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    If simple to make but dimensionally accurate plastic kits were available for the most popular WW1 planes in 1/144 scale would you buy them? Assume that they are sold in boxes of five models for £18 just like the 15mm tank models that are available. Also assume the struts are beefed up a bit to withstand the rigors of gaming. The central cabine struts are one piece of plastic. The main struts are tied top and bottom (like WoG models) so they remain easy to assemble. A well sculpted pilot figure is included on the sprue.

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    If that does ever happen there would be a stampede for them , I know I would buy some to expand my collection even further.

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    As long as I can get my wife to paint them, which I believe is quite possible.

    I would still buy Wings of Glory planes to support the game, but I would like paint schemes not offered.

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    Count me in.
    I would also buy Ares miniatures sprues as kits if available.
    Saves at least disassembling and paint stripping disasters.

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    Already do it for WWII; would happily do the same for WWI.

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    Would depend on cost and plane types but would be very interested.
    Would be even better if it included decals.
    Don

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    Yes I have with the F-toys. But I buy 99% from Ares to promote the game and keep it going.

    Thomas

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    It would depend on the plane . I also have 1/48 kits I'm not working on so adding more not a great idea

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    I might do it. It depends primarily on the price, and the aircraft available. My primary push has to be with Ares, as buying from them keeps the game running. I see using these models to fill gaps in the WoG line, similar to a lot of Shapeways offerings, but with a better finish than Shapeways.

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    I would like to see these as something superior (apparently not a high bar) to the shapeways stuff, but filling in the missing planes from the Ares collection.

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    A year or so ago there was a push to get the Wargames Factory to produce some plastic 1/144 kits but it never got enough support to make it viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt View Post
    A year or so ago there was a push to get the Wargames Factory to produce some plastic 1/144 kits but it never got enough support to make it viable.
    I was never convinced the WF polls were all they appeared to be… With the announcement today of the new line of models from Canada they may well fill the gap for those of us who want to build their own but require something rather better than Skytrex but not as high fidelity as SRAM. We've yet to find out if they will be available as kits.

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    I'm in the "it depends" crowd. I may buy them, but there are too many variables to say for sure. I think for them to be attractive to me, the price would really have to be down around $6 or $7 per plane.

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    Tim - I'd say alot depends on the types for sale but I voted yes as they would be value for money - pilot figures help - what would also help is a peg (that is an optional fit maybe?) to stick in/on the kites underside and I'd settle for 3 planes a box if they came with bases & altitude pegs !!

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    Yes, esp. D.VIIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Tim - I'd say alot depends on the types for sale but I voted yes as they would be value for money - pilot figures help - what would also help is a peg (that is an optional fit maybe?) to stick in/on the kites underside and I'd settle for 3 planes a box if they came with bases & altitude pegs !!
    Agree; price will be a major discriminating factor for many.

    Quote Originally Posted by calfaber View Post
    No complete new molds designed from the ground up. Very expensive but will be done correctly for the collectors deserning eye.

    Thanks so much. This has been a long time coming.
    From Cal's prices on eBay, potentially eye-watering!

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    Would depend on cost and plane types but would be very interested.
    Would be even better if it included decals.
    I am a definite yes, as I had hoped that Nexus or Ares would have released either unpainted versions or small kits by this time. The 1/144th injection molded aircraft would be a certain purchase for me, and I would strongly second the inclusion of decals. There are just so few options on the market. I would also like to see some additional 1/200th options for the WW2 era, but that appears to be a smaller market.

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    If the new Canadian models are only available as custom ready-mades with a heavy price tag that rules me out but as kits for reasonable price that I can decorate with their decals and I'm in big time again as long as the price is good. The issue we seem to be facing, in the UK at least, is WoG has just got too expensive at £12 a model, they've gone over the psychological £10 barrier. As plastic kits we're talking about £3 a plane, inc base, pegs and pilot figure yes?

    I think decals might have to be an add on as they are with the tanks.

