Ares Games
Page 5 of 11 FirstFirst 1234567891011 LastLast
Results 201 to 250 of 527

Thread: Official Albatros D.III painting thread.

  1. #201

    Default

    Sweet set of DIIIs Tim. Did they all get to fly at Doncaster?

  2. #202

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    Sweet set of DIIIs Tim. Did they all get to fly at Doncaster?
    Frommherz, MvR, Goering and the Green/Mauve one all got a boot in!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  3. #203

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Frommherz, MvR, Goering and the Green/Mauve one all got a boot in!
    Fantastic. I always find it very satisfying to get newly painted kites in the air. I'm sure those that flew them felt honored.

  4. #204

    Default

    Beautiful work and setting, Tim.
    I sure wish I had your skill.

    (of course the first thing I'd have to do is lose the "shake")

  5. #205

    Default

    All looking good Tim. I have 9 shapeways DIII's to paint for Jasta 2. Some nice inspiration from all who have posted.

    Neil
    See you on the Dark Side......

  6. #206

    Default

    Nice flight of D.IIIs.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  7. #207

    Default

    Thanks, chaps!

    Lots of 'Jasta 11' D.IIIs coming next!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  8. #208

    Default

    Excellent Tim, although now I am going to have to repaint my F-Toys Goring.
    Re the paints had a look at the wbsite but couldnt se the Albatross paints only a Fokker , you got a link or where did you get them ?

  9. #209

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Boney10 View Post
    Excellent Tim, although now I am going to have to repaint my F-Toys Goring.
    Re the paints had a look at the website but couldnt see the Albatros paints only a Fokker , you got a link or where did you get them ?
    I got them from "Albion Alloys" in Poole, through their website.

    I think I have a link on my laptop at home - I'll have a look later.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  10. #210

    Default

    Nice work as always Tim.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Thanks, chaps!
    Lots of 'Jasta 11' D.IIIs coming next!
    Looking forward to these!

  11. #211

    Default

    Flik 41J

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132813.jpg 
Views:	307 
Size:	88.1 KB 
ID:	236664
    From right to left: Hptm. Godwin Brumowski (Neux repaint), Fw. Kurt Gruber (Ares original), Oblt. Frank Linke-Crawford, and Stfw. Karl Kaszala (little repainting and re-decalling)

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_133120.jpg 
Views:	312 
Size:	100.5 KB 
ID:	236665Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132906.jpg 
Views:	314 
Size:	101.9 KB 
ID:	236666

  12. #212

    Default

    Albatros D.III OEFFAG 153.52 Godwin von Brumowski, Flik 41/J, Passarella, Italia Feb. 1918
    Repainting from an Old Neux Albatross D.III

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132434.jpg 
Views:	313 
Size:	88.5 KB 
ID:	236667Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132505.jpg 
Views:	312 
Size:	88.5 KB 
ID:	236668Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132517.jpg 
Views:	309 
Size:	89.6 KB 
ID:	236669Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132523.jpg 
Views:	311 
Size:	90.1 KB 
ID:	236670Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_132558.jpg 
Views:	311 
Size:	131.9 KB 
ID:	236671Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_134353.jpg 
Views:	312 
Size:	91.4 KB 
ID:	236672Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_134538.jpg 
Views:	308 
Size:	74.6 KB 
ID:	236673Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20171124_134922.jpg 
Views:	308 
Size:	83.3 KB 
ID:	236674

  13. #213

    Default

    I'm not sure how to say that. Lovely, Wonderful, Masterpiece...
    Thanks for sharing.

