Nice pair Steve, like the tail work.
Nice pair Steve, like the tail work.
Ares Sopwith Camel
Here is my first Sopwith Camel repaint, in the scheme of Otto Kissenberth. It was formerly a Roy Brown model, the decals are home printed.
Nice Brian, you have been very busy with the brush.
Another very neat job Brian.
Very tasty.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Nice work, Brian.
The decals are awesome.
Voilŕ le soleil d'Austerlitz!
Love that one, Brian! Very well done.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Well done
I have never seen a Camel with the Cross. Very interesting.
A Brown Camel is Hard to Find.
I could not find a reasonably priced Arthur Roy Brown Camel so I made my own!
Very nice work William! Striping looks good.
Maybe I should work off of a calendar and then I could keep of better schedule of my hobby.
Decided to do something with my spare Ellwood Camel's and having found some pics of markings in a very old Military Modelling mag I opted for a couple of Camels from B Flight of No 3 Sqn RFC / RAF:
B Flight had white painted wheel covers and numbers to identify the individual machines. A & C Flights had letters with red and blue wheel covers respectively.
Number 7 is the machine of George Raby (aka Jack) Riley MC DFC 13 victories and a well known ace balloon buster. Not sure of 8 but that could be be Lt J.A McDonald's he had 5 victories I think I read somewhere.
3 Sqn were in the same Wing (13) as 56, 60 & 87 sqns so a good pick as it turned out; it was also where McCudden started his career.
Incidentally, I found that Revell 42 Yellowish Olive a good match for PC10. Comes as acrylic & oil paint.
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Sapiens qui vigilat "He is wise who watches"
Nice
Very useful info Dave, and also two very good looking machines.Originally Posted by flash
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Nice job on the repaints.
More nice work Dave..deserves a double
Very nice, Dave.
I need to start making my duplicates look at least a little different.
Anyone up for a painting challenge?
From this:
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
There you go Mike, now the elves are digging through the box-o-extras . . . . thanks, it does look cool!
Okay, so now the elves have some questions . . . according to your original graphic, they see a different color of blue for the wide diagonal stripes - a dark blue - (upper left wing) instead of the insignia blue radiating off the roundels and alternating with the white thin diagonals on the right panel . . .
Is the leading edge on the lower right wing as my sketch shows, a different brown or dark blue for the triangle adjacent to the white stripe and the diagonal a PC-10 brown or is the triangle shape PC-10 and the wider diagonal dark blue as it is on the top right wing??
You started this . . . : )
More of a challenge than I thought.Okay, so now the elves have some questions . . . according to your original graphic, they see a different color of blue for the wide diagonal stripes - a dark blue - (upper left wing) instead of the insignia blue radiating off the roundels and alternating with the white thin diagonals on the right panel . . .
Is the leading edge on the lower right wing as my sketch shows, a different brown or dark blue for the triangle adjacent to the white stripe and the diagonal a PC-10 brown or is the triangle shape PC-10 and the wider diagonal dark blue as it is on the top right wing??
You started this . . . : )
My take on the colors, after a bit of research...
Sample images from model kits:
Not complicated, at all.
PS: Some images from this site: Aeroscale.co.uk - Dazzle Camel
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Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
This Camel looks absolutely spectacular, Mike! What a great find...it would be equally splendid on the gaming board.
All the best,
Matt
Matt,This Camel looks absolutely spectacular, Mike! What a great find...it would be equally splendid on the gaming board.
All the best,
Matt
Royal Naval Air Station Eastchurch was a training school, so this plane was never on the front line.
The powers-that-be in the British air services of WWI were adamantly against any personalization or extravagance in paint schemes on the front lines. Even the color striping on engine cowlings of the No. 10 RNAS Camels was ordered off within weeks of appearing, regardless of how popular the scheme is now.
Being that it wasn't ever in combat, Ares would be unlikely to produce it. Clipper, though? All bets are off.
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
Like that has slowed me down before . . .
: )
Another training aircraft. And I haven't done a card for this?Like that has slowed me down before . . .
...
: )
Something I found looking for better drawings of the above plane: RAF Museum - Concealment, Illusion and Manifestation/
Weird stuff on this page.
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
Sorry if this is a repeat, I can't find it...
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
Very nice! Thank you!
Very stimulating chaps.
I will have to look out that spare Camel when I get a bit of spare time.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Perhaps it could 'fly in anger' in a Home Defense role, Mike?
Nevertheless, it really is quite lovely - almost a shame the dark 'base color' isn't a fresh coat of PC10 rather than black - I think that would look even neater in the color mix.
All the best,
Matt
A pair of baltic 2F1 Ship's Camels. One Estonian, one Latvian.
Here's my recent repaint from flight C - this was formerly a Nexus Elwood model, paint by Vallejo and decals by 144 Direct.
Lovely!
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
And there is a card for that plane... OldGuy59's Zio Prudenzio Paper Plane Cards
Very nice paint job, though!
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Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
Nice! Thanks for the card Mike!
Brilliant!
Three pictures of my recently-completed Raymond Collishaw Camel, flown by him as leader of the Seaplane Protection Squadron. It's a pretty straightforward complete repaint of Barker's Camel, with Collishaw's initial painted on in the appropriate spots.
