Sweet set of DIIIs Tim. Did they all get to fly at Doncaster?
Sweet set of DIIIs Tim. Did they all get to fly at Doncaster?
Beautiful work and setting, Tim.
I sure wish I had your skill.
(of course the first thing I'd have to do is lose the "shake")
All looking good Tim. I have 9 shapeways DIII's to paint for Jasta 2. Some nice inspiration from all who have posted.
Neil
See you on the Dark Side......
Nice flight of D.IIIs.
Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!
Thanks, chaps!
Lots of 'Jasta 11' D.IIIs coming next!
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Excellent Tim, although now I am going to have to repaint my F-Toys Goring.
Re the paints had a look at the wbsite but couldnt se the Albatross paints only a Fokker , you got a link or where did you get them ?
I'm not sure how to say that. Lovely, Wonderful, Masterpiece...
Thanks for sharing.
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Manfred von Richthofen
My F-toys MvR repaint from last year, retouched to match the other 6 Jasta 11 birds.
New silver windscreen, silver goggles on the man himself, 'cold grey' tyres replacing the earlier 'black grey'.
Repainted upper wing with "Aviation Wings" decals.
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:09.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Lothar von Richthofen
F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
Fuselage: Flat Yellow, overpainted with Natural Wood, Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
Rudder: " Misterkit" German Natural Linen
Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers).
Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.
Fuselage band; Red
All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.
Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:35.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Karl Allmenroder
F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
Fuselage: mix of German Sky Grey and Russian Uniform; Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers).
Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.
All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.
Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:34.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Kurt Wolff
F-Toys Albatros D.III "Goering"
Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
Fuselage: Royal Purple overall including struts, undercarriage, also wheel covers. Silver windscreen.
Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue.
Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.
All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.
Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:41.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Karl Emil Schafer
F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
Fuselage: Flat Yellow, overpainted with Natural Wood, Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
Rudder & aft fuselage; Black
Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers).
Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.
All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.
Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:47.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Hans-Georg Eduard "Eddie" Lubbert
F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
Fuselage: quartered in Lemon Yellow and "Misterkit" Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers), Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue.
Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.
All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.
Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:54.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Jasta 11, March->early April 1917
Konstantin Krefft
F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
Fuselage: Flat Yellow, overpainted with Natural Wood, Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
Rudder: " Misterkit" Albatros Pale Green
Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue.
Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.
Fuselage band: White
Fuselage wavy stripe, spinner, wheel covers; Red
All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.
Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct", white band Crosses by "Aerodrome Accessories"
Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 16:02.
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Well done on the MvR repaint, but that was the only set of pics that are currently showing.
Thanks!
I'm still adding the pictures to the others - Lothar should be visible now!
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Truth, each one of these should earn you some rep, but there are these peaky rules.
My thanks to the both of you!
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
Great work as always Tim. You must have just about every Jasta by now......?
See you on the Dark Side......
That's where you are wrong Neil. There is still half a Jasta he has to get.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Nice & clear work, Tim.
Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!
I've been working a couple of scratch builds based on the original pair of FA300 Albatrosen (D636/17 and D2174/16) as seen here:
Still waiting for insignia decals, but pretty happy with how they turned out.
One D.III fuselage is a piece of dowel shaped down into the right shape; the other is built up around a plasticard frame using epoxy putty. The latter is far easier, I've found.
The observant may notice the planes were originally made with twin radiators... but neither of these two appear to have ever been equipped that way, so I adjusted them. D2174/16 seems to have had a beefed up single radiator installed, but details on D636/17 are sketchy. It was captured after having the radiator and fuel tank holed and 1 Squadron AFC repaired them to get it airworthy before being shipped off for evaluation. All the photos I have of it after capture have the radiator missing, though it clearly only has the one hole, offset to the right.
Mostly Vallejo paints. Wing camo is 70.982 Cavalry Brown/70893 US Dark Green/70.885 Pastel Green. Underwing is Army Painter Ice Storm. Both fuselages were painted in 70877 Goldbrown; D2174/16 was then given a heavy wash of 70871 Leather Brown (which is also used for the pilots and cockpit edging). Spinner/Cowling/Struts/Wheelcovers are 70907 Pale Greyblue. Army Painter Strong Tone was used for shading. D636/17 rudder was done with 70.918 Ivory, D2174/16 rudder was done with 70819 Iraqui Sand. 70.863 Gunmetal Grey for the engine and guns.
Last edited by flash; 06-10-2020 at 01:24.
Amazing work.
A Master Modeler for certain.
REP inbound.
Bl**dy excellent Mark! Very impressive
Mark those Albatros D.III's looking brilliant
Great efforts there Tim and Mark, I love a good looking Albatros.
