2nd Generation WW1 Solo Decks

**Teaticket** · 02-06-2014 20:31

Originally Posted by fast.git

Do you have the G*-H-K decks uploaded yet...?

I should get these to Joaquim either Friday night or Monday, along with P. Posted are A, G, J*, S, T & V,... B, J, R,....C, D & U,. I just sent him D+,... E & I,... E+, and F & N, so these should be up by next week..

**Blackronin** · 02-07-2014 02:12

New decks uploaded:

Solo chart for decks E I
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1786

Solo chart for deck E+
This is a deck with a 90º turn left and right to be used by those that feel that the Nieuport 11 Bebe has a slightly better turning ability than the Albatros DII and DIII.
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1787

Solo chart for deck D+
This is a deck with two 90º turns left to be used by those that feel that the Fokker Dr.I has a better left turning ability than the Sopwith Camel.
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1788

Soon the other 5 charts. Once again, thanks Peter.

**calm** · 02-07-2014 04:03

Thanks to both of you

Seems I will have to get some solo WW1 missions

**MoonSylver** · 02-07-2014 11:40

Originally Posted by calm

Thanks to both of you

Seems I will have to get some solo WW1 missions

There's plenty of them to choose from, just in the OtT forums(s), not even counting others scattered about the campaigns & missions folders in downloads, You won't regret it.

**Blackronin** · 02-09-2014 02:56

Solo chart for the Decks F and N.
We're almost there.
We only need to make 4 more.

Solo chart for the Decks F N
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1789

**Dowters** · 02-09-2014 06:18

These look Exellent. Please forgive the noob question but how much modding would be reqd for WW2?

**Blackronin** · 02-09-2014 06:26

Originally Posted by Dowters

These look Exellent. Please forgive the noob question but how much modding would be reqd for WW2?

I'm already making them for WW2, Nigel. See here:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/sho...Charts-for-WW2

As soon as I can, I'll make all other decks. Enjoy.

**Dowters** · 02-09-2014 06:40

Quite brilliant. I'll be giving them a go. Thanks for all the hard work.
Regards
Nigel

**Blackronin** · 02-09-2014 07:05

Thanks for the REP and for all, Nigel!

**Blackronin** · 02-11-2014 15:42

Chart for Card Deck P is done. As usually Peter as done an amazing job. Thanks!

Solo chart for the Deck P
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1794

**Teaticket** · 02-11-2014 17:19

Joaquim, did I already send you the G*, H K deck chart? I thought so but if not its ready.

**Blackronin** · 02-12-2014 02:26

Nope! Not yet, Peter.

**Teaticket** · 02-12-2014 05:14

Originally Posted by Blackronin

Nope! Not yet, Peter.

On the way.

**skyking20** · 02-12-2014 08:37

Just so I am sure I understand, How does the left hand column work?

**brucewallace** · 02-12-2014 18:56

A quick question of interpretation of the symbols. For example, take the new F & N chart. If you will look at the first line under die roll 1, second card has the plane entering on the left side at the bottom of the card, and ending up exiting the right hand side of the card. Is this supposed to represent a climb? And first line, first card under 5 a dive? Also, does MA mean maximum altitude? If so, on line 8/9 > 1 ruler MA under column 5, card 2, how can the plane climb if it is already at maximum altitude? Or did I get it all wrong? This looks llike a fascinating way to play the game, and given tomorrow's snow storm, I may have time to give it a try. Thanks for all the effort you put into this.

**Teaticket** · 02-12-2014 19:39

Originally Posted by brucewallace

A quick question of interpretation of the symbols. For example, take the new F & N chart. If you will look at the first line under die roll 1, second card has the plane entering on the left side at the bottom of the card, and ending up exiting the right hand side of the card. Is this supposed to represent a climb? And first line, first card under 5 a dive? Also, does MA mean maximum altitude? If so, on line 8/9 > 1 ruler MA under column 5, card 2, how can the plane climb if it is already at maximum altitude? Or did I get it all wrong? This looks llike a fascinating way to play the game, and given tomorrow's snow storm, I may have time to give it a try. Thanks for all the effort you put into this.

The cards showing entry from the side is just a wide side slip. When you play the card do it as normal. This card is placed sideways giving the plane a lot of slip. When you look at the actual cards in an F or N deck it will be clear. MA means Moving Away, so when looking at your plane from the AP plane, the atitude comes into play as well as direction on the template. There is no card for climbing or diving. If you want to ad that in you will have to do so as you see fit with the stall (short straight) or normal straight as climbs and dives.

