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    I can't see any harm in leaving them attached. The only thing that will happen over time is that the bearings will become magnetized a little.

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    What size are the bearings in the gimbal mount. I'm wondering if they will mount easily on the large hole on these. http://www.litko.net/products/Litko-...ompatible.html

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    Chris A.
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  3. #53

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    3/16 of an inch. The bearings sit slightly down in the official peg opening, so they should work in the larger holes on them since they are designed to take the same peg on the plane.

  4. #54

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    When will the GM be back in stock?
    I'd like to try them
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    Is there something on this forum to show people who use the GM as how the planes should be placed after the different type of cards?
    e.g. side slip, vs the fast 45 degree turn, vs 90 degree turn.

    I can see the people that play by milimeters arguing over what is a hit, and what isn't, due to the plane being place on the GM. I think you all know what i mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petho22 View Post
    Is there something on this forum to show people who use the GM as how the planes should be placed after the different type of cards?
    e.g. side slip, vs the fast 45 degree turn, vs 90 degree turn.

    I can see the people that play by milimeters arguing over what is a hit, and what isn't, due to the plane being place on the GM. I think you all know what i mean.
    As the actual measuring is from peg to peg, or as some prefer base to base. the position of the model plane should not make any difference Chad.
    In fact if you measure from plane to plane you are distorting the range, because the plane models are out of scale with the cards. This is even more obvious when you use the giant bombers.
    Hope this helps.
    Rob.
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    The GM are only for "visual appeal" and should not effect game play at all. I guess if you are playing with the optional rule shoot at the real thing, they could effect things. At that point I'd say allow a 5mm buffer zone. So, as long as you are within 5mm of reaching the plane, you hit.

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    Ditto Oberst Hajj's and FO Kyte's comments. Our playing group has tried the variation of "shooting at the real thing" but we gave it up within 3 or 4 Turns for exactly the reasons that you mention.

    We are very content with using using the shooter's-post-to-target's-base approach (as per the official rules"), and using the flexibilty of the gimbal mount to merely add "colour". Some of our playing group (10 players) always position their AC in the attitude that they think looks "neatest", while others aren't that fussy. BUT, whenever we take photos, there is usually a flurry of activity to position the AC in the "correct" attitudes for the manoeuvre they just made.

    All 110 AC in our playing group use Gimbal Mounts. Ain't this a great game/hobby/passtime/way-to-meet-people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Ditto Oberst Hajj's and FO Kyte's comments. Our playing group has tried the variation of "shooting at the real thing" but we gave it up within 3 or 4 Turns for exactly the reasons that you mention.

    We are very content with using using the shooter's-post-to-target's-base approach (as per the official rules"), and using the flexibilty of the gimbal mount to merely add "colour". Some of our playing group (10 players) always position their AC in the attitude that they think looks "neatest", while others aren't that fussy. BUT, whenever we take photos, there is usually a flurry of activity to position the AC in the "correct" attitudes for the manoeuvre they just made.

    All 110 AC in our playing group use Gimbal Mounts. Ain't this a great game/hobby/passtime/way-to-meet-people.
    Same Here.

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    Ok. Thanks all.
    Seems i may have been mixing up the card and mini's rules. We have been playing from the mount to any part of the target mini. Will correct this.

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    Can I just glue the ball to the plane? I'd rather not do all the cutting.

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    You can. I drill the small notch in the plane so the bearing has more of a "seat" and stays attached better... those magnets are strong!

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    I have tried a variety of methods of attachment over a period of time, and agree with the Herr Oberst that the best way is his method.

    I have even ground up a small drill to a semi-circular profile to give a hemispherical indent.
    Rob.

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    Or you could do what I do - Use one of these (it's a Dremel bit set into a handle).
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    I do go on about this, don't I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niclas View Post
    Or you could do what I do - Use one of these (it's a Dremel bit set into a handle).
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    I do go on about this, don't I?

    /Niclas
    Do You Niclas? I hadn't noticed.
    Rob.

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    I did this with my gimballmounts:


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    Because i removed the middel part of the altitude-peg it remains roughly the same heights as previously. The aircraft model itself remains unmodified.

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    My first attempts at gimbal mounts install.

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    I did what Kaiser did as well. I used superglue and roughed up the magnets after the first ones came off too easily. If any more break off I'm going to try Niclas's method to make a bit of a rounded divot in the peg to create more surface area for the glue. I'm very happy with it and even the heavier planes bank well.

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    I use the ring on the plane and the ball on the peg. It is a more sturdy way to keep the magnets attached where you want them.



    For nose heavy airplanes such as LFG Roland C.II I use an additional tiny magnet on the ball, it keeps the airplane's nose in a correct position.

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    I've just got some of these and come up with a new method. As most of my non official planes are mounted on a 3.2mm neodymium magnet and I've pegs with magnets in the top, I've superglued a 3.2mm x 1mm magnet to the ball.



    I've put the Gimble on a 6 x2mm magnet so it sits on a magnetic peg. It works a treat.



    I've got some Litko converter pegs with magnets in that can be used for official planes. I haven't had to modify any planes. I'm delighted with my New gimbles.