All the best,
Matt
Again, I admired this at Origins, Matt. I might have to look into this squadron if I keep attacking shipping
Karl
It is impossible for a man to begin to learn what he thinks he knows. -- Epictetus
The road to rocky ruin - my first repaint, with thanks to Oberst Hajj. Needed another RAF Camel for the OTT Mission 12 scenario. Decided I wanted a 209 Squadron aircraft, but had difficulty finding very many references for them. Settled on this "Brown" repaint as Oberst Hajj posted a very nice and useful photo of it, right at the beginning of this thread. If anyone has any information on more, different, designs for this Squadron, either as 209 or RNAS 9, I'd be grateful for a look see
Mike
PM sent Mike.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Here's my latest repaint - a flight 'B' Camel. Formerly was an Ares Elwood model, with Vallejo paint and 144 direct decals.
Nice work, Brian.
Looks terrific.
Great looking repaints, Brian. Very nice.
RNAS 9 - an addition to the flight. Shall add more at some stage. Info for this one comes from Cross & Cockade Vol 45/1 Spring 2014.
The simplest of all Sopwith Camel repaints
Today I present you with ….
The simplest of all Sopwith Camel repaints …
But .... it is not just a another Camel ....
It is the Camel flown by the Baroness Petra “Chérie” De Karlowitz during 1917.
Not possible ? You don’t believe me ?
OK, here’s the story as given to me by the famous Italian historian Dr. Attilio Micheluzzi.
Petra (“Chérie” as she was known to friends) was born in 1894 as the daughter of Baron Jan de Karlowitz (born in Krakow, 1849 – died in Paris 1912) and his beautiful wife Eliane (born in Paris 1884 - died in Vienna 1909).
Jan De Karlowitz was a very successful businessman owning banks and insurance companies in the Far East, rubber plantations on Borneo and Sumatra and also a large trading house in Hamburg.
After his death his beautiful, young, intelligent, enterprising and non-conformist daughter took care of his various businesses, although only 18 years old. Already early in 1913 she learned to fly (please note: there were at that time only 4 women in Europe with a pilot’s license !) and soon she honed her flying skills to perfection.
When war in Europe broke out in 1914 Petra was in the Far East attending to her late fathers business in the Chinese province Canton. During the first years of the war she stayed neutral until in late 1916 she started to favour the Entente (esp. the Italians and the Brits). Later asked why, Petra answered that she had nothing against the Germans or the Austrians and actually admired them. Her choice, so to speak, was based on nothing more than a feeling.
In 1917 she was living together with her Chinese manservant in a mansion near Sluis, a small village in the utmost South West of The Netherlands, close to the Belgian border and the North Sea. Through ways as yet undiscovered she had acquired a Sopwith Camel and painted it an overall “fog grey”, with no national or other insignia at all.
With this Camel she flew quite a few missions … going out over the North Sea and coming back over the flat countryside of Belgian Flanders. She endeavored to come to the aid of entente airmen being attacked by German planes. After her actions (which brought her several aerial victories, enough to make her at least a double ace !) she would disappear as quickly as she had appeared into the grey clouds, which made her "fog grey" Camel almost immediately invisible...
Both the German High Command as well as the British were baffled by what was happening. Whatever they tried, they never found out. Nor did the Dutch ever find out that from their neutral country a ghost plane was involved in the war.
Later in the war Petra was active in and around Venice and Istanbul. But alas, the last she was heard of was when she boarded a train in Istanbul to travel to Vienna. The most likely reason she never was seen again is that the train en route through the Balkans was attacked by armed bands … one can only hope she died fighting ...
And so ends the story of a remarkable woman … One can but wonder what would have become of her if she had survived the war …
To add to the credebility of this story I must tell you that it was none other than Andrea Angiolillo who first told me this story and who put me into contact with Dr. Attilio Micheluzzi …
In memory of Petra "Chérie" De Karlowitz
cheers
Guus
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"zet 'm op ... witte muizen !" (strijdkreet van 1e JaVa, Luchtvaart Afdeling, Nederland 1940)
"let's go get them ... white mice !" (battlecry of the 1st Fighter Group, Army Air Force, Netherlands 1940)
Many thanks for that as I had never even heard a 'sniff" of that amazing tale before.
Rep inbound if Guns NOT Jammed!
Guus this story should be repeated down in the Officers Club where many more will see it!
Thanks for that great story Guus.
Great post, Guus!
Great story, where's the movie?!!
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Only one word...
NIIIICE!
Thanks Peter, Barry and Steve for the REP ! Appreciated
cheers,
Guus
"zet 'm op ... witte muizen !" (strijdkreet van 1e JaVa, Luchtvaart Afdeling, Nederland 1940)
"let's go get them ... white mice !" (battlecry of the 1st Fighter Group, Army Air Force, Netherlands 1940)
Good story, and plane, to draw in more ladies?
Mike
"Flying is learning to throw yourself at the ground and miss" Douglas Adams
"Wings of Glory won't skin your elbows and knees while practicing." OldGuy59
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