Each depiction on the chart represents a card in the appropriate deck. F & N decks have 2 types of side slips, the normal/average one and an extreme one shown with the card sideways. Normal turns are shown with the curved arrow pointing to the upper corners. A sharp turn has a 90 degree turn. Immelmann has a line with the arrow pointing back on the line (Y) A stall is a very short arrow.
Remember, you have to pipck your plane's cards first, then roll for the AP planes.

You should look at the solo rules as you will need the template for direction. One is available in the solo files and one is available through the Areodrome Store.

Hope this helps. It is a great way to play. I just played with a friend against the APs. We flew 2 planes apiece against 6 of the enemy. We lost one plane and downed two Germans but had to fly off as we were too badly damaged to continue. It was a lot of fun and a tough fight!

**Teaticket** · 02-12-2014 19:47

Originally Posted by skyking20

Just so I am sure I understand, How does the left hand column work?

The left column works as follows, you place the template on the AP plane, take the direction to the most threatening player operated plane, find distance and either toward or away from the AP. Roll a d6 and the result will give you the 3 cards that the AP plane will fly. If the previous turn's last card was an Immelmann, place a straight as the first card in their next 3. Get rid of the last card rolled, use the first 2 preceded with a the straight.
Sometimes you have to fudge it to make sense. Like with the Immelmann, if a turn ends with a stall, don't start the next turn with one. Replace it with a straight or roll again.

Anyone with more experience than I have with solo please add in what you can.

**brucewallace** · 02-13-2014 03:55

Thanks, Peter, that makes it all clear. I've already gotten the template from the shop, and applied the paint last night.

**Blackronin** · 02-13-2014 03:56

Thanks for being faster than me replying, Peter.

**Teaticket** · 02-13-2014 05:09

No problem. Too bad I didn't have the first MA on the chart as Moving Away, but there wasn't enough room. I could go and do that on the next time it appears on the > 1 ruler 2/3 row? Then you would have to post all the charts again.

**Blackronin** · 02-13-2014 05:16

If that betters the experience of everyone I don't mind re-uploading the charts.

**Blackronin** · 02-13-2014 05:32

Chart for Card Decks G* H K is done. Thanks again, Peter!

Solo chart for the Decks G* H K
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1797

**Teaticket** · 02-13-2014 06:44

Originally Posted by Blackronin

If that betters the experience of everyone I don't mind re-uploading the charts.

Ok, I'll do it. It will hopefully make it clear what MA means right off. You'll have incoming tonight!

**Teaticket** · 02-13-2014 08:40

Originally Posted by Blackronin

If that betters the experience of everyone I don't mind re-uploading the charts.

If there is anything else you would like changed/modified let me know.

**Blackronin** · 02-13-2014 15:01

Thanks Peter.
Charts edited by Peter to add indications in order to make the charts more clear.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 02-13-2014 23:38

Can you please let me know Joaquim when we reach a sort of final definitive set of charts, because for those I am going to do in colour and seal into plastic.
Thanks.
Rob.

**Blackronin** · 02-14-2014 00:19

I will, Rob.
We're very close to the final version.

**Teaticket** · 02-14-2014 06:01

I made the charts in black and white for easier reading. Would we prefer colors? Green background like the originals?

**brucewallace** · 02-14-2014 08:14

Black and White is fine with me.

**Blackronin** · 02-14-2014 09:13

Thanks Peter.
I also prefer black and white.
The only thing that might help in a light grey every odd line to be easier to read the chart.
But that may be the last change when everything is tested. We can have one all black and white and one with the grey shading if you will.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 02-14-2014 11:46

Originally Posted by Teaticket

I made the charts in black and white for easier reading. Would we prefer colors? Green background like the originals?

The colour helps me better with my poor eyesight Peter.

Black and white is not too good for me.
Rob.

**Blackronin** · 02-18-2014 14:43

Finally I finished the four remaining decks.
Here they are. Do your thing, Peter!

Solo chart for the Deck Q

Solo chart for the Deck O

Solo chart for the Deck M

Solo chart for the Deck L

**Blackronin** · 02-20-2014 12:09

Here's the first of the last four decks "cleaned" by Peter:

Solo chart for the Deck Q
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1817

**Blackronin** · 02-21-2014 13:47

Here's the second of the last four decks "cleaned" by Peter:

Solo chart for the Deck L
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1818

**Blackronin** · 02-22-2014 10:02

Here's the two last decks "cleaned" by Peter. This work is done. Thanks for your help, Peter.