    Ian

  23. #73

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    Just ordered my first lot of gimball mounts. Can't wait for them to arrive, modify the pegs and get flying.

  24. #74

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    You will experience the difference, Neil. Have fun mounting them and show us the results

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    Will these gimbal mounts work on the large bombers?

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    No, they won't. Bombers are way too heavy as models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbomber View Post
    No, they won't. Bombers are way too heavy as models.
    Any alternatives other than the gimbal mount?

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    Well, frankly I do not see a reason to gimbal-mount the giants. They fly straight, deliver an egg and turn back home. However, if there is a need for this PM Herr Oberst and he will surely come to the rescue

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    I've not found a real solution for the bombers. It's not really there weight that is the issue, it's how big they are. Those long wings and tails just put to much leverage on the pivot point. I don't think using a bigger magnet and ball would help any other.

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    I have glued the gimbles together at a sight angle to a peg, so that I can photograph bombers banking.
    you only lose one peg if you cut it in half and glue half to each gimble. With the new large pegs due out soon, it won't matter if you lose a peg or two.
    Rob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Kyte View Post
    With the new large pegs due out soon, it won't matter if you lose a peg or two.
    Rob.
    Oh, had not seen that yet. Good to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    Oh, had not seen that yet. Good to know!
    Glad to be of service Herr Oberst.
    I assume that you will be marketing them soon!
    Rob.

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    Just waiting to hear what the official retail price will be

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    What the heck, I've got to have some. Just used the last of my spare ones up on a certain other job.
    Rob. Bye the way, what size sweat shirt do you take.
    Rob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    I've not found a real solution for the bombers. It's not really there weight that is the issue, it's how big they are. Those long wings and tails just put to much leverage on the pivot point. I don't think using a bigger magnet and ball would help any other.
    I`ve had some success with some of my heavier models by creating a sleeve out of a piece of drinking straw and placing it over the mounts.
    (I`ve used Kaiser`s method to mount the gimbles.)

    This gives the plane a bit more support and the sleeve can be slid down the mount slightly if you want to put the model into a banking attitude without the weight of it dragging the bearing off the magnet.
    Not sure how this method or the bearings themselves will work with the larger bomber/balloon pegs so some more experimentation is probably in order once Ares releases the larger peg sets!
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    Hello all,

    Today I got to stay home from work as we had a major snow storm and I couldn't get out of my drive way......AWESOME!!! I had just received my Gimbal mounts earlier this week and decided this a perfect time to install them. I decided to use the cut the peg off the plane method as this seemed the easiest method. Everything was going smoothly until I attempted to mount the bearing on the Albatros D.Va. As per Oberst Hajj post above, which I found out the hard way, The D.Va's are a metal body. This completely stunned me, but I was determined and managed to get the bearing mounted. Initiallly I tried using Testors brand Super Glue, but found it way too slow to dry and was actually melting the paint on my Fokker. I then went to a 2 part Epoxy which worked great and dried clear. These Gimbals are awesome and add a great extra to the visual elements of the game. I'm going to need to order more as my personal Aerodrome is growing rapidly. My question is, does anyone know why the D.Va's were done with a metal body and the others not?

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    All the planes have metal fuselages, however, all but the Albatros D.Va (and Roland) have a plastic bottom. I think this is because the other planes have a square shape to the fuselages on the sides and bottom. The Albatros has a round fuselage. By the time they got around to the Albatros D.III, they had figured out away to do it in plastic. It's kind of a pain

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    Will have to try those some day

    After I buy all the plane I want in the numbers I want :P

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    Any idea when these will be back in stock for those of us a bit late to the party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinary Dan View Post
    Any idea when these will be back in stock for those of us a bit late to the party?
    Welcome Daniel. Stop by the Report for Duty forum and introduce yourself. Folks will be glad to meet you.
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    These should be restocked towards the end of the week next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    These should be restocked towards the end of the week next week.
    Keith,

    How about the "Wings of Glory Altitude Pegs" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calm View Post
    Keith,

    How about the "Wings of Glory Altitude Pegs" ?
    Never mind, I managed to grab them on eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberst Hajj View Post
    These should be restocked towards the end of the week next week.
    Good news. I have recently seen these used to good effect in AARs.

    Any chance of stocking AA bursts - the ones on stands?

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    Did the gimbal mounts get restocked and sell out in two months? I need to pay closer attention and get my order in. Any idea when you will get more?

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    Yep, the go fast some times! I'll have more in next week.

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    Looks as if I just about got in there in time with my order then Keith, and I already know that I will be needing more for the new planes.
    The He and stand arrived today thanks.
    Rob.

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    I've started mounting the two sets of Gimbal Mounts I ordered on my Dystopian Wars planes and will be ordering more once I place my WWI order with Shapeways. May even pre-order that SoG water mat and a Coastal Mat.

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    Can you give a restock date? Missed out on the last pack
    TIA

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    I'am interested in gimbal mounts, but don't want to damage my planes. I've found a webshop (http://de.pandahall.com/p-16654-spac...rung-2-mm.html) where 5mm iron balls with a 2mm drilling are offered. Has anyone experience with this variant? 10.000 pc. for about 12 € seems ok.

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