Disc and magnet to P-51

[CappyTom]

So you start with a P-51



Then you cut off the peg and props.





Then you glue a magnet onto one of the flight pegs. I use super-glue gel.



Now I use two tools on my Dremel.



The sharp one to put a pilot hole in the spot where the peg was.



Then the round tip one to put a concave into the surface.



Make sure to rough up the metal ball before gluing it to the plane. Then place a drop of super-glue to the hole.



Now onto the prop. I use 1/2 inch punch to make the props and then I just eyeball the center with a tack.





I then use a rat-tail file to widen the hole till it fits over the prop nose.





This will take time and patience as you get closer to a perfect fit. Then you glue it using super-glue liquid. Just a small drop.



You have to set it up right or the prop will lean one way or the other. Just set it straight then let it dry.
There you have it a fighter ready to go.






Thomas

[clipper1801]

Sweet! Very nice!

[Black Sheep One]

Do you give in home tutoring?

[CappyTom]

Do you give in home tutoring?

You got it buddy. Just bring your planes with ya.

Thomas

[Guntruck]

Yep, that works for me. What do you use to rough up the ballbearing?

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Pretty well the way I do all my aircraft which need a ball Thomas, except I use a drill where you Dremel and tack. You are spot on, it works a treat.
Rob.

[Oberst Hajj]

Nice write up Tom. At Origins I was thinking you clipped off the nose cones and re-attached them after you put the prop on. This is much easier! So you use the same diameter prop from all your WGS minis?

[Zakopious]

Fiddlers Green has a free download for prop disks.
Print them on the clear plastic for overhead projectors.
Cut with scissors or modeling knife if you do not have a punch.
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/other/F...ners/Props.htm

[Oberst Hajj]

The AA site also has laser cut and engraved spinning props. No printing or cutting required Although for WGS, they would need to be filed to fit over the nose cones. But perhaps I could do something about that on the next batch I make (since they are currently sold out).

Tom, what do you think? I'm going to be going to a thinner acrylic on this next production run and I could easily lase some to fit better with the WGS planes. What size should the prop be and how large of a hole should I put in the center? I'm thinking it might be a little difficult to make a prop for each of the minis out there, so maybe a single size for the fighters with a set center hole size that would make it easier for folks to file to a custom fit?

[CappyTom]

Yep, that works for me. What do you use to rough up the ballbearing?

I use a flat file and put the ball on a magnet with my finger next to it then rub rub rub till its dull.

[CappyTom]

Nice write up Tom. At Origins I was thinking you clipped off the nose cones and re-attached them after you put the prop on. This is much easier! So you use the same diameter prop from all your WGS minis?

For all the fighters yes. The medium bombers I use 1 inch and I'm thinking on using a little larger for the big bombers. I like your props but getting them to fit my birds is a lot of filing.

Thomas

[CappyTom]

The AA site also has laser cut and engraved spinning props. No printing or cutting required Although for WGS, they would need to be filed to fit over the nose cones. But perhaps I could do something about that on the next batch I make (since they are currently sold out).

Tom, what do you think? I'm going to be going to a thinner acrylic on this next production run and I could easily lase some to fit better with the WGS planes. What size should the prop be and how large of a hole should I put in the center? I'm thinking it might be a little difficult to make a prop for each of the minis out there, so maybe a single size for the fighters with a set center hole size that would make it easier for folks to file to a custom fit?

If you look at the different planes each nose is different. The Spit and Hurricane have big ones.

[Biggles downunder]

Fiddlers Green has a free download for prop disks.
Print them on the clear plastic for overhead projectors.
Cut with scissors or modeling knife if you do not have a punch.
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/other/F...ners/Props.htm

Nice find!

I love the warning note on the bottom:

'Not for use on models of jets'...

[Nightbomber]

That's just awesome, Thomas. This is the way the model is upgraded two levels! I. it can bank, dive, etc. II. It does not look like ran out of fuel any more! It just looks like "in action".
The rat-tail file is the real solution I was not thinking about.

Mate, now I have a plan for the next ...months... What bothers me is the disk punch. What to use?