Tim your Jasta is absolutely gorgeous. Great work.
Here's to them what are like us. Damn few and they're all dead.
Thanks for the rep and kind words all.
WOW!! Amazing work by all. I agree Master Modeler's for sure.
Beauties Mark. I am always amazed to see those that take apart the planes to repaint them. You gotta love what you are doing with the work put into it.
It was half blue & half yellow Paul but done in quarters - if you scroll up Tim has done one in post #224
Sapiens qui vigilat... "He is wise who watches"
That's not what the Eduard instructions show. Perhaps theirs is based on the FA(A) 263 airplane which is from photo where the top could be yellow or brown or dark green. I did find an online comment where it mentioned Lubbert stating top in yellow and bottom and blue.
The Eduard instructions state:
"The specific scheme on this aircraft is a bit of a puzzle. This aircraft is visible in the background in some Jasta 11 photographs from April 1917, and is attributed to Hans-Georg Lubbert. In that case, the top surface of the fuselage should, according to written documentation, be in yellow. The same scheme is attributed to Rudolf Hohberg on different and more detailed photographs. Apparently, that aircraft was used by FA(A) 263 as a high speed recce bird with a fuselage mounted camera. The question then becomes one concerning the color and markings. The top half of the fuselage appears very dark. It is possible that this was Lubbert's earlier aircraft, in which case the fuselage color could be yellow (yellow showed up very dark on contemporary film). It cannot be ruled out that this was a different aircraft, or the same aircraft repainted, where the yellow could have been replaced by likely brown or dark green."
The color illustrations for the Eduard model are clearly top yellow and bottom blue as top, bottom and side views are given. It's model 8097.
No references are given and model suppliers have been wrong before, but I found nothing else online to contradict Eduard. However, I'm sure Tim has done his homework. Nonetheless this Albatros D.III will remain as is for Rudolf Hohberg FA(A) 263.
These have references - Albatros Publications with page numbers (I don't have either of the Albatros publications):
http://www.mincbergr.net/index.php?p...96-16---faa263
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...t=46492&page=2
Last edited by ShadowDragon; 06-08-2019 at 10:26.
Even with my eyesight you can certainly see that one coming Paul.
Rob.
"Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."
Eduard's painting scheme is probably incorrect, at least in light of newer research; it was probably correct at time of going to press.
The controversy over 1996/16 has continued for a while, but is starting to become clearer.
It IS the same aircraft as flown by Hans-Georg Eduard "Eddie" Lubbert, and also by MvR after Lubbert's death. It was handed on to FA(A) 263 and still carries the same airframe number.
Lubbert's own written description, along with those of other Jasta 11 pilots, confirm the yellow/blue scheme, but are inconclusive on the quartering.
All the photos I am aware of show Rudolf Hoberg's machine from the port side only - there are none from the starboard side.
My interpretation grew out of "The Blue Max Airmen" Volume #5, only published last year. It shows two photos of 1996/16, from the port side and, crucially, from the starboard side.
At least, in the background of the second photo there is a plane displaying a horizontally-split fuselage colour scheme, but the "black" chrome yellow is below on the starboard side, not on top. This would mean that the yellow/blue segments were quartered, not a simple yellow-above/blue-below scheme.
One of the other Jasta 11 pilots mentions a quartered scheme plane but, frustratingly, does not name the pilot.
It is possible that there was a second horizontally-split paint scheme plane in Jasta 11, but there is no evidence for it, written, photographed or anecdotal.
I assumed it to be so unlikely that I went with the most likely interpretation.
It is, of course, possible that 1996/16 was repainted while at FA(A)263, but why bother? It serves no purpose.
When 'Eduard' published their paint scheme, it is entirely possible that they did not have this information - it is also possible that they just "plane" made a mistake; it certainly wouldn't be their first!
I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!
I registered for the Aerodrome site and looked at the reference photos which are the ones you mentioned above. Your interpretation is almost certainly the correct one. Although from reading the Jasta 23 and 30 books it seems that there was a fair bit of 'playing around' with paint schemes. However, if Hohberg had the plane repainted it would likely have been to something completely different.
I may repaint but it would require repainting around 3 decals - crosses on tail and fuselage and serial number in wood on tail. I hate painting around decals and even more so with an assembled aircraft. I doubt I will use the Reviresco planes a lot as I find them too heavy for game play. I have a DH2 to do and will see how that goes but I doubt I will buy any more metal planes.
ETA: I do expect it to niggle at me until I change it, so it's really a slow process of retreat and then...
Last edited by ShadowDragon; 06-09-2019 at 06:42.
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