The price of nostalgia

[Guntruck]

I bought this when it came out in the mid-80s, cost around a fiver:



I bought the revamped version yesterday, cost £40



Still a good game though

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

That takes me back a bit, the original one. Wished I'd kept mine. Any, or many, differences between the two?

[David Manley]

It seems to be getting a bit of a slating on BGG.

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1156...and-last-games

[Guntruck]

It seems to be getting a bit of a slating on BGG.

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1156...and-last-games

We will have to see. If that's all he can find wrong with it, it isn't a total loss

[Guntruck]

Any, or many, differences between the two?

Yeah, about 35 squids

[Marechallannes]

I had an eye on this product.

Never played it before.

I sacrified the fictional budget of this game for an additional SoG gaming mat.

[csadn]

Still have my original. Damage system's clunky (die roll *plus* chit draw), but it makes for a nice response to the folks who insist on cluttering up _WoG_'s rulebook with inordinate detail -- "well, there's always _Blue Max_". :)

[Flying Officer Kyte]

Still have my original. Damage system's clunky (die roll *plus* chit draw), but it makes for a nice response to the folks who insist on cluttering up _WoG_'s rulebook with inordinate detail -- "well, there's always _Blue Max_".

I agree Chris.
I don't mind the discussions so much until they start going in ever decreasing circles,
but then we can, as you quite rightly say, direct them to "Blue Max."
Rob.

[Archidamus]

Must admit never played this - was more a Richthoven's War man. Be interested in knowing what you think after a few games though - my wallet, not so much

[csadn]

Must admit never played this - was more a Richthoven's War man. Be interested in knowing what you think after a few games though - my wallet, not so much :D

I can give you a short form now:

Movement is "plot from a list of available moves, then move simultaneously", in the vein of _Crimson Skies_ or _Check Your 6!_. It uses a hex map, so there's less faffing about with "are they overlapping or not?". _RW_ allows more variety in movement, but has that annoying "I go, you go" setup.

Combat is, as noted, a bit clunky -- one rolls d6s to see if one hits, rolls again to see how many and what type of chits to draw, *then* draws chits to see what damage was actually taken. (It's a Game Designers' Workshop game -- no more need be said. :) )

Damage is the usual "hit points, plus chances for criticals"; _BM_ does make a distinction between different parts of the unit, tho' (Wing DP and Tail DP are separate, for ex.), so it's a bit more detailed than the others.

It's more detailed than _WoG_, and a bit more than _RW_, but does not achieve the anal-retentiveness of _Aces High_ by 3W. If it weren't for the clunky combat mechanism, I'd risk recommending it over _WoG_ here.

[David Manley]

I can give you a short form now:

Movement is "plot from a list of available moves, then move simultaneously",

Sounds just like WoG, just without cards

[BobP]

I have a few GDW games but never this one. Mine were AH games. Air Force and Richton's War. Both were great games. I f I remember right System 7 (Napoleonic) was a GDW game and had a great time playing it.

[Jager]

The game company doesn't always dictate the quality of a game. SPI had some of the greatest, and some real stinkers.
Overall, I liked the GDW games I played.
Karl

[Baldrick62]

GT,
If the nostalgia for 'Blue Max' remains strong, try it's successor 'Canvas Eagles', available for download free on the web. The counters and other gaming aids for 'Blue Max' come in handy for it. 'Canvas Eagles' gets around the IGYG issue by simultaneous plotted movement.
BdeB

[Guntruck]

GT,
If the nostalgia for 'Blue Max' remains strong, try it's successor 'Canvas Eagles', available for download free on the web. The counters and other gaming aids for 'Blue Max' come in handy for it. 'Canvas Eagles' gets around the IGYG issue by simultaneous plotted movement.
BdeB

Yes Balders, got that as well. In fact I'm a sucker for any games with a WW1 plane involved

[Blackronin]

I've got the original and I play it online and still love it.

[csadn]

Sounds just like WoG, just without cards

Except it's completely different -- hexes rather than gridless; lot more options for moving, including moving at different speeds; and so on. Saying "it's just like _WoG_" is like saying an elephant and a cat are just like each other on the basis of them both being four-legged mammals....

[David Manley]

The execution is obviously different, the basic premise is the same - a set of manoeuvres for a type of aircraft from which you can choose that defines your end point and attitude. In one case executed using cards, in the other by defining the end hex. In the same way that, say, X Wing and WGF are "the same but not the same" (which was what I was hinting at, and the purpose of the )

[Baxter]

You can always try this version. It costs nothing to play and I have about 5 games going at the moment.

http://www.youplay.it

[BobP]

You brought up nostalgia. I was in my shed today getting ready to cut the grass and saw this just sitting there. It has been there for a number of years but never paid attention to it until now. Close to a 50 year old game. Hope some remember it. I can't remember the last time I played this game.

[ptownhiker]

You brought up nostalgia. I was in my shed today getting ready to cut the grass and saw this just sitting there. It has been there for a number of years but never paid attention to it until now. Close to a 50 year old game. Hope some remember it. I can't remember the last time I played this game.

My brother and I still play (a much newer) copy of Stratego. I love playing it. It has simple mechanics and an element of suspense.

[Lt. S.Kafloc]

Nice link Zoe. Some class games there. Especially 'Wooden Ships, Iron Men'.

Neil

You can always try this version. It costs nothing to play and I have about 5 games going at the moment.

http://www.youplay.it

[Guntruck]

Nice link Zoe. Some class games there. Especially 'Wooden Ships, Iron Men'.

Neil

Not all Aussies are called Zoe, Neil

(some of them are called Sheila)

[Biggles downunder]

Not all Aussies are called Zoe, Neil

(some of them are called Sheila)

...and some of them are called 'Garry'

[Flying Officer Kyte]

What about Bruce?
Kyte.

[Guntruck]

What about Bruce?
Kyte.

As in: "Nice to see you, to see you - nice"?

(Probably anyone outside the U.K. hasn't a scooby what that was about )

[Flying Officer Kyte]

As in: "Nice to see you, to see you - nice"?

(Probably anyone outside the U.K. hasn't a scooby what that was about )

More as in Monty Python.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA

Rob.