  14. #214

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Manfred von Richthofen

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (1).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	85.5 KB 
ID:	245797


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (2).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	85.4 KB 
ID:	245798


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (3).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	83.6 KB 
ID:	245799


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (4).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	82.7 KB 
ID:	245800


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (5).jpg 
Views:	279 
Size:	88.3 KB 
ID:	245801

    My F-toys MvR repaint from last year, retouched to match the other 6 Jasta 11 birds.
    New silver windscreen, silver goggles on the man himself, 'cold grey' tyres replacing the earlier 'black grey'.
    Repainted upper wing with "Aviation Wings" decals.
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:09.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  15. #215

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Lothar von Richthofen

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (6).jpg 
Views:	276 
Size:	81.0 KB 
ID:	245802


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (8).jpg 
Views:	276 
Size:	78.7 KB 
ID:	245803


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (9).jpg 
Views:	277 
Size:	84.1 KB 
ID:	245804


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (10).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	82.5 KB 
ID:	245805


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (11).jpg 
Views:	280 
Size:	80.7 KB 
ID:	245806

    F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
    Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
    Fuselage: Flat Yellow, overpainted with Natural Wood, Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
    Rudder: " Misterkit" German Natural Linen
    Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers).
    Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
    Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.

    Fuselage band; Red

    All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.

    Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:35.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  16. #216

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Karl Allmenroder

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (12).jpg 
Views:	280 
Size:	80.1 KB 
ID:	245807


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (14).jpg 
Views:	280 
Size:	79.9 KB 
ID:	245808


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (15).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	81.0 KB 
ID:	245809


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (17).jpg 
Views:	277 
Size:	79.1 KB 
ID:	245810


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (20).jpg 
Views:	277 
Size:	83.2 KB 
ID:	245811

    F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
    Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
    Fuselage: mix of German Sky Grey and Russian Uniform; Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
    Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers).
    Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
    Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.

    All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.

    Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:34.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  17. #217

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Kurt Wolff

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (21).jpg 
Views:	278 
Size:	86.7 KB 
ID:	245812


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (22).jpg 
Views:	279 
Size:	79.6 KB 
ID:	245813


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (23).jpg 
Views:	275 
Size:	84.1 KB 
ID:	245814


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (24).jpg 
Views:	276 
Size:	80.3 KB 
ID:	245815


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (26).jpg 
Views:	276 
Size:	88.5 KB 
ID:	245816

    F-Toys Albatros D.III "Goering"
    Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
    Fuselage: Royal Purple overall including struts, undercarriage, also wheel covers. Silver windscreen.
    Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue.
    Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
    Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.

    All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.

    Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:41.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  18. #218

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Karl Emil Schafer

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (28).jpg 
Views:	274 
Size:	85.0 KB 
ID:	245817


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (29).jpg 
Views:	274 
Size:	80.3 KB 
ID:	245818


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (31).jpg 
Views:	272 
Size:	84.4 KB 
ID:	245819


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (33).jpg 
Views:	273 
Size:	87.3 KB 
ID:	245820


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (34).jpg 
Views:	272 
Size:	87.0 KB 
ID:	245821

    F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
    Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
    Fuselage: Flat Yellow, overpainted with Natural Wood, Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
    Rudder & aft fuselage; Black
    Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers).
    Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
    Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.

    All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.

    Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:47.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  19. #219

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Hans-Georg Eduard "Eddie" Lubbert

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (37).jpg 
Views:	273 
Size:	76.1 KB 
ID:	245822


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (39).jpg 
Views:	273 
Size:	80.2 KB 
ID:	245823


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (42).jpg 
Views:	272 
Size:	87.4 KB 
ID:	245824


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (43).jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	84.4 KB 
ID:	245825


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (44).jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	78.3 KB 
ID:	245826

    F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
    Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
    Fuselage: quartered in Lemon Yellow and "Misterkit" Albatros Pale Blue (also wheel covers), Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
    Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue.
    Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
    Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.

    All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.

    Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct".
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 15:54.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  20. #220

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    Konstantin Krefft

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (45).jpg 
Views:	271 
Size:	83.9 KB 
ID:	245827


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (49).jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	82.0 KB 
ID:	245828


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (51).jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	86.5 KB 
ID:	245829


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (53).jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	81.9 KB 
ID:	245830


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (54).jpg 
Views:	272 
Size:	89.3 KB 
ID:	245831

    F-Toys Albatros D.III "Frommherz" Blue Maus
    Pilot; Bronzed Flesh face, Leather Brown helmet, Silver goggles
    Fuselage: Flat Yellow, overpainted with Natural Wood, Grey Green engine panels, struts, undercarriage. Silver windscreen.
    Rudder: " Misterkit" Albatros Pale Green
    Wings: "Misterkit" Albatros Dark Green, Albatros Red Brown, Albatros Pale Green, underside Albatros Pale Blue.
    Engine: Oily Steel, inked with Black Ink, then drybrushed Silver.
    Prop blades: Yellow Ochre, overpainted Natural Wood.

