Awesome! really keen on the Nieuports.
Awesome! really keen on the Nieuports.
What about these:
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They will not, and it is not a matter of cost. Several similar possibilities, as detachable masts for Sails of Glory ships to take into account broken masts or detachable sails to teke into account if the ship is at full sails or not (our first prototype, handmade by Andrea Mainini, has both)
were discarded for at least two main reasons:
- our models are first of all game tokens, and they have to be very sturdy, while such features make them easier to break;
- our models have to be nice, and the snap-in mechanisms usually bring to oversize details with a bad visual effect.
We will have several miniatures, and some details will differ as we had different weapons, engines or similar details on previous models. The Italian plane will have rockets, the two French planes will not.
It's here, at the Aerodrome, believe or not:
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...l=1#post207638
I, of course, vote for Le Mome - French markings, but used by Serbian aviation
Another interesting set; all pretty much 1916 (except, as Zoe would point out, Russia, where the Ni.11 and Strutters would be used until they fell apart),
except the Phoenix D.I, which is just 1918.
A note for realistically minded house-rules writers: the D.I had the guns buried in the fuselage. Jams couldn't be cleared!
I wonder if the Albatross C.IIIs will be armed with a front gun or not; or if they will have a mix, like the Roland C.II?
I'll admit not having much in the 1916 time frame, and not that interested either; I like mid-17 til the end and beyond.
I'll probably get 1 each, for completeness (though I'll skip the rocket-armed Ni.11; sorry Andrea), except a few extra C.IIIs, and a batch of Strutters.
Karl'
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Macchi M.5Karl,
Except with the Russians, I must disagree with your time frames.
G. Ancillotto balloon victories were 30 Nov 1917 and 3 Dec 1917. Italians used the N11 throughout 1917.
See my earlier posting about the Albatros C.III used widely until mid 1917.
The French Sopwith Strutter Nov 1917:
351 Strutters were on the front lines used in reconnaissance role the number 1 type of aircraft. The next was 313 A.R. 1/2s
157 Strutters were on the front lines used in the bomber role also the number 1 type of aircraft. The next was 102 Voisin 8s.
Why the Phonix D.I? Used to counter the series 8 Italian Macchi flying boats.
The Phonix D.I 128, 228, 328 series
Flars ordered 120 aircraft. manufacture began Aug 1917 did not finish until May 1918. 11 were accepted in Oct 1917.
The different series simply identified the engine manufacturer. All were equipped with the Hiero 200 hp engines.
Armament was twin machine guns mounted well forward alongside the engine.
Beginning in Dec 1917 it was used as an escort fighter by Fliks 4/D, 15/D, 17/D, 48/D, 54/D, AND 66/D and as fighters in 14/J, 30/J, 60/J, 61/J AND 63/J.
It was easy to fly and most two-seater pilots had little difficulty making the transition.
A number were converted into photo-reconnaissance fighters and some were refitted with the 230 Hiero engine.
Flik 60/J comments were that the speed and climb were inferior to the Nieuports, SPAD and Sopwith fighters they were facing.
Unlike the Avitaik D.I it could dive at high speed without fear of losing its wings.
72 were still in operation at the end of the war.
Twenty Phoenix D.I fighters served in Austro-Hungarian Naval Service for defense of naval bases.
Just saw this and can't wait to get these planes and also see the repaints that are done to them. Good news.
Austria-Hungry started to look for an indigenous built fighter in 1916 since Germany was reluctant to give up its best front line fighters. Austria-Hungry started out with the Phonix built Hansa-Brandenburg D.I(Ph). The Brandenburg was quite tricky to fly and it took the pilots full attention just to keep the aircraft under control. It had a tendency to spin and, like the Sopwith Camel, was almost impossible to recover the spin. The performance of the Brandenburg was discouraging. The improvements that Flars ordered were not totally successful and the remaining fighters were assigned to training units
Phonix used their experience building the Brandedburg to build the Phonix D.I. The Phonix D.I was a great improvement over the Brandenburg, in fact a German Idflieg report stated “it possesses totally amazing qualities, especially the quickness of maneuver and stability when throttled down. The pilot can stall the aircraft virtually on the spot and drop several hundred meters without losing control.”
This Aircraft was very stable and many two seater pilots made the transition into the D.I without incidence. After flying the Hansa-Brandenburg D.I pilots favored the Phonix D.I. However not all was of good report. Flik 60/J reported that the Phonix D.I was not favored, as it was said to be slower than the SPAD and could not maneuver with the Nieuport or the Sopwith fighters.
120 Phonix D.Is were produced between September 1917 and March 1918 of these, 72 were still operational on 1August 1918. It was a very well rounded aircraft with no hidden vices and these numbers speak well of its qualities
Excellent! Must work more... Make more Money... Gosh...
Albatros C.III FTW!!!!!!
An interesting mix. I think I'll probably only go for the Sopwith but there are plenty of others I'm after in Series 8. Overall I'm so, so pleased that this game is still with us and that ARES have fully committed to keep releasing new models. The Sopwith Pup might have been a better choice than the N11 given that we'll have the N17 on a reprint at some point.
I'm too am surprised that the Pup has been passed over again considering it was the only decent British built fighter in the early years.
All look very spectacular but like other I realy do like the Albatros C III with the dragon on it.
So cool plane selections! Right now I need another carrying bag but very soon I have to order the third.
How did I manage to miss this?
I applaud the choice of aircraft.
It fills several holes in my collection, and for once will not duplicate anything I already have from other manufacturers.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
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All excellent choices! BRAVO!
I've broken the Dive card discussion off to it's own thread.
I must admit I'm looking forward to all of these beauties! And there's just something idiosyncratic about the Phoenix that I really like, particularly the naval ones...
They can't get here soon enough.
All the best,
Matt Materne
Really for me it is going to give more chance to do something meaningful with my Italian aircraft at long last.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Series 8 and 9 are looking good and im looking forward to getting my hands on them. On a slightly different subject, can anyone shed any light on when series 3 and 4 reprints will appear and the balloon buster sets?
I think that roughly we will have a reprint alternate to each new series. More or less. Balloons... I am asking fo them, and I am not alone in that. I hope soon. But sorry, I have no real infos on dates.
Thanks Angio i guess that means series 3 reprint is next then. Brumowski Albatros D.III re-release please! - bet you've heard that a million times already
no wait it will be series 8 next wont it? i shouldnt really post when im half asleep. (doh!)
In an attempt to get this thread back on topic, I've move all the separate deck posts to their own thread.
DO anyone know which deck the N11 will get? The P-deck mayby?
I think you are right. I found it in an aircraftlist on the downloadpages.
The E-deck it is!
I am an early war gamer so it's very nice to see the planed release which will realy fill in the gaps
That is a good looking plane, Elijah.
Thanks David,
I had the pleasure of seeing it in person at The Great War Flying Museum. It would be great if they actually released it as a miniature, otherwise I will have to try and customize one...
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