BTW, how this game incites peoples creativity! On the other hand - others wouldn't like to play it

[CappyTom]

That's just awesome, Thomas. This is the way the model is upgraded two levels! I. it can bank, dive, etc. II. It does not look like ran out of fuel any more! It just looks like "in action".
The rat-tail file is the real solution I was not thinking about.

Mate, now I have a plan for the next ...months... What bothers me is the disk punch. What to use?

BTW, how this game incites peoples creativity! On the other hand - others wouldn't like to play it

I went to Harbor Freight to get the punches.



Here is the box they came in. They just cost me around $5.00.

Thomas

[Womble]

Nice work Thomas, simple and effective!

[Nightbomber]

Thanks for the idea, Tom. Must go to a hobby store here.

[Black Sheep One]

I went to Harbor Freight to get the punches.



Here is the box they came in. They just cost me around $5.00.

Thomas

Here is the link from Harbor Freight's website for the punch set: http://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece...-set-3838.html

[clipper1801]

I use EK Tools hole punches available on Amazon and most paper crafting shops, they range in size from 1/2" - 2" and run from $5-$20 . . .

[Black Sheep One]

I use EK Tools hole punches available on Amazon and most paper crafting shops, they range in size from 1/2" - 2" and run from $5-$20 . . .

Interesting idea, David. May have to take a trip to Hobby Lobby tonight.

[Flying Officer Kyte]

These are what I use as well Dave, and I find that the plastic windows in the aircraft boxes punch out very well for the prop discs.
Rob.

[Naharaht]

A good piece of work there, Thomas.

[Zakopious]

Nice find!

I love the warning note on the bottom:

'Not for use on models of jets'...

In fact, there were a few instances where jet airframes were tested with piston motors.

"The first Me 262 test flights began on 18 April 1941, but since its intended BMW 003 turbojets were not ready for fitting, a conventional Junkers Jumo 210 engine was mounted in the Me 262 prototype's nose, driving a propeller, to test the Me 262 V1 airframe."

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262

[prymus]

Nice work there Thomas and a very detailed and complete tutorial, thanks.

[CappyTom]

Thanks guys for all the encouragement. My pleasure to share.

[Jager]

Nice write-up Tom; that should get me started.

Karl

[CappyTom]

I also did my first mission at Origins click here to read. And if you have anything to add please do as I was tired and might have forgot stuff.


Thomas

[Black Sheep One]

I use EK Tools hole punches available on Amazon and most paper crafting shops, they range in size from 1/2" - 2" and run from $5-$20 . . .

Got my EK Tools punches, and I love 'em! Thanks for the heads up, David!

[gully_raker]

Great work & tutorial Thomas!

[BobP]

Great info. Glad there a Harbor Freight by my house (2 miles). I have to check it out once again and see what goodies there are. I was looking for ball bearing to mount the 1/144 planes I have but they didn't have any. Now have another reason to go there.

[BobP]

Here are pics of how I mount the F-Toys (1/144) planes that I have.

[BobP]

Here is a finished model and thanks for the tip on where to get the BB's.

[Dowters]

Nice tutorial. I've just done my first few 1/144 scale aircraft and it works great. Can you get larger magnets/BB's for heavier aircraft?

[Flying Officer Kyte]

If I remember rightly somebody has already sourced some larger ones Nigel.
I'm sure they will be along soon to give you chapter and verse.
Rob.

[CappyTom]

Nice tutorial. I've just done my first few 1/144 scale aircraft and it works great. Can you get larger magnets/BB's for heavier aircraft?

I'm sure Keith is already working on it.

[Tyrell63]

I know, this is a very old topic....

but now I want to improve my WW1 WoG models too

2 small qs I have
1.) where to get the magnet and matching metal balls?
2.) and for spare....where to get the acryl (/) pegs? (for fighters and bombers)

Thank you

Best from Singapore
Lutz

[Flying Helmut]

Magnets and ball bearings from ebay - make sure you buy "recessed" magnets, with a shallow "bowl" to accept the ball.

Multiple different sizes of both available all over the world; just search "Magnets" and "Ball bearings".


As for Flight pegs, "bomber" pegs are still in stock in some outlets, but the "Fighter" pegs have all but disappeared.