down from straight ahead), they don't enter into the "forward-firing cannon" debate.
Meh... not so excited for the 410. A P-38 ("J" or "L" model, please), on the other hand, would hold my attention. Completely agree that "The Wooden Wonder" is long overdue.
When Series 7 is release in 2018 I am going to grab two handfuls of Corsairs! I do hope they print x3 USA, especially considering what the British did to the Lend-Lease planes.
We didn't chop the wingtips of all of the Chance Vought Corsairs we received
For that, we shoulda shipped you Brewster F3A Corsairs--a plant so horribly mismanaged that even the NAVY taking over running the company themselves couldn't deliver a bird fit for any use beyond training.
:P
There are some misconceptions about the Brewster built Corsairs. The biggest is the quality control issue, usually citing wing failure during dives. The fact is that such stories are not true. The U.S. Navy found no quality problems in the Corsairs as they accepted them for service in the U.S. or for the Lend-Lease program. Brewster's problem was poor management and accounting. They were never a large company and produced few Corsairs compared to Vought and Goodyear, but Brewster's output was actually pretty good considering the size of the company.
Brewster produced only a few of the birdcage canopy F3A-1's, approximately 68, before switching production to the raised canopy F3A-1 (aka F3A-1A). Brewster did not finish any F3A-1D's as the company was shut down by the government before -1D production could begin and there is no record of the navy accepting a F3A-1D.
Of the 735 Corsairs produced by Brewster, 430 were sent to the British under the Lend-Lease program. The rest were used for training pilots in the U.S.
Long time ago (October 2014) our dear commander said:It's now Middle February 2016...
I was going to say something about dumping them in the sea like tea into the Boston harbor, just to show the great lengths I will go to arrive at bad history jokes...We didn't chop the wingtips of all of the Chance Vought Corsairs we received
Also notice the year above I anticipate the release, that would be humor more along the lines of science fiction.
The Royal Navy figured out how to land Corsairs on carriers before the U.S. Navy.
We preferred to house our Corsairs on islands and launch Wildcats from carriers.
But my comments were all meant for fun, do not take them too seriously...
Understanding the nature and intent of your comments... I still doubt this will be the case. Not because of numbers produced, who used them, what they did to them, etc., but because USN & USMC color schemes in the PTO are reasonably uniform (at least by year). Lots of blue and grey. Not particularly exciting. Including a Fleet Air Arm or RNZAF Corsair might allow for a little variety.We preferred to house our Corsairs on islands and launch Wildcats from carriers.
But my comments were all meant for fun, do not take them too seriously...
Similar to the Free French A-24 Banshee (Dauntless) we're going to be getting at some point in the future.
I get it. Nothing stopping me from getting x3 each of the 2 I will want I suppose. Same thing in the end as x2 of 3!
Exactly!I'm in a similar situation concerning the Free French A-24. Not convinced I need one.
Not sure about outright dismissal of the incoming A-24B Banshee as I was initially sceptical about whenever I finally got hold of the French P-40F Warhawk. Then when I did finally get it I did a little research and some thinking out of the box and found a use for itExactly!
Thinking about the choice of upcoming models in WGS, does it seem that Ares are now trying to find potential 'Dogfight Doubles' as a response to our criticisms in the past?
That's a fair point, Barney. My Free French P-40 converted nicely to a DAF P-40 flown by a member of the RAAF. No reason that A-24 can't serve as an USAAF A-24. Plus, who asn I kidding. I've collected all of them so far... almost feel obligated to continue.Not sure about outright dismissal of the incoming A-24B Banshee as I was initially sceptical about whenever I finally got hold of the French P-40F Warhawk. Then when I did finally get it I did a little research and some thinking out of the box and found a use for it
CAC Wirraway and/or Boomerang.
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