    Oh and the peg – yes as a separate optional part. The f/l could have the hole blanked off in thinner plastic like kits often do so it's easy to open up the hole if you want to. You could have options on the sprue, for example different struts for the DV and the DVa. Lewis or Vickers for N17. Even a choice of a couple of differently posed pilots, one looking left or up or something as the option. Struts could be optional on the sprues, if there was space, – close to scale for the modeller or thicker for the gamer.

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    I'm up for anything that gives more choice of plane types, as long as they are of a standard that I can accept.
    Rob.

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    What Rob said. A decent wargaming standard and I'm in.

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    I'll third that motion; I put in a maybe, because too much depends on price and what planes. Gaps in the Ares line is good.
    Karl

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    One of the things that got me, and the guys in my group, hooked on this game was the idea of pre-assembled and pre-painted minis. As much as I like the idea of plane kits, I am not a modeler, so the price is going to have to look really good for me to buy into the idea.
    Last edited by jbmacek; 01-25-2013 at 13:17. Reason: added -er, though that being said, I'm not a model, either. ;)

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    I think for it to be viable you've got to start with what I think are the magnificent seven. And at the moment some in their own way represent gaps in the ARES line up but really the concept is broader than that. For a less than half the price and your time you could, if such kits were available, build up sizable collections. To aim at what ARES don't do alone isn't a viable proposition but the notion of offering more accurate far cheaper models is a potentially viable business model. If they are good enough to appeal to plane modellers as well who, let's face it, only have SRAM, then you've got a big market. Think about the first three – when are we going to be able to buy them in any numbers from ARES, later this year, next, the one after perhaps. And how many of them could you do with in your collection?

    OK the seven
    SE5a
    Fokker DVII
    Bris Fit
    Albatros DV + option for DVa
    Fokker Dr1 (F1 tail and aileron if you really want!)
    Sopwith Camel
    SPADXIII

    After those you can then go for Albatros DIII and then start on the gaps. eg Pup, 1 1/2 Strutter, N28, Fokker DVIII, DFW CV, BE2, Vickers Gunbus etc

    @jbmacek
    Yes, that's the alternate view and why I think there is space in the market for both options. I think I'm right in saying that for £4 you can by an easy build pre-coloured 1/144 WW2 warbird kit from Airfix and Revell do their Minikits. Now if Airfix did similar for WW1 we'd be all over them like a rash. I think we're aming at about £3 a kit unpainted.
    Last edited by Timmo UK; 01-25-2013 at 13:00.

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    Interesting, and im surprised f-toys never went on to do more.

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    Yes, I would probably be in for a number of the above, but I would also like to see something like the Nieuport 17, Flying Razor, Aviatik D1 and the Hannover on the list, something that is maybe a bit more unusual but not necessarily "way out there".

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    I would gladly buy those to use as conversions, build squadrons etc... This said I would also keep buying the "official" models...One can never have enough aircraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    Yes, I would probably be in for a number of the above, but I would also like to see something like the Nieuport 17, Flying Razor, Aviatik D1 and the Hannover on the list, something that is maybe a bit more unusual but not necessarily "way out there".
    Absolutely, in time all sorts could be covered but to be viable you need to generate mass sales and that means doing popular planes first. However, I put the DFW CV in the list as it's not been done and is possibly the most useful of all German 2 seaters. The Hannover would be a great one to do and the N17 is a personal favourite of mine. At the moment I'm interested to see how many votes the idea gets.

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    Timmo,
    I think you're spot-on with the 'magnificent seven': even though the Fokker Dr.I was only available in relatively small numbers and used for a short period, it is iconic of WWI in the air. I'd suggest packs of 3 rather than 5 (easier to build kettes/flights that way) and stick to the later war period (Apr 17 to the Armistice) when lone hunters had been replaced by foramtions of up to wing strength. Three for tenner sounds pretty good to me.

    To the 7 I'd add:
    - Nieuport 27 (used by France, Britain, Italy) with the rounded fuselage and larger tail surfaces which converters can then take back to a 17bis, 24, or 24bis, or with slightly more radical surgery to a slab-sided 17 or 23;
    - Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter (used by Britain, France, USA and Russia) throughout the period as fighter, recce and bomber, which converters can cover over the rear cockpit to make a single-seat bomber, or the front cockpit to make a nightfighter;
    - DH4 (used by Britain, USA) throughout the period as an escort fighter, recce and bomber;
    - DFW C.V, the most common later war German C-type; and
    - Hannover CL.III, which can also be taken back to a CL.II or forward to a CL.V.

