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    Default Fast Bombers - use the Heavy Fighter base?

    I have been fielding unofficial aircraft for WGS from the very first game I played three years ago, and recently I have been considering what base would be most suitable for the 'fast' bombers that saw service throughout WW2. A number of these aircraft were also used as heavy fighters and are often described as manouverable, 'fully-aerobatic' or agile, as opposed to their generally larger lumbering cousins.

    Given these circumstances I have identified the following 'bombers' could use the 'heavy fighter' base, 86mm x 67mm:

    Bloch MB.174/175
    Breguet 693
    Bristol Blenheim Mk.I
    Bristol Blenheim Mk.IV
    De Havilland Mosquito
    Dornier Do 17
    Douglas A-20 (Boston)
    Glenn Martin 167F (Maryland)
    Junkers Ju 88A
    Kawasaki Ki-48 'Lily'
    Lockheed Hudson Mk.I(IV)
    Martin B-26 Marauder
    Petlyakov Pe-2

    This is by no means a definitive list. I would invite other members to nominate further aircraft types to add to this list.

    Cheers,

    Carl.
    Last edited by Carl_Brisgamer; 02-13-2013 at 19:04.

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    A good dividing line would be - was this aircraft ever used as a fighter?

    I'd put the B-26 out, I don't see it as any better than a B-25 when it comes to maneuverability. Worse, if anything.
    DO-17 is iffy, though the larger 215 was a bit more nippy, it was still classed as a heavy bomber airframe, the nightfighters only being suitable for use vs 4-engined bombers.

    Ju-88 was fast, but not that maneuverable, not in the same league as a 110 or Mossie.

    Pe2 was originally a heavy fighter - definitely. Same with the Blenheims and Mossie. The A-20 had a number of successful nightfighter versions. The 167F was used as a fighter - but only against Ju52s and the like. Iffy. Again I don't see the Hudson or Ki-48 being any better than a B-25 in air combat.

    Bloch 170 series were at least as maneuverable as 110s. Bregeuet 693 should in theory have been as good, but its combat record against fighters was poor.

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    Thanks for the response Zoe.

    Do you think there is a place to pay regard to an aircraft's size and profile when considering base size? One reason I added the Do 17 was the type's remarked manoeuvrablity at low altitude, and the thin 'flying pencil' fuselage made it a difficult target. The Glenn Martin 167F had a similarly small profile.

    The Lockheed Hudson version I was considering was the up-engined Mk.I(IV). Japanese ace Saboru Sakai mentions the manouverability of the Hudson in his book 'Samurai', and there are other reports of the Hudson's responsiveness.

    I take your point on the Ju 88A, a very different aircraft to the Ju 88C, same with the B-26 and Ki-48.

    Thanks again,

    Carl.



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