Solo chart for the Deck M
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1820

Solo chart for the Deck O
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1821

**MoonSylver** · 02-22-2014 22:07

Here are the links to all the charts collected in one spot:

Solo chart for decks A G J* S T
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1779

Solo chart for decks B J R
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1780

Solo chart for decks C
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1781

Solo chart for decks D U
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1782

Solo chart for decks E I
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1786

Solo chart for deck E+
This is a deck with a 90º turn left and right to be used by those that feel that the Nieuport 11 Bebe has a slightly better turning ability than the Albatros DII and DIII.
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1787

Solo chart for deck D+
This is a deck with two 90º turns left to be used by those that feel that the Fokker Dr.I has a better left turning ability than the Sopwith Camel.
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1788

Solo chart for the Decks F N
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1789

Solo chart for the Deck P
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1794

Solo chart for the Decks G* H K
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1797

Solo chart for the Deck Q
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1817

Solo chart for the Deck L
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1818

Solo chart for the Deck M
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1820

Solo chart for the Deck O
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/dow...o=file&id=1821

Makes them easier for me to find when I go looking for them again.

Big thanks to Joaquim & Peter for all their hard work, & to Richard Bradley once again for the original Solo Rules.

**Blackronin** · 02-23-2014 02:28

Thanks, Rob.
I hope you enjoy them.
Now we'll start WW2.

**Captain Chum** · 02-23-2014 07:49

Got them all....Thanks gentlemen!

**Teaticket** · 01-08-2015 13:17

I have uploaded a new set of charts that go in tandem with the 2nd generation ones. They are in the queue. These give you options for when planes are overlapping bases or close and parallel. Instructions on how to use when overlapping are on each page. I printed the matching set of charts on the back of each of the 2nd generation pages.

I know a new dice less system is almost done...I've been meaning to upload these for some months but never got to it till last night.

**Blackronin** · 01-08-2015 13:24

Originally Posted by Teaticket

I have uploaded a new set of charts that go in tandem with the 2nd generation ones. They are in the queue. These give you options for when planes are overlapping bases or close and parallel. Instructions on how to use when overlapping are on each page. I printed the matching set of charts on the back of each of the 2nd generation pages.

I know a new dice less system is almost done...I've been meaning to upload these for some months but never got to it till last night.

Thanks Peter!

**fast.git** · 01-08-2015 13:51

Cool. Options are good. I look forward to taking a look at this.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 01-08-2015 14:39

I agree. Nothing like this is ever a waste of time. some people are bound to like it and others may find it an inspiration to do similar work themselves, or some other innovation of their own.
Rob.

**OldGuy59** · 01-08-2015 15:52

How does this relate to the new Universal Solo Deck I'm working on? Is the new deck a replacement?

**grumpybear** · 01-08-2015 16:19

Originally Posted by calm

Will be helpful when I start playing WW1 solo

Looking forward to trying solo

**Blackronin** · 01-08-2015 16:37

Originally Posted by OldGuy59

How does this relate to the new Universal Solo Deck I'm working on? Is the new deck a replacement?

It doesn't Mike.
These excellent charts that Peter upgraded are an addition to my Advanced Solo Charts.

**Teaticket** · 01-08-2015 17:50

Originally Posted by OldGuy59

How does this relate to the new Universal Solo Deck I'm working on? Is the new deck a replacement?

Mike, sorry not to have made this clear that it is not connected in any way to what you are working on. I hoped this being the 2nd Generation thread it wouldn't be confused with the new system.

**Teaticket** · 01-08-2015 17:51

Ok, just checked, they are up. Look in Files - scenarios - solo rules.

**Flying Officer Kyte** · 01-09-2015 00:05

Originally Posted by Teaticket

Ok, just checked, they are up. Look in Files - scenarios - solo rules.

And very good they look Pete.
Thanks for taking the time to work these out.
Rob.

**Teaticket** · 01-09-2015 05:31

Maybe it was just me but I seemed to get a lot of situations of overlapping or parallel planes where I wasn't sure which set to roll on. This had me looking for the best set or randomly rolling. I thought something like this would help save time. Some of the larger games I have solo'd with 10-12 planes take long enough. I find the games flow a little better with the less time used fiddling with looking for the best chart.

**flash** · 01-09-2015 07:21

Originally Posted by Teaticket

Maybe it was just me but I seemed to get a lot of situations of overlapping or parallel planes where I wasn't sure which set to roll on....

I found that playing the predictive game ie playing where the target plane looked like it was going to be relative to the AI in the next move rather than the point it was just leaving, negated this issue; then it was either closing or it wasn't !