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    I thought you made some Mk1's for me a few years ago . . . can't seem to find anything . . . .


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    [Edit: Revised Dorsal Arc]
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    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1801 View Post
    I thought you made some Mk1's for me a few years ago . . . can't seem to find anything . . . .

    Posted my first work here: Blenheim Mk I card
    Mike
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    Depending on the version you want, there is that weird ventral turret under the nose...

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    [Edit: Revised Dorsal Arc]
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 03-28-2017 at 09:34.
    Mike
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    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    You're at it again Mike, I cannot thank you enough for your continued excellence.

    Lest we forget

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    Hi Mike, there is an amendment pending on the WGS unofficial aircraft section regarding the Blenheim firing arcs. The Bristol B1 turret could not traverse through 360 degrees. The turret could only traverse 60 degrees either side to the rear of the fuselage centre-line, then the gun itself could traverse another 40 degrees. So you have 100 degrees either side. The Bristol turret also allowed the gun to move side to side to engage targets that would normally be obstructed by the tail. The result is a much reduced tail shadow. I will post some diagrams and source documentation later today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl_Brisgamer View Post
    Hi Mike, there is an amendment pending on the WGS unofficial aircraft section regarding the Blenheim firing arcs. The Bristol B1 turret could not traverse through 360 degrees. The turret could only traverse 60 degrees either side to the rear of the fuselage centre-line, then the gun itself could traverse another 40 degrees. So you have 100 degrees either side. The Bristol turret also allowed the gun to move side to side to engage targets that would normally be obstructed by the tail. The result is a much reduced tail shadow. I will post some diagrams and source documentation later today.
    Now you tell me.

    Pilotfriend.com - Bristol Blenheim / Bolingbroke
    Amongst other armament that might be found on various planes:

    1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Browning fixed forward-firing machine-gun in the port wing.

    1 x 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Lewis or Vickers "K" trainable machine-gun in a semi-retractable hydraulically operated Bristol B.Mk III dorsal turret, or
    2 x 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Vickers "K" trainable machine-guns in a power-operated Bristol B.Mk IIIA dorsal turret, or
    2 x 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Browning trainable machine-guns in a power-operated Bristol B.Mk IV dorsal turret.

    1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Browning trainable rearward-firing machine-gun in a remotely controlled Frazer-Nash FN.54 chin turret, or
    2 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Browning trainable rearward-firing machine-guns in a remotely controlled Frazer-Nash FN.54A chin turret. The turret could rotate 20 degrees to either side with a depression of 17 degrees.

    1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Vickers "K" forward-firing machine-gun in a gimbal nose gun mount (optional field modification).

    1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Vickers "K" machine-gun in a rear firing engine nacelle mount (optional field modification).

    1 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Vickers "K" machine-gun in a rear firing under tail mount (optional field modification).

    Note that on one site, the rear-facing chin turret was to be used to shoot planes in the tail blind spot, not lower aircraft? It had 15 degrees left/right arc, and 25 degrees depression, but could shoot directly aft (No elevation). So, same altitude (red), and not necessarily yellow indicating only lower targets?

    Well, what does the USC say about multi-crewed aircraft, that are not bombers? I have been putting planes on Heavy Fighter cards, but not doing Crew Management cards, as Ares doesn't do them. Now, IIRC, these are "two seater" for the most part. However, for planes like this, or the Ju-88, there is actually a crew, with defined positions, and even multiple positions/guns.

    Any discussion/decision on that?
    Last edited by OldGuy59; 03-27-2017 at 16:56.
    Mike
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    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl_Brisgamer View Post
    Hi Mike, there is an amendment pending on the WGS unofficial aircraft section regarding the Blenheim firing arcs. The Bristol B1 turret could not traverse through 360 degrees. The turret could only traverse 60 degrees either side to the rear of the fuselage centre-line, then the gun itself could traverse another 40 degrees. So you have 100 degrees either side. The Bristol turret also allowed the gun to move side to side to engage targets that would normally be obstructed by the tail. The result is a much reduced tail shadow. I will post some diagrams and source documentation later today.
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    This information is sourced from "British Aircraft Armament Vol.1: RAF Gun Turrets", by R Wallace Clarke, published in 1993 by Patrick Stephens Ltd. A copy of this excellent reference book can be downloaded from www.scribd.com here https://www.scribd.com/search?page=1...tops&query=RAF aircraft armament
    Last edited by Carl_Brisgamer; 03-28-2017 at 12:03.

