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    Gary, those are gorgeous! Wonderful job!

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    Thanks very much for the kind comments, guys.

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    Hope we see them over the trenches soon Gary.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Hope we see them over the trenches soon Gary.
    They would have made an appearance in my last AAR but the scenario called for three different Entente planes. Hopefully they will appear in Mission 3.

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    Nothing for a year and then 3 flights in such a short time.

    Chris really like the Vampire plane, but I was always a big fan of the Hammer Dracula films when I was younger.

    Gary a great job on these planes from 29 squadron.

    Gary my Rep gun is jammed, how can that be.

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    Thanks, Gary -- we need a vampire emoji

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    Nieuport 17 Sottotenente Giannino Ancilotto 80a Squadriglia

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    Ares N17 Baracca

    Wings and Fuselage - GW Runefang Steel (touch ups where needed)
    Propeller and Struts - Foundry Chestnut 53a
    Circle and Star - Foundry Scarlet 38b and Valom White 70.951

    Decals - MiscMini

    These Ares Baracca models have quite a lot of defects, especially on the upper wings where the cabane struts are not fitted and leave two distinct holes.
    Couldn't find a suitable red circle or white star so ended up overpaitning a Italian red roundel and hand painting the star. Then noticed a post a few pages back from Camelbeagle that combined Russian and Japanese markings to produce a great result. May have to try that out but this will do in the meantime.

    This is the first of three Italian N17s on the painting board. The others will follow on in a day or two.

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    Nice!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hu Rhu View Post
    ..These Ares Baracca models have quite a lot of defects, especially on the upper wings where the cabane struts are not fitted and leave two distinct holes....
    Don't think it's a defect, Gary - they're for something (but don't ask me what!). Take a look at this pic, you can see them clearly on the top plane:

    https://ww1aviationheritagetrust.co....s-nieuport-17/

    Look a bit like FM straps in a car !

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Don't think it's a defect, Gary - they're for something (but don't ask me what!). Take a look at this pic, you can see them clearly on the top plane:
    Well you learn something every day!! Thanks for the info Dave.

    Just a pity that Ares didn't model the rings that fitted into those slots.

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    Nice! I always like a good Nieuport 17!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hu Rhu View Post
    Well you learn something every day!! Thanks for the info Dave.
    Just a pity that Ares didn't model the rings that fitted into those slots.
    Yeah we do !
    They're the Aileron cranks, according to a cutaway diagram I found - they are connected to the ailerons leading edge by 30mm Dural 'torque' tubes & transfer motion of the stick to actuate the ailerons; appears they may go around the rear spar, hence the ring shape.
    http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...1&postcount=11
    http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...61&postcount=7

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Nieuport 17 Caporale Attlilio Imolesi 79a Squadriglia

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    Ares N17 Baracca

    Fuselage, upper wings, tail and undercarriadge - GW Runefang Steel
    Lower wings - Foundry Bright Green 26a, Scarlet 38b and Vallejo White 70.951
    Propeller and Struts - Foundry Chestnut 53a
    Lewis Gun - Foundry Equipment Black 101a dry brushed with GW Leadbelcher
    Tyres - Equipment Black

    Decals - MiscMini and Aviationwings. Horse shoe decal from Aviationwings overpainted black with white spots added by gel pen

    This plane was one of the few N17s that was fitted with both a synchronised Vickers MG and an overwing Lewis gun on a Bowden mount.

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    Another bello Nieuport Gary.
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    I'm seeing double!

    Another corker!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Nieuport 17 - 80a Squadriglia - Maresciallo (sub-officer) Ernesto Cabruna

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    Ares N17 Baracca

    Fuselage, upper wings and tail - GW Runefang Steel
    Lower wings - Foundry Scarlet 38b, Bright Green 25a and Vallejo White 70.951
    Propeller and struts - Foundry Chestnut 53a

    Decals - Mismini

    80a Squadriglia insignia was apparently a red star on a white circle within a black border. However I couldn't find an image of Cabruna's N17 so instead I used the red heart and white circle taken from his SPAD VII when flying with 77 Squadriglia. If anyone has more infomation on his N17 I'd be very grateful.

    This is the last N17 (at least for a while) but I will be painting some more SPADS both VIIs and XIIIs.
    Last edited by Hu Rhu; 07-01-2022 at 06:24.

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    You're on a roll, Gary! Very nice

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    Another spiffy Italian. Well done Gary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hu Rhu View Post
    80a Squadriglia insignia was apparently a red star on a white circle within a black border. However I couldn't find an image of Cabruna's N17 so instead I used the red heart and white circle taken from his SPAD VII when flying with 77 Squadriglia. If anyone has more information on his N17 I'd be very grateful.
    From Italian Aces of World War I and their Aircraft, p. 449. (Gentilli, Iozza, and Varriale; Schiffer Military History)
    Profile 18: Nieuport 17, serial number unknown, maresc. Ernesto Cabruna, 80Ş Squadriglia, summer/autumn 1917: The caption of a photo describe[s] this aircraft as that of maresciallo Cabruna, while visiting his old reconnaissance unit, the 29Ş squadriglia, in Cavazzo Carnico. The Nieuport is a French-built aircraft, without serial number on the tail. On the fuselage is visible the Red Star, the unit badge. Only the Vickers gun shortage justify[sic] the use of the armament of the Lewis gun mounted over the top plane. Cabruna was transferred to 80Ş squadriglia in September or October 1917 and the photo was taken in this period, before the Italian retreat to the Piave.
    The picture shows a Nieuport 17 in white/silver with a solid red star (no border), normal rotation, about half way down the fuselage, no Vickers, top-wing Lewis, normal Italian underwing (red left), rudder green-white-red front to back. (The picture referred to is reproduced on p.149.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReducedAirFact View Post
    From Italian Aces of World War I and their Aircraft, p. 449. (Gentilli, Iozza, and Varriale; Schiffer Military History)

    The picture shows a Nieuport 17 in white/silver with a solid red star (no border), normal rotation, about half way down the fuselage, no Vickers, top-wing Lewis, normal Italian underwing (red left), rudder green-white-red front to back. (The picture referred to is reproduced on p.149.)
    Daryl thanks very much for the information. I'll get round to remodelling him and repainting in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hu Rhu View Post
    Daryl thanks very much for the information. I'll get round to remodelling him and repainting in the near future.
    I think your version looks just fine! You could consider doing a different N17 with the star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReducedAirFact View Post
    I think your version looks just fine! You could consider doing a different N17 with the star.
    Good idea, however I might re-model this machine into Sgt Cosimo Rizzotto who simply sported a red heart without the white circle.

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    Tremendous trio, Gary!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    rep guns jammed. nice nieuport gary!

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    Hello,

    here is my Nieuport 23 in Italian colours.

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    Items used:
    Shapeways model
    Humbrol Enamel No 1 as primer
    Humbrol Enamel No 53 for gun and engine
    Humbrol Enamel No 34 for fuselage and wings
    Humbrol Enamel No 101 and 153 for wingtips
    Humbrol Enamel No 110 for propeller
    Humbrol Enamel No 34, 153, 101 for rudder markings
    Revivesco decals
    Humbrol Varnish Gloss No 35 Spray
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    Sharp looking Nieuport Georg

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    Always good to see another Italian aircraft Georg.
    Time for a smidgeon of Rep I fancy.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Nice N.23, Georg. For the benefit of all please add model make, paints and decals used.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    Nice N.23, Georg. For the benefit of all please add model make, paints and decals used.
    Updated my post with appropriate information. Hope it helps.

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    Here are a couple of Czar Romanov Russian Empire Nieuport 23.

    Vallejo Aluminum on fuselage.
    Vallejo Black on tail.
    Vallejo White to paint out roundels.

    Roundels are Miscmini decals.
    Banner decal is home made.
    Skull and Bones on tail are Miscmini.
    Skull and Bones on top of plane are from the Nieuport 11 Valom kit.
    Roundel and Skull/Bones are two different Misc mini decals. I put the roundel down, then the skull and bones on top. Turned out real good,

    The first here is inspired by a Nieuport 11 scheme. I really like it, and thought it would look good on a Nieuport 23.

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    The second here is a scheme that I saw in one of the Russian Ace books that I have looked at. Turned out good as well.

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    Dan - perfect paint scheme for Halloween

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    Nice work, Dan.


    Sorry - REP used up on the Breguet.

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    Models: Reduced Aircraft Factory Nieuport 17 RFC versions - Lewis on Foster mount
    profiles: Nieuport Aces of World War 1, Franks, Osprey, 2000
    decals: miscmini roundels, Fullard stripe, and Bell-Irving, and all tail colors except Mannock; the rest homemade


    Capt Alan D. Bell-Irving, 60 Sqn, A272
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    Capt Philip Fullard, 1 Sqn, B3459
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    Lt A W B Miller, 29 Sqn, B1506
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    Capt Edward ‘Mick’ Mannock, 40 Sqn, Nieuport 23 B3607
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    Primed in NOW Aluminum, base coat 2:1 mix Vallejo model air Silver and Vallejo model color Silver Grey.
    struts: Vallejo model color Mahogany, Vallejo model air Gunmetal.
    engines: Citadel contrast paint Black Templar.
    props: Pro Acryl Light Umber.
    cockpit coaming: Vallejo mc Red Leather.
    skids: Vallejo mc German Camo Black Brown.
    tires: Pro Acryl Dark Neutral Grey.
    MG: Secret Weapon Miniatures Dark Iron.
    pilots: Vallejo mc English Uniform, Ger Camo Black Brown, Pro Acryl Light Umber.
    Mannock spinner: 50/50 mix Vallejo model color Yellow Ochre and AK Interactive 3rd Gen Radiant Yellow.
    Mannock tail: Vallejo mc Medium Blue, Vallejo game effects Rotten White, Vallejo mc Red.

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    Nice work as per usual, Chris.
    Run for your life - there are stupid people everywhere!

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    Another very well produced group of aircraft Chris.
    Rob.
    "Courage is the art of being the only one who knows you're scared to death."

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    Pretty!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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    Very nice triplet there, Chris. I like the hand carved snout, what a good idea.

    "He is wise who watches"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
    I like the hand carved snout, what a good idea.
    A very good point, well made!
    I laugh in the face of danger - then I hide until it goes away!

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