    Fuselage band: White
    Fuselage wavy stripe, spinner, wheel covers; Red

    All colours "Vallejo", except for "Misterkit" wing quartet.

    Decals by "Aviation Wings", except for wing top radiator by "1/144 Direct", white band Crosses by "Aerodrome Accessories"
    Last edited by Flying Helmut; 04-27-2018 at 16:02.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  21. #221

    Default

    Well done on the MvR repaint, but that was the only set of pics that are currently showing.

  22. #222

    Default

    Thanks!

    I'm still adding the pictures to the others - Lothar should be visible now!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  23. #223

    Default

    Jasta 11, March->early April 1917

    All seven...................


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (63).jpg 
Views:	272 
Size:	120.8 KB 
ID:	245833


    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Jasta 11 (60).jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	142.2 KB 
ID:	245834
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  24. #224

    Default

    Truth, each one of these should earn you some rep, but there are these peaky rules.

  25. #225

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by zenlizard View Post
    Truth, each one of these should earn you some rep, but there are these peaky rules.
    S'ok Sam - I repped Tim for both of us!

  26. #226

    Default

    My thanks to the both of you!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  27. #227

    Default

    Great work as always Tim. You must have just about every Jasta by now......?
    See you on the Dark Side......

  28. #228

    Default

    That's where you are wrong Neil. There is still half a Jasta he has to get.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

  29. #229

    Default

    Nice & clear work, Tim.
    Voilà le soleil d'Austerlitz!

  30. #230

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Great work as always Tim. You must have just about every Jasta by now......?
    Not yet, Neil, not yet................
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  31. #231

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Marechallannes View Post
    Nice & clear work, Tim.
    Thanks Sven, and thanks too for the Rep!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  32. #232

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Skafloc View Post
    Great work as always Tim. You must have just about every Jasta by now......?
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Not yet, Neil, not yet................
    You must be getting close!

    Fantastic new flight Tim.

  33. #233

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Teaticket View Post
    You must be getting close!
    I wish! The "to do" list is still longer than the "done" list!

    Glad you like them Peter. Your 'Krefft' was an inspiration to get these done.
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  34. #234

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    I wish! The "to do" list is still longer than the "done" list!

    Glad you like them Peter. Your 'Krefft' was an inspiration to get these done.
    Your Jastas are an inspiration. I have several I want to starting this fall when I have time.

  35. #235

    Default

    I've been working a couple of scratch builds based on the original pair of FA300 Albatrosen (D636/17 and D2174/16) as seen here:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	alb001.jpg 
Views:	211 
Size:	64.1 KB 
ID:	247777
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Alb002.jpg 
Views:	214 
Size:	86.4 KB 
ID:	247778
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Alb008.jpg 
Views:	212 
Size:	47.6 KB 
ID:	247779
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Alb007.jpg 
Views:	212 
Size:	32.5 KB 
ID:	247780
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Alb009.jpg 
Views:	215 
Size:	36.7 KB 
ID:	247781

    Still waiting for insignia decals, but pretty happy with how they turned out.

    One D.III fuselage is a piece of dowel shaped down into the right shape; the other is built up around a plasticard frame using epoxy putty. The latter is far easier, I've found.

    The observant may notice the planes were originally made with twin radiators... but neither of these two appear to have ever been equipped that way, so I adjusted them. D2174/16 seems to have had a beefed up single radiator installed, but details on D636/17 are sketchy. It was captured after having the radiator and fuel tank holed and 1 Squadron AFC repaired them to get it airworthy before being shipped off for evaluation. All the photos I have of it after capture have the radiator missing, though it clearly only has the one hole, offset to the right.