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    Plane Cards revised above.
    Mike
    "Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGuy59 View Post
    Plane Cards revised above.
    A thing of beauty Mike

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    "Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59

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    Bkenheim Mk.IV from the Action 200 1:200th Scale range of metal airplanes from Skytrex being escorted by a Nexus Hurricane.

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    It doesn't look like anyone did a management card for this one. Here are a few questions;

    Did this plane have a copilot?

    I assume the pilot controls the forward firing MG.

    With only one MG in the port wing, outboard of the engine, would it make sense to shift the forward firing arc to the left some?

    Thanks!

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    Lol WW1 is so much less complicated.

    Never Knowingly Undergunned !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dak21 View Post

    With only one MG in the port wing, outboard of the engine, would it make sense to shift the forward firing arc to the left some?
    No - the aircraft model is hugely oversized in game terms - keeping to scale, the plane is actually around the same size as the peg holding it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dak21 View Post
    It doesn't look like anyone did a management card for this one. Here are a few questions;

    Did this plane have a copilot?

    I assume the pilot controls the forward firing MG.

    With only one MG in the port wing, outboard of the engine, would it make sense to shift the forward firing arc to the left some?

    Thanks!
    If you treat the Blenheim as you would an Me110 or Beaufighter, it does not need a management card. Re the firing arc, see what Tim said.
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    A brand new flight of Bristol Blenheim MkIVs ready for action!

    They look strangely like the cards that Mike published above. Not sure how that happened! ��

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    Looking good Dave
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    Charming rendition Dave.
    Is that Spode I see in the background, or could it possibly be Dresden?

    Rob.
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    Very nice Dave. Wish I could have seen them Tuesday.

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    There were only three members in a Blenheim's crew, Dave. The pilot controlled the forward firing gun, the navigator/ bomb-aimer operated the under nose rearward firing blister and the wireless operator/ air gunner manned the dorsal turret.

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    They look tidy Dave

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Excellent Blenheims!

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    Thanks guys! I’m looking forward to getting them into action!

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    I was thinking of doing up a Management card for this plane, but unless someone is desperate, I'll wait.

    There will be official cards for this plane sometime this year. It would be nice if they used our ideas, but so far, it appears that Ares does something different from anything posted on our site. I'm thinking it is to avoid having to credit anyone here for their stuff.

    Hmmm... Is that a bit cynical?
    Mike
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    I hadn’t heard that they were doing a Bristol Blenheim. I didn’t see anything on the Ares site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dak21 View Post
    I hadn’t heard that they were doing a Bristol Blenheim. I didn’t see anything on the Ares site.
    And I thought I lived under a rock.

    ARES teased us quite a while back. It originally looked like they were to be released with the Do17s and Ju88s but now we have to wait for them.

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    Those Blenheims are brilliant, really well done.

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    Tobruk battle - Blenheim support of the 8thArmy "Desert Rats"

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    Looks good! What model brand model is that?

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    Hi Dak21

    The Blenheim is a Zvezda 1/200 model flying over the Tobruk Memoir'44 map


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    Nice Blenheim with DAK camo.

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    Blenheim loverly Chee.
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    Here is a Zvezda I finally got to. Miscmini decals for 105 Squadron. Vallejo paints from their Air BoB set. 14mm props from Keith.

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    Your usual immaculate work Peter.
    Superb.
    Rob.
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    Very crisp Peter! The colors look very rich. Probably five coats of Vallejo air there.

    I’ve got some AIM Blenheim MK I’s on deck too. Maybe I’ll build one of those Zveda models. Looks like very nice detail.

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    Thanks Rob.

    Dave, surprisingly with a black prime only 1 coat on the green and most of the tan. The sky underneath was a double coat. After working on so many Shapeways it was strange to paint such a smooth surface.

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    I like the look of that Peter.
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    Very nice Pete. I have some of those but went with AIM ones. Always an insperation by your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobP View Post
    Very nice Pete. I have some of those but went with AIM ones. Always an insperation by your work.
    Thanks guys.

    I would have gone AIM but as I was getting some Ju-52s that AIM doesn't make. I will get some Mk Is from AIM next order.

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    Beautiful Blenheim Peter! Appreciate the info/how to's also.

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    Lovely Blenheim, Peter!

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    Very nice (Rep Gun Empty..)

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