    Alternatively, if you want to stop going head-to-head with ARES, replace the DH4 with an FE2b fighter, recce, bomber, night bomber, although only in RFC/RAF use.
    BofB
    Last edited by Baldrick62; 01-26-2013 at 05:34.

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    Baldrick

    Thanks for you suggestions they make perfect sense to me. I hadn't considered the issue of converting the Sopwith 1 1/2, great idea that as are the others. I know what you mean by the Fokker Dr1, limited numbers, short service career but just so iconic, it has to be there and there are plenty of interesting colour schemes known for the type.

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    Timmo,
    Cheers; so the 'magnificent seven' could turn into the 'desirable dozen'!

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    Probably not. I do not have the time or talent for model building, so as long as finished product is coming down the pike, I'll stick with that.

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    I'm all in for this

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    Would be nice if available by a US distributor as well...I know Hannants of UK has the SRAM line, but hard time justifying shipping cost. I've started buying from Reviresco miniatures. Although metal, they are available in US and shipping doesn't break the bank...

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    Same here. Bring them on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick62 View Post
    Already do it for WWII; would happily do the same for WWI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebird-52 View Post
    Would be nice if available by a US distributor as well
    LOL, a UK distributor for some of these projects that are US based would be good too!

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    You darn tootin' I buy these WoG compatible kits! Where do I sign up?

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    I'd be up for it, especially planes that are not available.

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    1/200 - Bf109F, Fw190A, P-39, P-36, Typhoon, Tempest, La5FN, Ki-100, Ki-44, Yak-9B, Pe-2, Mosquito...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoe Brain View Post
    1/200 - Bf109F, Fw190A, P-39, P-36, Typhoon, Tempest, La5FN, Ki-100, Ki-44, Yak-9B, Pe-2, Mosquito...
    None of which are either 1/144 scale or WWI!

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    I,m in the perhaps group the main reason I play wog is the straight out of the box factor I have so much lead and plastic sat unbuilt and or unpainted I try not to add too much more ,but if hey were the right price possibly ,if h they had flight stands included then definately

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    i would like that very very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick62 View Post
    Timmo,
    ... I'd suggest packs of 3 rather than 5 (easier to build kettes/flights that way) and stick to the later war period (Apr 17 to the Armistice) when lone hunters had been replaced by foramtions of up to wing strength. Three for tenner sounds pretty good to me. ...
    The flight, or squadron, option would be the attraction for me. I'd buy the Ares plane on which to base the group, but use the kits to do up more similar planes. This means I'd need to have books on proper squadron markings, or the kits would have to have decal options (probably too much to expect too many decals per kit). Or the members of this forum could help with custom decals? Hint, hint...

    Mike:-)

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    Sounds a nice idea. The kits would need to be simple though, I wouldn't have the time to pfaff about connecting individual struts etc. I wouldn't want a plastic version of the Red Eagle kits.

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    I'm up for that, the more planes available the better. Would be good too if they were ones not already available.

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    Sounds good to me, I'm in

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    Sounds great, but with various decals included it would sound even better.

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    This sounds like a great idea. I'd rather play than model and so I like the pre-made and painted Ares aircraft. That said, I would definitely look at plastic kits to fill the gaps.

    I tend to dislike these polls simply because they get my hopes up and you'd have to sell a lot of these kits because of the costs involved with plastic moulding.

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    You never know! But, certainly, we shouldn't hope to much. Usualy, I believe it when I see it. But, Idea is fine.

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    Personally I really like the Ares mini's. The out of the box and play right away is very appealing as I'm not much of a modeller. But I suppose if the price was right and the availability in Canada of build your own was easy, I'd give it a go of building a squadron or two. Worst comes to worse, if the builds didn't work out I'd have some amazing looking wreckage to put on my new game mats !LOL!

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    It would depend on the cost and types of planes available. Also, why 5 planes to a kit?

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