    Mostly Vallejo paints. Wing camo is 70.982 Cavalry Brown/70893 US Dark Green/70.885 Pastel Green. Underwing is Army Painter Ice Storm. Both fuselages were painted in 70877 Goldbrown; D2174/16 was then given a heavy wash of 70871 Leather Brown (which is also used for the pilots and cockpit edging). Spinner/Cowling/Struts/Wheelcovers are 70907 Pale Greyblue. Army Painter Strong Tone was used for shading. D636/17 rudder was done with 70.918 Ivory, D2174/16 rudder was done with 70819 Iraqui Sand. 70.863 Gunmetal Grey for the engine and guns.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1200px-German_Albatross_D.III_fighters_at_Huj_1917.jpg  
    Last edited by flash; 06-10-2020 at 01:24.

  36. #236

    Default

    Amazing work.
    A Master Modeler for certain.
    REP inbound.

  37. #237

    Default

    Bl**dy excellent Mark! Very impressive

  38. #238

    Default

    Mark those Albatros D.III's looking brilliant

  39. #239

    Default

    Great efforts there Tim and Mark, I love a good looking Albatros.

  40. #240

    Default

    Tim your Jasta is absolutely gorgeous. Great work.


    Here's to them what are like us. Damn few and they're all dead.

  41. #241

    Default

    Thanks for the rep and kind words all.

  42. #242

    Default

    WOW!! Amazing work by all. I agree Master Modeler's for sure.

  43. #243

    Default

    Beauties Mark. I am always amazed to see those that take apart the planes to repaint them. You gotta love what you are doing with the work put into it.

  44. #244

    Default

    A Reviresco Albatros D.III - Hans-Georg Eduard “Eddie” Lübbert, Jasta 11.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Albatros DIII Lubbert v1.jpg 
Views:	103 
Size:	140.8 KB 
ID:	269032

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Albatros DIII Lubbert v2.jpg 
Views:	103 
Size:	151.0 KB 
ID:	269031
    Last edited by ShadowDragon; 06-09-2019 at 10:44.

  45. #245

    Default

    It was half blue & half yellow Paul but done in quarters - if you scroll up Tim has done one in post #224

    "He is wise who watches"

  46. #246

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    It was half blue & half yellow Paul but done in quarters - if you scroll up Tim has done one in post #224
    That's not what the Eduard instructions show. Perhaps theirs is based on the FA(A) 263 airplane which is from photo where the top could be yellow or brown or dark green. I did find an online comment where it mentioned Lubbert stating top in yellow and bottom and blue.

    The Eduard instructions state:

    "The specific scheme on this aircraft is a bit of a puzzle. This aircraft is visible in the background in some Jasta 11 photographs from April 1917, and is attributed to Hans-Georg Lubbert. In that case, the top surface of the fuselage should, according to written documentation, be in yellow. The same scheme is attributed to Rudolf Hohberg on different and more detailed photographs. Apparently, that aircraft was used by FA(A) 263 as a high speed recce bird with a fuselage mounted camera. The question then becomes one concerning the color and markings. The top half of the fuselage appears very dark. It is possible that this was Lubbert's earlier aircraft, in which case the fuselage color could be yellow (yellow showed up very dark on contemporary film). It cannot be ruled out that this was a different aircraft, or the same aircraft repainted, where the yellow could have been replaced by likely brown or dark green."

    The color illustrations for the Eduard model are clearly top yellow and bottom blue as top, bottom and side views are given. It's model 8097.

    No references are given and model suppliers have been wrong before, but I found nothing else online to contradict Eduard. However, I'm sure Tim has done his homework. Nonetheless this Albatros D.III will remain as is for Rudolf Hohberg FA(A) 263.

    These have references - Albatros Publications with page numbers (I don't have either of the Albatros publications):

    http://www.mincbergr.net/index.php?p...96-16---faa263

    http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...t=46492&page=2
    Last edited by ShadowDragon; 06-08-2019 at 10:26.

  47. #247

    Default

    Even with my eyesight you can certainly see that one coming Paul.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

  48. #248

    Default

    Eduard's painting scheme is probably incorrect, at least in light of newer research; it was probably correct at time of going to press.

    The controversy over 1996/16 has continued for a while, but is starting to become clearer.

    It IS the same aircraft as flown by Hans-Georg Eduard "Eddie" Lubbert, and also by MvR after Lubbert's death. It was handed on to FA(A) 263 and still carries the same airframe number.
    Lubbert's own written description, along with those of other Jasta 11 pilots, confirm the yellow/blue scheme, but are inconclusive on the quartering.

    All the photos I am aware of show Rudolf Hoberg's machine from the port side only - there are none from the starboard side.

    My interpretation grew out of "The Blue Max Airmen" Volume #5, only published last year. It shows two photos of 1996/16, from the port side and, crucially, from the starboard side.
    At least, in the background of the second photo there is a plane displaying a horizontally-split fuselage colour scheme, but the "black" chrome yellow is below on the starboard side, not on top. This would mean that the yellow/blue segments were quartered, not a simple yellow-above/blue-below scheme.
    One of the other Jasta 11 pilots mentions a quartered scheme plane but, frustratingly, does not name the pilot.

    It is possible that there was a second horizontally-split paint scheme plane in Jasta 11, but there is no evidence for it, written, photographed or anecdotal.
    I assumed it to be so unlikely that I went with the most likely interpretation.

    It is, of course, possible that 1996/16 was repainted while at FA(A)263, but why bother? It serves no purpose.


    When 'Eduard' published their paint scheme, it is entirely possible that they did not have this information - it is also possible that they just "plane" made a mistake; it certainly wouldn't be their first!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

  49. #249

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Helmut View Post
    Eduard's painting scheme is probably incorrect, at least in light of newer research; it was probably correct at time of going to press.

    The controversy over 1996/16 has continued for a while, but is starting to become clearer.

    It IS the same aircraft as flown by Hans-Georg Eduard "Eddie" Lubbert, and also by MvR after Lubbert's death. It was handed on to FA(A) 263 and still carries the same airframe number.
    Lubbert's own written description, along with those of other Jasta 11 pilots, confirm the yellow/blue scheme, but are inconclusive on the quartering.

    All the photos I am aware of show Rudolf Hoberg's machine from the port side only - there are none from the starboard side.

    My interpretation grew out of "The Blue Max Airmen" Volume #5, only published last year. It shows two photos of 1996/16, from the port side and, crucially, from the starboard side.
    At least, in the background of the second photo there is a plane displaying a horizontally-split fuselage colour scheme, but the "black" chrome yellow is below on the starboard side, not on top. This would mean that the yellow/blue segments were quartered, not a simple yellow-above/blue-below scheme.
    One of the other Jasta 11 pilots mentions a quartered scheme plane but, frustratingly, does not name the pilot.

    It is possible that there was a second horizontally-split paint scheme plane in Jasta 11, but there is no evidence for it, written, photographed or anecdotal.
    I assumed it to be so unlikely that I went with the most likely interpretation.

    It is, of course, possible that 1996/16 was repainted while at FA(A)263, but why bother? It serves no purpose.


    When 'Eduard' published their paint scheme, it is entirely possible that they did not have this information - it is also possible that they just "plane" made a mistake; it certainly wouldn't be their first!
    I registered for the Aerodrome site and looked at the reference photos which are the ones you mentioned above. Your interpretation is almost certainly the correct one. Although from reading the Jasta 23 and 30 books it seems that there was a fair bit of 'playing around' with paint schemes. However, if Hohberg had the plane repainted it would likely have been to something completely different.

    I may repaint but it would require repainting around 3 decals - crosses on tail and fuselage and serial number in wood on tail. I hate painting around decals and even more so with an assembled aircraft. I doubt I will use the Reviresco planes a lot as I find them too heavy for game play. I have a DH2 to do and will see how that goes but I doubt I will buy any more metal planes.

    ETA: I do expect it to niggle at me until I change it, so it's really a slow process of retreat and then...
    Last edited by ShadowDragon; 06-09-2019 at 06:42.

  50. #250

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    It was half blue & half yellow Paul but done in quarters - if you scroll up Tim has done one in post #224
    Fixed, Dave. It's now Lübbert's aeroplane.

Page 5 of 11 FirstFirst 1234567891011 LastLast


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •