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Oberst Hajj
02-05-2010, 01:01
A new boxed set called Rain of Destruction will be released in the second half of this year. It will introduce into the game multi-engine bombers and heavy fighters such as the B-25 Mitchell, He.111 and Me.110, with all related rules.

We should see also see the Bomber Series 1 miniatures release this year with the Henkel He.111 and North American B-25 Mitchell, each in two different paint schemes.


http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Lucca_Games_2010/WowAnteprimaLucca/normal_IMG_8499.JPG

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Scans of some of the cards:

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Anteprime_Wings_of_war_2011/Rain_of_destruction/normal_RoD_Carta_003_Heinkel_HE_III_E-1_Carta.JPG

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http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Anteprime_Wings_of_war_2011/Rain_of_destruction/normal_RoD_Carta_002_Fiat_B.R.20_Cicogna_Carta.png

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Anteprime_Wings_of_war_2011/Rain_of_destruction/normal_RoD_Carta_001_Bristol_Beaufighter_MK_IF_%20Carta.JPG

nachinus
02-05-2010, 02:36
This is going to be an exciting year!!! :)

Tacbombers are fun and a great tool to add variety to scenarios.

Goberfish
02-05-2010, 02:58
Oh that's just super sweet.

I think I am going to be very poor for quite a while - Damn awesome addictive plane goodness.

Andre

Doug
02-06-2010, 03:12
That's real good news. I hope one of the B25's has the 75mm gun in the nose! Is the Me110 going to be a miniature or card?

Oberst Hajj
02-06-2010, 04:41
A card... at first at least. The first bomber to come out as miniatures will be the B-25 and the He111. They are calling them Series 1 Bombers, so hopefully they will make a Series 2 and more.

Gravitypool
02-06-2010, 04:42
Yay, i can't wait for this ^^

kaufschtick
02-10-2010, 22:03
A new boxed set called Rain of Destruction will be released in the second half of this year. It will introduce into the game multi-engine bombers and heavy fighters such as the B-25 Mitchell, He.111 and Me.110, with all related rules.

We should see also see the Bomber Series 1 miniatures release this year with the Henkel He.111 and North American B-25 Mitchell, each in two different paint schemes.

Whoa, great news! I just saw a thread about the WWI bombers hopefully coming out this year as minis...and now this!

Vacation in three days, and I've got more WWII planes lined up "on the ramp" ready to build.

Next week is going to be a good week!:)

PAV
02-25-2010, 02:30
We should see also see the Bomber Series 1 miniatures release this year with the Henkel He.111 and North American B-25 Mitchell, each in two different paint schemes.

From the Nexus Game site:
(ITA) "La prima serie di Bombers Packs, in arrivo quest’anno, introdurrà i modelli Henkel He.111 e B-25 Mitchell, in tre differenti colorazioni."

(EN) "The frist Bombers Pack serie, arriving this year, will introduce the Henkel He.111 and the B-25 Mitchell, in tree different paint schemas"

Source: http://www.nexusgames.com/read.asp?id=3568
Sorry but I didn't find the english one...

Have a nice Fly!

The Blue Baron
02-25-2010, 04:45
From the Nexus Game site:
(ITA) "La prima serie di Bombers Packs, in arrivo quest’anno, introdurrà i modelli Henkel He.111 e B-25 Mitchell, in tre differenti colorazioni."

(EN) "The frist Bombers Pack serie, arriving this year, will introduce the Henkel He.111 and the B-25 Mitchell, in tree different paint schemas"

Source: http://www.nexusgames.com/read.asp?id=3568
Sorry but I didn't find the english one...

Have a nice Fly!

@Col. Hajj: Can you ask Andrea which version is correct? I suppose the Italian one...

Naharaht
02-25-2010, 10:32
Furuta have produced a 1:200 scale Me110. They come ready painted and with two bombs.

sparty
02-25-2010, 21:03
Here's the press release from Nexus translated to English (roughly...)

The Wings of War series continues to grow during 2010 with many new features, both in dedicated lines to the First and Second World War that the lines of miniatures. NG International is working on several new products that come out during the current year.

For the period of the First World War, the publishing program for the first half of the set include "Flight of the Giants, who will introduce the first bombers, and two expansions: the booster packs Hit and Run, which will add to the game as new aircraft the SPAD VII el'Aviatik DI, and Crossfire, which will put into play new aircraft like the Bristol Fighter and the Rumpler C. IV-VII, with their respective decks maneuver.

The line of miniatures began 2010 with a new set coming in February, Balloon Busters, presenting a model of ball (Drachen Caquot/AE800) and a plane (Nieuport 16), in two different colors. This line will be expanded during the year with a series of bombers - Wings of War WWI Miniatures Bombers (Caproni cca.3 / Gotha GV, in two different colors), a Deluxe Edition revised, with four exclusive models and all that is needed to begin to play, and two new series of Airplane Packs. The fourth series of Wings of War WWI Miniatures SE5A present models, Pfalz D. III, Breguet XIV - Rumpler C. IV, in three different colors, and will arrive on the market in May, while the V-Series will introduce the aircraft Fokker E. III , Halberstadt D. III, Morane-Saulnier, Airco DH2, always in three different colors.

The new at the time of World War II include the set Rain of Destruction, which will introduce the game of the twin-engine bombers and fighters as heavy as the B-25 Mitchell, He.111 and Me.110, with all the relevant rules. This set is scheduled for release in the second half of the year. Are included in the program outputs four expansions: in spring, must arrive at the Squadron Packs The Last Biplanes (with planes Gloster Gladiator, Fiat CR 42 Falco) and Revolution in the Skies (Polikarpov I 16 and others) towards the end of 2010 Winds of Fire (Hurricane, Zero and other fighters of the Front Pacific) and Ground Attack (Ilyushhin II-2 Sturmovik and other dive bombers).

The line of miniatures War II will be expanded with the release of series II and III Airplane Packs, as well as a number of bombers. In spring, Wings of War Miniatures Series II will present the WWII Hawker Hurricane, Dewoitine D.520, Ju.87 Junkers "Stuka" and Aichi D3A1 Val, each in three different colors. The third series models add Curtiss P-40E Warhawk, Yakovlev Yak-1, Kawasaki Ki-61 and Reggiani Re.2001 Falco. The first set of Bombers Packs, arriving this year, will introduce the models Henkel He.111 and B-25 Mitchell, in three different colors.

PAV
02-26-2010, 02:33
Here is the english page from Nexus news:
http://www.wingsofwar.it/list.asp?op=set&language=en

I hope may helps you.

Have a nice fly!

nachinus
02-26-2010, 03:37
I can't wait to see the cards, decks and some insight on the rules.

Arendal
02-27-2010, 12:21
I would love the Fiat BR 20 as a mini...

Carl_Brisgamer
02-28-2010, 18:39
I would love the Fiat BR 20 as a mini...

Hi Arendal,

The Fiat BR.20 Cicogna would be a great choice. It was used in support of the Nationalists in the Spanish Civil War and the Japanese Army in China as well as by the Regia Aeronautica in WW2 against France in 1940, the Battle of Britain and in North Africa and the Med.

I would buy those three in a heartbeat.

Cheers,

Carl.

bsmith13
03-01-2010, 08:25
Wow! Look what happens when you are away from the site for a while! Great news!

afilter
03-02-2010, 11:21
Do we know if the bombers will be released as singles or part of a mini set like Baloon busters?

Oberst Hajj
03-02-2010, 11:32
Seeing how there are going to be a total of 6 minis out, I would think they would be singles.

afilter
03-05-2010, 06:47
Either way really looking forward to some actual WWII bombers. ;)

trumpetman52
04-10-2010, 17:28
I can hardly wait for the "Queen of the Skies" to be released. The B-17 is THE bomber.
trumpetman52

Doug
04-10-2010, 19:25
Tom I have to disagree with you on that point, for me the best American bomber which you could truly call 'Queen of the Sky's' would have to be the B29, now thats what I call a bomber!

Oberst Hajj
04-10-2010, 20:37
Sorry guys, I'm pretty sure we will not get either of those. I do not foresee us getting strategic heavy bombers.

Carl_Brisgamer
04-11-2010, 04:22
Do we know if the bombers will be released as singles or part of a mini set like Baloon busters?

Hi Aaron,

Based on the potential size of the miniatures I reckon they might come out as three pairs - that is three boxed sets each with one Heinkel He 111 and one North American B-25 Mitchell per box.

Cheers,

Carl.

Naharaht
04-11-2010, 08:17
It is more likely to be one bomber per box like the fighters but, of course, the boxes will have to be bigger.

What other bombers may we receive, a Betty?, a Blenheim?

trumpetman52
04-11-2010, 20:27
Col.
what do you classify as a stategic heavy bomber. they are already coming out with medium bombers.
trumpetman52

Naharaht
04-12-2010, 09:17
I imagine that a strategic heavy bomber will be 4 engined like the RAF's Lancasters, Halifaxes and Stirlings, the US B17 Flying Fortresses, B24 Liberators and B29 Superfortresses, the Russian Tupolev TB7, the Japanese Nakajima G8N1 Rensan and German Heinkel He177 with its twin 'double engines'.

Oberst Hajj
04-12-2010, 10:13
Yes, I'm thinking we will not see any 4 engine brutes :( I did talk to Andrea and he said the actual list of bombers coming out in Rain of Destruction has not been finalized yet. While that could keep our hopes up for some more cool bombers being added, it does not bode well for a sooner then later release date.

Propjockey53
04-20-2010, 08:34
I have many 1/144 kits of the He-111 ready. Glad to hear they will be released this year.

The Juggernaut
04-20-2010, 09:26
B-17 or B-29 would be awesome indeed, but I'm sure I'll be flying the hell out of that B-25 until then, if ever, and probably after getting ether of those planes in minis.

The WWII game is about to get a lot more interesting!

Bigman
04-20-2010, 10:50
A lancaster would be fantastic. my Gran used to make them!
Real ones I mean!
In the war not as a hobby that would be nuts:D

Roger Wilco
04-20-2010, 18:53
A lancaster would be nice, but the only problem with the large British bombers is that they mostly flew at night during bombing operations. The exceptions would be those that flew in the Asian theatres, by the RAAF etc where they flew in daylight.

Carl_Brisgamer
04-20-2010, 21:29
A lancaster would be fantastic. my Gran used to make them!
Real ones I mean!
In the war not as a hobby that would be nuts:D

Before the Avro Lancaster, which was a night bomber that entered service in 1942, at the end of the service of many aircraft in the DoWW2 game, I would rather see a Bristol Blenheim IV. It was the principle RAF day bomber from 1939-42, saw service in France in 1940, raids over the Channel in 1941-2 including Dieppe, North Africa, Malaya and Burma.

The Finns used them against the Russians as well, so you could have a RAF Blenheim (France 1940), a Finnish Blenheim (Russia 1941), and a Free French Blenheim (North Africa 1942) as your three aircraft set.

Beautiful looking aircraft.

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=103&pictureid=3423

Cheers,

Carl.

richard m schwab
04-30-2010, 20:28
Carl!

That is a very nice shot of a Blenheim. That would qualify as a light to medium bomber in my way of thinking. Along side the B-25, B-26 and the A-20>

Rich

csadn
04-30-2010, 22:58
I'd like a Bristol Beaufighter.

Fearnow
07-24-2010, 20:46
Mo-skeet-o!:D

At least thats what i'd love to see.;)

Naharaht
07-25-2010, 05:20
I would like a Bristol Beaufighter too but in its early form it was not a bomber. However, the firepower of the fighter version would be awesome CCCCBA.

krolik
07-25-2010, 08:47
I would like a Bristol Beaufighter too but in its early form it was not a bomber. However, the firepower of the fighter version would be awesome CCCCBA.

How about the Beaufort or Blenheim?

swarbs
07-25-2010, 09:11
I didn't see anyone mention a P-38 Lightning yet, but that's an aircraft that's too cool to leave out of a two-engine fighter set. I'm also really on board with Beaufort/Beaufighter or Blenhem or Mosquito, there are a bevy of great choices.

Yosser
08-09-2010, 19:10
Any news on a release date for this, I can't wait!!

rrodrick
08-09-2010, 23:30
Too many great airplanes:eek:

Oberst Hajj
08-10-2010, 07:03
This is not a multi-engine fighter expansion. The Bf 110 is in there, but not for the fighter aspect, but for it's fighter-bomber role. Also, unless Andrea is sneaking something past me (us), this set is still going to be limited to planes that have a top speed of less then 600 km/h. So no P-38 or Mosquito :(

ara398
08-13-2010, 05:38
Hi Keith,

do you happen to know if the B-25 is early war (B/C) or later (H/J)? There's quite a difference...

Regards,
Adrian

Oberst Hajj
08-13-2010, 08:04
Sorry, I sure don't. If I had to guess, there will be cards for both early and late war as neither version went over 600 kph speed wise. We have seen this with other planes like the P-40C and P-40F

Doug
08-26-2010, 02:37
Angilolillo do you know when this box set is due for release in Australia?

ara398
08-27-2010, 09:28
... and if there are any RAF Mitchell I/II cards in the set?

Regards,
Adrian

bumblie3
08-28-2010, 06:41
Nevertheless, I am quite sure I need a Blenheim, a Mosquito and a P-38 Lightning. Like.... NOW!
John. (stamping foot)

richard m schwab
08-29-2010, 05:50
John!

If you cannot wait go Max headroom's page and look at his photo section! He has a some nice custom cards. You should ask about a Blenheim, or maybe a Beaufighter!;)

Rich

P.S. here i cheated!:)


http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=122

bumblie3
08-29-2010, 08:19
John!

If you cannot wait go Max headroom's page and look at his photo section! He has a some nice custom cards. You should ask about a Blenheim, or maybe a Beaufighter!;)

Rich

P.S. here i cheated!:)


http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=122

Thanks for the link, Rich. Not sure Spongebob was actually flying in 1914-1918, although he might have been piloting submarines....

John.

richard m schwab
08-29-2010, 09:53
John!

You want sponge Bob on your wing. he soaks up enemy fire!:p he has done some nice planes! PM him about the Blenheim he came up with that Ju-88 overnight!:)


Rich

Oberst Hajj
08-29-2010, 10:15
Max is a great guy, but he does not always have internet access... so even though he sometimes gets things for people overnight, don't count on it. Not a slam on him in any way as his work is more then worth any wait!

richard m schwab
08-29-2010, 10:56
Keith!

I know but he dose great work!:)


Rich

swarbs
08-29-2010, 18:49
So I'm new to the process of eagerly awaiting a set coming out on-line here (more used to just fretting for news one my own). So is this inside info Col. Hajj or do you do us the service of pulling this info from press releases and stuff? Is there any more digging that could be done (I suppose it's no good pumping Andrea for info, I doubt that he memorizes release schedules for each of the world-wide distributors).

Oberst Hajj
08-29-2010, 19:39
Most of it is pulled from release info and other sources I've built up since opening the site. A lot of it is also figured out based on how FFG handles it's releases and pre-orders for retail shops. One of my best friends own the LGS and has inside connects that I can tap from time to time.

Andrea is not even in the loop on release schedules... he does find out a week or so in advance when the new products are hitting Italy, which he passes on here or to me in email.

swarbs
08-30-2010, 14:53
Thanks for keeping your fingers in so many pies. It's nice to have this info, better than waiting in the dark.

Oberst Hajj
08-30-2010, 19:14
Hummm, pie!

richard m schwab
08-31-2010, 13:48
Keith!

You are correct he dose great work!:) He saved my bacon with his JU-88 cards, for which i have thanked him many times!:)


Rich

trumpetman52
09-22-2010, 21:38
Does anyone have any idea of a release date for the Series 1 Bomber Miniatures?
trumpetman52

Oberst Hajj
09-22-2010, 22:41
Nope :(

g.paoletti
09-23-2010, 00:13
Waiting for bombers ...
Waiting for bombers ...
Waiting for bombers ...

... is there an official release date?!

G.

Polluxx66
09-24-2010, 23:02
Any idea of the cards that are going to be included this box?

I have already purchased my Air 200 Bf110 anticipating this release. And I have found various other 1/200 German Bombers and a Japanese Betty but I do not want to fly off the handle till I know if their cards will be included.

Oberst Hajj
09-24-2010, 23:45
We know the 110 will be in it. The first post is a quote from the Nexus press release.

Oberst Hajj
11-15-2010, 03:58
Updated photo in first post.

Doug
11-16-2010, 00:20
This I must have!

Padi
11-17-2010, 01:42
Wow, This is the official look of the box?

Maniac
11-17-2010, 05:50
Multi-engine? Heavy fighters? Irrespective on the Cols comments, this is the perfect set to have an early war P-38 show up.

swarbs
01-03-2011, 17:04
The box picture looks great, seems like about time that we hear about a release date. Has there really been no news? I can't find any with a google search or anything.

Naharaht
01-03-2011, 18:49
Will the Junkers Ju88 and the Dornier Do17 and Do 215 be in the box, so that we can refight the Battle of Britain?

Boney10
01-04-2011, 06:33
Hi chaps although primarily WW1 I do have the WW2 sets, few minis though. Has there been any mention of the Fairey Battle, Avro Anson, Boulton Paul Defiant or Westland Whirlwind coming as either cards or minis ?

swarbs
01-04-2011, 13:25
Hi chaps although primarily WW1 I do have the WW2 sets, few minis though. Has there been any mention of the Fairey Battle, Avro Anson, Boulton Paul Defiant or Westland Whirlwind coming as either cards or minis ?

I haven't seen mention of any of these aircraft specifically. I suppose a Whirlwind is a possibility in this 'multi-engine' set, but it hasn't yet been mentioned. The next two card booster packs are dive-bombers and a Far East themed one, and none of these aircraft seem to fit in either of those.

Naharaht
01-04-2011, 14:25
I do not think that these will be high priority aircraft.

csadn
01-04-2011, 15:29
Hi chaps although primarily WW1 I do have the WW2 sets, few minis though. Has there been any mention of the Fairey Battle, Avro Anson, Boulton Paul Defiant or Westland Whirlwind coming as either cards or minis ?

Well, for the first three, they will be including a bag of ashes.... >;)

Longstrider
01-09-2011, 06:23
Man, I hope this comes out sooner rather than later. I still prefer WWI, but I've been playing a bunch of WW2 lately and it'd be nice to add more stuff.

richard m schwab
01-09-2011, 09:07
Gents!

Like all good things, it will be worth the wait! I had hoped it would have been by now. I am running three games at a convention next month based on planes in ROD, silly me!!!

Rich

CappyTom
02-06-2011, 04:58
I can't believe its been almost a year sense this thread started. I must be getting close to a release date. Can't wait to get Rain of Destruction and the minis. Hopefully before Origins in June.

Oberst Hajj
02-06-2011, 07:56
Some new photos added to the first post.

Stormkahn
02-06-2011, 08:09
I can't get my head round why there's no offical communique coming through from Nexus? This is all hearsay, rumour and fan led.

hey ho,

Dave.

swarbs
02-06-2011, 14:20
Some new photos added to the first post.

Shouldn't those pics go in the WWII bomber mini's post? I thought this set was just cards.

edit - never mind, looks like they're both featured in this thread

Etairos
02-06-2011, 14:31
Nice, this may make me get this game as well. The 2nd mini shown in the opening post looks like a Bristol Beaufighter, or am I mistaken?

Stormkahn
02-06-2011, 15:10
Nice, this may make me get this game as well. The 2nd mini shown in the opening post looks like a Bristol Beaufighter, or am I mistaken?

That's what I think it is certainly :)

Judging by the rear fuselage length on the 110 I'd say it's a D or E type.

HardRock
02-07-2011, 01:13
WooHoo!! Nice looking pair! I can't wait.... well, I'll have too. And not holding my breath either.

richard m schwab
02-07-2011, 13:03
Back from the Williamsburg Muster! The subject of this expansion came up last weekend, several times! The vendors have never heard of it, or only re-release planes are the next product coming out. The WOW players were mentioning lower quality standards in new WW1 planes. You are right Henry, keep breathing!!!

cromojaro
02-07-2011, 23:35
The official NG International announces: http://www.wingsofwar.it/read.asp?id=3793

Stormkahn
02-08-2011, 00:09
The official NG International announces: http://www.wingsofwar.it/read.asp?id=3793


Well spotted Carlos!!

cheers,

Dave.

CappyTom
02-08-2011, 02:46
Good find Carlos. I hope its on the money.

cromojaro
02-08-2011, 07:52
It was just luck.

richard m schwab
02-08-2011, 13:53
Patience is still the word though!

pivole
02-12-2011, 04:15
I do hope they hurry up with this. Or at least the ground attack blister. I thought the Italians were meant to run on time?
Not to sound impatient.

richard m schwab
02-12-2011, 04:22
Laurence

That was the reputation!


Rich

Naharaht
02-12-2011, 09:31
Whatever date is announced, add six months to be on the safe side.

bumblie3
02-12-2011, 09:45
Oh, Nahrat - You Optimist!!
John.

pivole
02-12-2011, 10:00
It was expected latter half of last year, so I'll give them another four months. Then we'll rain destruction on them until we get the cards. Moderate destruction. Of non-fatal levels. And non-distracting from work either.

CappyTom
02-12-2011, 10:10
It was expected latter half of last year, so I'll give them another four months. Then we'll rain destruction on them until we get the cards. Moderate destruction. Of non-fatal levels. And non-distracting from work either.

So we'll say "Give us the game now or... we'll say give us the game again." That kind of raining destruction:mad::p
I'm for it.

bumblie3
02-12-2011, 10:14
With you all the way Tom - Unless something as important crops up....
John.

richard m schwab
02-12-2011, 12:45
John!

I would expect that the game will be out the day they have released the new tie in mini`s! You know what Douglas Addams thought about marketing guys!!!


Rich

Stormkahn
02-12-2011, 13:07
just enough time for another bath.....

pivole
02-12-2011, 13:19
Aye, captain. That sounds almost exactly like the plan.

richard m schwab
02-13-2011, 04:34
And a really hot cup of tea!

kaufschtick
02-14-2011, 07:46
It was expected latter half of last year, so I'll give them another four months. Then we'll rain destruction on them until we get the cards. Moderate destruction. Of non-fatal levels. And non-distracting from work either.

LOL! :D I'm with Pivole...moderate destruction, for the moment. :)

Other than that, I can't wait for all of this stuff to come out!:cool:

Propjockey53
02-14-2011, 08:52
Cant wait for Rain of Destruction!!!!!

Naharaht
02-14-2011, 13:18
Don't hold your breath, Propjockey.

Propjockey53
02-20-2011, 11:56
As an old Grognard wargamer I never hold my breath ......lest I pass out!

MayorJim
02-21-2011, 17:47
The prototypes look great! Will be a nice compliment to the fighters...whenever ;-)

richard m schwab
02-22-2011, 13:25
Jim!

I am just waiting for the box, 1:144 planes i have in abundance.:D If patience i a virtue, i am very virtues!:rolleyes:


Rich

Danrit
02-22-2011, 13:48
There IS a beaufighter in one of the pics next to the ME 110. What are those metal ones, early prototypes?

Naharaht
02-23-2011, 05:06
Looking at the second of Col. Hajj's photographs at the top of this thread, the other aircraft in the photograph with the Me110 is a Bristol Beaufighter. That is great! It looks like an early version because there is no rear firing machine gun, so no torpedo bombing yet.

Stormkahn
03-13-2011, 13:30
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/629709/help-with-pilots-please

Well, taking a wild stab in the dark it looks like BR.20, Do17E, Ki-45 are a jolly good bet.

Havn't managed to find out about 2nd Sqdn RAAF.

The Finnish one could be anything, according to Wiki they had 1 Do17 but they were largely Blenheim....

Interesting :)

richard m schwab
03-13-2011, 16:18
Dave!

That was my first thought yesterday, when i saw his post!

Rich

Stormkahn
03-14-2011, 08:25
I love this sort of thing, I learn so much by rooting around :)

2 Sqdrn flew Ansons ('37), Hudsons ('41), Beaufort ('43) and then Mitchells ('44), good stuff!

The Anson saw little use afaics and was largely deployed as a trainer which edges us in the direction of the Hudson which saw plenty of widespread use as did the Beaufort.

The beaufort is related to the Beaufighter which we know is in, the propects of them having the same handling and therefore the same deck pushes me in that direction.

Speculation is fun.
:)

Willy-dean
03-16-2011, 18:30
p-61!!! p-61!!! oooo !!! Oh and by the way I vote for a P-61 Black Widow!!!

Naharaht
03-16-2011, 18:58
The Avro Anson was used at the start of WW2 by RAF Coastal Command to carry out anti-U-boat patrols over the North Sea. They could carry a couple of depth charges.

CappyTom
03-17-2011, 02:22
The Avro Anson was used at the start of WW2 by RAF Coastal Command to carry out anti-U-boat patrols over the North Sea. They could carry a couple of depth charges.

Here's a clip of two of them landing together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp478Tgm5gg

Tom

Stormkahn
03-17-2011, 02:58
The Avro Anson was used at the start of WW2 by RAF Coastal Command to carry out anti-U-boat patrols over the North Sea. They could carry a couple of depth charges.

My hunch is that RoD doesn't include shipping rules so I'm expecting not to see a/c that filled that role heavily. They also like a/c that served in plenty of different theatres and with different forces.

Stormkahn
03-17-2011, 03:01
Here's a clip of two of them landing together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp478Tgm5gg

Tom

Crazy, love it!

MayorJim
03-18-2011, 13:27
William,

Welcome to the aerodrome...don't forget to post a note in the "reporting for duty" section...all the best...

Beldavi
03-27-2011, 15:56
I'm hoping for the types that fought the Battle of Britain and the Savoia-Marchetti SM.79. The US medium bombers (B-25, B-26) would be cool too.

Stormkahn
03-28-2011, 01:59
I'm hoping for the types that fought the Battle of Britain and the Savoia-Marchetti SM.79. The US medium bombers (B-25, B-26) would be cool too.

Welcome aboard Beldavi, please check out the reporting for duty thread, great to have you :)

The list so looks like;

He111
Bristol Beaufighter
Bf110
BR.20
Do17E
Ki-45
B25 Mitchell

Most sets thus far have had ~8 aircraft in them, there may be others but it's starting to look unlikely. I'd love the SM.79 to be included too.

cheers,

Dave.

Beldavi
03-30-2011, 11:25
I notice the boxed sets have roughly equal number of allied and axis types. My guess is that there is two more allied types in Rain of Destruction. The Blenheim seems likely to be one of those two.

Naharaht
03-30-2011, 19:12
It is amazing that the pilot was able to land those two Avro Ansons.

Tutur
04-03-2011, 06:57
Before July?!

thank you

Stormkahn
04-03-2011, 08:02
Before July?!

thank you

/pssst

Nobody said anything about year mate....

Diamondback
04-03-2011, 15:40
p-61!!! p-61!!! oooo !!! Oh and by the way I vote for a P-61 Black Widow!!!

Don't get your hopes up too hard--the one in my av is a "custom job" courtesy of Max Headroom and Col. Hajj.

Padi
04-09-2011, 05:36
On BoardGameGeek (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/94608/wings-of-war-rain-of-destruction) are descriptions and photos. We already know that the 8th plane will be Russian Pe-2.

Stormkahn
04-09-2011, 05:42
WOOOOO!!! Dance of Joy!!!


http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic950767_md.jpg

Padi
04-09-2011, 05:44
Here we see sample of bomber card
http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic950767_md.jpg

Naharaht
04-09-2011, 19:19
Are these official sample bomber cards or ones you have made, please?

Stormkahn
04-09-2011, 22:37
Are these official sample bomber cards or ones you have made, please?

Andrea put it up on BGG, they're prototypes only :) I'm easily excited lol :)

bleeder
04-12-2011, 20:47
Any idea on the scale for the cards? I've got to design a new hangar for all these bombers.

-Bri

Padi
04-12-2011, 21:57
Exactly. I use Deckcard sleeves. For fighters fit the European Mini. Which will be fit for the bombers?

Stormkahn
04-12-2011, 23:07
Any idea on the scale for the cards? I've got to design a new hangar for all these bombers.

-Bri

There's no info, but my guess, and it is a guess, is that they're standard size sideways, that way all the move decks are comparable.

cheers,

Dave.

richard m schwab
04-15-2011, 04:52
Brian!

You have asked asked the Million dollar question! They have to be the standard length and maybe twice the width!

Rich


P.S. We may find out some day!

Kaiser
04-15-2011, 11:27
Judging by "Flight of Giants" the cards fro the WWII bombers will be huge.

bleeder
04-16-2011, 18:50
What are the sizes of the FoG cards?

-Bri

Naharaht
04-17-2011, 10:19
What about the Douglas A20 Boston/Havoc; they were available at the start of the war; any chance that they might be included?

richard m schwab
04-17-2011, 11:05
David !

The wish list is endless!

Rich

Beldavi
04-17-2011, 20:28
Here we see sample of bomber card
http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic950767_md.jpg

I can see that the red and yellow dots donate the turrents. What are the blue dots for? :confused:

Stormkahn
04-17-2011, 22:55
We don't know what the blue dots are for :) Feel free to speculate!!

It's a prototype though so they may not have made it through, my guess is it's a target for other aircraft, why else have one on the tail?

cheers,

Dave.

Kaiser
04-18-2011, 03:05
The blue dot is the center of the card.
The yellow dot seems to be the MG below the Heinkel.
Strange is the ret dots fire arc of the center MG. IIRC it could only fire backwards. The fire arc on this card is to wide.

The bomber cards i FoG depend on the size of the aitrcraft. Small bombers are double the size but the big ones are as large as four cards.

MayorJim
05-01-2011, 11:36
The blue dot is the center of the card.
The yellow dot seems to be the MG below the Heinkel.
Strange is the ret dots fire arc of the center MG. IIRC it could only fire backwards. The fire arc on this card is to wide.

The bomber cards i FoG depend on the size of the aitrcraft. Small bombers are double the size but the big ones are as large as four cards.

Um...there's 2 blue dots on the pic showing in post #135?? so...2 "centers"???

Kaiser
05-01-2011, 11:55
The rear blue dot (instead of the center blue dot) is used to determining Tailing.

MayorJim
05-07-2011, 13:36
As an old Grognard wargamer I never hold my breath ......lest I pass out!

Um...I hope it's through the upper part of the body :D

jhary
05-07-2011, 14:50
I woud say Larger Airplane more target Points Its easier to Shoot down a Bomber then a Fighter

Oberst Hajj
06-11-2011, 02:31
I've updated the first post with the new painted prototype photos.

CappyTom
06-11-2011, 03:17
A new boxed set called Rain of Destruction will be released in the second half of this year. It will introduce into the game multi-engine bombers and heavy fighters such as the B-25 Mitchell, He.111 and Me.110, with all related rules.

We should see also see the Bomber Series 1 miniatures release this year with the Henkel He.111 and North American B-25 Mitchell, each in two different paint schemes.


http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Lucca_Games_2010/WowAnteprimaLucca/normal_IMG_8499.JPG

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Norimberga_2011/WingsOfWar/norimberga_IMG_1236.jpg

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Norimberga_2011/WingsOfWar/norimberga_IMG_1237.jpg

http://www.gioconomicon.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/max/Norimberga_2011/WingsOfWar/norimberga_IMG_1244.jpg

14407

14408

14409

14406

Sweet photos...just wish they were at the LGS. Maybe next month.
Tom

richard m schwab
06-11-2011, 03:42
Keith!

Was there a release date for the box or minis?:confused:

Rich

Oberst Hajj
06-11-2011, 04:06
At the start of the year, Nexus said June for the minis... but we all know that is not going to happen. My personal guess would be October :(

Doug
06-11-2011, 04:52
I want then now (arms crossed foot being stamped into the ground) Well I guess October will be ok then my children can buy them for me for my Birthday!

wargamer
06-11-2011, 21:16
At the start of the year, Nexus said June for the minis... but we all know that is not going to happen. My personal guess would be October :(

of which year sir?

jhary
06-15-2011, 08:31
Keith!

Was there a release date for the box or minis?:confused:

Rich

After oure experience with Nexus i woud say 30 February 2013:guns:

Padi
06-21-2011, 11:37
Another prototypes on boardgamegeek, this time we see a 2 miniatures
http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1011830_md.jpg
http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1011829_md.jpg

Boney10
06-21-2011, 11:56
Looking at the second of Col. Hajj's photographs at the top of this thread, the other aircraft in the photograph with the Me110 is a Bristol Beaufighter. That is great! It looks like an early version because there is no rear firing machine gun, so no torpedo bombing yet.

The Bristol with the rear Turret was the Bristol Beaufort, if it a Beaufighter then it should be a topedo version, or if I remember my airfix days some sort of gunbus or tankbuster. Unless of course someone else knows different. Im going back a few years now so any info is good eh

Rabbit 3
06-21-2011, 13:37
The Bristol with the rear Turret was the Bristol Beaufort, if it a Beaufighter then it should be a topedo version, or if I remember my airfix days some sort of gunbus or tankbuster. Unless of course someone else knows different. Im going back a few years now so any info is good eh
It`s definately a Beaufighter, a later model with a larger observers blister for a rear-firing gun and a tailplane with noticable diheadral.

HardRock
06-21-2011, 16:42
Now pushed back because of the seperation of FFG and Nexus.

http://www.nexusgames.com/read.asp?id=3839

Naharaht
06-21-2011, 17:39
It may speed things up long term, if one of the 'middle men' has been removed.

Stormkahn
06-21-2011, 22:55
It's nice to see things progressing but I'm honestly finding it hard to get over excited :surrender:

When I finally see a release date and the LGS has an order date I'll expend some energy :guns:

Boney10
06-22-2011, 04:12
For me just announcing another delay in putting out the goods. Nexus are deeply dissapointing in their marketing, in my humble opinion

richard m schwab
06-22-2011, 15:03
Dave!

Be thankful you still have a distributor in the UK!:brickwal: What is another years wait!:mad:

Rich

JackalWSU3
06-22-2011, 16:17
Dammit, just when I get my hopes up, they push it back. Bloody bloody hell...

Stormkahn
06-22-2011, 23:23
Rich!!
I'm sure some of us Limey's would be happy to ship them out to the colonies!! We can at least save you being gouged on S&H then (Me, Dom perhaps?)

:minis::salute:

Cheers,

Dave.

jhary
06-23-2011, 00:06
Dammit, just when I get my hopes up, they push it back. Bloody bloody hell...

Hey calm down think of youre blood presure.
and read this from nexus

I am a Wings of War player, where I can order Wings of War from?
Nothing will change for our players, except that we will try to improve the availability of certain core items which have been really difficult to find in the last year. Please ask your local retailer to be in touch with our sales team (ngsales[at]nexusgames.com) or with his preferred distributor if he has trouble about how to order!

And you can ask what is in Stock under the same Email addy.
I Learned its no good Business Behavior to blame youre Partners for Shortage of the Stock. And after some Storys i heard it was only Half true.

Kaiser
06-23-2011, 01:05
FAQ talks about reprints for Series I but what is with Series II? FokkerD.VIIs are as rare as hens teeth :(

jhary
06-23-2011, 05:34
i Think they will do and with a little luck they are in Treasure Storage like other things:medal:

P-51D
06-25-2011, 08:09
The Bombers have me excited I wonder what price point the miniatures will be at?

Diamondback
06-25-2011, 08:14
I'd guess probably $25-30 MSRP, if not a bit more, online maybe starting at $15-20.

P-51D
06-25-2011, 08:44
I'd prefer the 15 dollar online price point for my wallet, but I am willing tp pay about $20 each. I will want at least two of each model, and three of each for one model for each side. I probaly go with three of the Dolittle B-25s and three of the more traditional looking He-111.

Diamondback
06-25-2011, 08:55
I should point out my estimates are "low-balling", this is optimistic figures based on what I'd consider what I've seen of 'em actually worth. I know that gaming pieces tend to see markup above their actual value at MSRP...

P-51D
06-25-2011, 08:59
All I have to say is I will not be willing to pay the WWI Balloon Busters price. 50 bucks a pop is a major rip off IMHO. They look cool on the board, but don't do too much otherwise. The Bombers will be much of the same. Their guns are weak, they are going to be making bombing runs, so flying straight as an arrow, and fighters are going to be swarming around them either trying to knock them out of the sky or protect them. They will look amazing, but not 50 dollars amazing.

Diamondback
06-25-2011, 09:07
And Balloon Busters at least came with a fighter too, so you could buy a BB box and an AA ruler and have a solitaire Gasbag Whack almost right out of the box. I have trouble going above $50 for even a Deluxe Set, or $25 for a "basic card-game box"...

Tommy20
06-25-2011, 21:42
Anybody else disappointed in the He111 markings? The camo looks great, but it's marred by the three big white stripes. I'm sure it's historical, but not particularly common. Probably a squadron leader or something, but I couldn't find it in any of my references.

I would have much preferred a generic BoB unit ID, as I like to buy several models and make flights. Those markings will be difficult to alter.

kaufschtick
06-28-2011, 22:41
Anybody else disappointed in the He111 markings? The camo looks great, but it's marred by the three big white stripes. I'm sure it's historical, but not particularly common. Probably a squadron leader or something, but I couldn't find it in any of my references.

I have one in the three white stripes markings as well, this was a build and paint yourself deal from...the same folks who made the pre built & painted ones. I can't remember now, but it was the big bird series. They offered the same pre built & painted kits as a do-it-yourself kit. These first two I built and painted. The last one was the pre built, painted kit.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Axis%20Wings%20of%20War/144new005.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Axis%20Wings%20of%20War/144new004-2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Axis%20Wings%20of%20War/144new003-2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Axis%20Wings%20of%20War/144new002-2.jpg


Rich!!
I'm sure some of us Limey's would be happy to ship them out to the colonies!!

:minis::salute:

Cheers,

Dave.

God Bless the Queen!

:thumbsup:

Diamondback
06-28-2011, 22:48
Don't look too hard to paint out... but IIRC a "Stab" ("Staff"; squadron HQ) flight woulda had 3-6 planes, all plausible to have those stripes. I'm rusty on Luftwaffe ID markings though...

kaufschtick
06-28-2011, 23:01
The Bombers will be much of the same. Their guns are weak, they are going to be making bombing runs, so flying straight as an arrow, and fighters are going to be swarming around them either trying to knock them out of the sky or protect them.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/1-144%20Scale%20Planes/144new061-1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/1-144%20Scale%20Planes/144new062-1.jpg


They will look amazing, but not 50 dollars amazing.

A Men to that! The Sally's in the pics above, I picked up from E Bay for $3.33 USD apiece, with shipping it was around $18 USD; or less, if I remember that right.

These B-17Fs, I got for $5 USD each, and I believe it was just a tad over $21 for the three, again; like the above Sally's; with shipping; delivered to my door.:thumbsup:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Allied%20Wings%20of%20War/144Allies007.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Allied%20Wings%20of%20War/144Allies008.jpg

kaufschtick
06-28-2011, 23:11
Dave!

Be thankful you still have a distributor in the UK!:brickwal: What is another years wait!:mad:

Rich

My sentiments exactly!!!

Doug
06-29-2011, 03:02
Tommy I do not care what type of paint scheme they have, lets just do what we can to get them into the shops and we can discuss the paint scheme later.!

Tommy20
06-29-2011, 19:47
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. I'm a gamer, not a collector. I'm not about to buy models that I can't use just to encourage a company to make more models I can't use.

To me, the draw of the official line was not having to paint them. With a nice "generic" paint scheme (like the Falkowski Spitfire or Bader Hurricane), all I have to do is replace the markings. Any touchup painting I do is hidden by the decals. That Heinkel will take more effort than I care to put in to put together a flight. They made the same mistake with the Wildcats, which kept me from buying any of the PTO miniatures (including the Japanese, which they did right, IMO). If I was interested in painting airplanes, I would have gone the 1:144 route.

Oberst Hajj
06-30-2011, 00:01
Added some photos of official scans of the cards to the first post.

Doug
06-30-2011, 02:46
Card look good.

Shivaja
07-02-2011, 01:40
noob question here guys are the Rain of Destruction out or we still waiting for miracle:confused:

Oberst Hajj
07-02-2011, 01:57
Not yet. This set has been pushed back until some time in 2012.

richard m schwab
07-02-2011, 05:27
:cry:Groan!:cry:


Rich

Stormkahn
07-02-2011, 09:40
I'm struggling to find the reference now but my reading was WW1 Bombers and RoD would be out BEFORE 2012 not IN 2012.

I'll keep searching...

Stormkahn
07-02-2011, 09:42
Try http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gioconomicon.net%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D5931. The translation is suspect but does imply 2 major releases before years end, can somebody actually speak Italian actually shed a little light perhaps?

Cheers,

Dave.

jhary
07-02-2011, 17:46
Hm On the Home Page of nexus stands in July more infos about Releases. And Auguust WW2 Serial 3 and September reprint of the WW1 deluxe set

kaufschtick
07-02-2011, 21:03
:cry:Groan!:cry:


Rich

Me too! But I am way behind at the model table, so that gives me some time to try to regroup and get back after it!

With Wing Kits 6 & 7 having come out, the fire has re-lit in me to at least start buying planes again, and that, in turn has gotten me back to the modelling table.

I like the Wing Kit 7 P-40Es so much better than the Flames of War one piece P-40Es, that I may do away with the FoW ones, and replace them with Wing Kit ones.

I ordered US early war markings, as the Wing Kit P-40s come pre painted, but with only one upper wing insignia on them, which means they lend themselves nicely to being done as different versions than what they are advertised and sold as.

The P-40Es that they advertise as Aleutian Tigers, I think I will buy another pair and do them up like Robert Scotts "Old Exterminator", as they come all green, with the one upper wing insignia easily covered by one of the earlier war ones with the red dot in the center.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends076.jpg

Stormkahn
07-02-2011, 23:19
Me too! But I am way behind at the model table, so that gives me some time to try to regroup and get back after it!

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends076.jpg

Wow Rob, your skills really are coming along if that's what's rolling of the end of your modelling table!!!

:fixit::medal:

Jager
07-03-2011, 07:36
With Wing Kits 6 & 7 having come out, the fire has re-lit in me to at least start buying planes again, and that, in turn has gotten me back to the modelling table.

I like the Wing Kit 7 P-40Es so much better than the Flames of War one piece P-40Es, that I may do away with the FoW ones, and replace them with Wing Kit ones.

I ordered US early war markings, as the Wing Kit P-40s come pre painted, but with only one upper wing insignia on them, which means they lend themselves nicely to being done as different versions than what they are advertised and sold as.

The P-40Es that they advertise as Aleutian Tigers, I think I will buy another pair and do them up like Robert Scotts "Old Exterminator", as they come all green, with the one upper wing insignia easily covered by one of the earlier war ones with the red dot in the center.

[[/IMG]

Questions from ignorance: what are Wing Kits, and what scale are the FOW planes?
Karl

kaufschtick
07-03-2011, 21:55
Wow Rob, your skills really are coming along if that's what's rolling of the end of your modelling table!!!

:fixit::medal:

I wish! That P-40 taxi'd around, and then pulled right up to me at that show, I was in heaven!

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends111.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends114.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends115.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends116.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends117.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends118.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends120.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends124.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t163/kaufschtick/Mustang%20Legends/TheGatheringofMustangLegends127.jpg


Questions from ignorance: what are Wing Kits, and what scale are the FOW planes?
Karl

Well, I'm no expert either, but there is a company called F-Toys, I think it is, that makes these 1/144 scale, pre painted, and sometimes fairly already assembled (although the P-40s are a good bit of assembly required) WWII planes.

I'm guessing that in today's economy, if you're going to make something like this, it needs to make money, or your company won't be around long.

So, what F-Toys does, is they make what they call Wing Kit's, which they label Volume 1, volume 2 and so on. Each volume is usually three planes. They advertise them on the box, but you don't know what's in the box, kinda like baseball cards, to get you to buy more. Each plane will be advertised in at least two paint schemes (three mostly), but they also have another paint scheme for all the planes called a "special", that they don't advertise. So, you might get the A, B or C version of any one of the three planes shown on the box, or you may get one of the "special" paint schemes.

On E-Bay, they take the mystery out of the buy, and tell you which plane you're getting, and the paint scheme. Usually the 'specials' go for a higher price.

The models themselves are simply outstanding!:thumbsup: Hyper detailed for 1/144 scale, options for wheels down or up, clear canopies, pre-painted canopies, and now they are giving decals to do different planes for some of them.

The quality is very nearly on par with the Nexus WWI planes (and the same scale, BTW). They are easily converted to fit on WoW flight stands, with a little ingenuity.

The Flames of War planes come three to a box, and are mostly a one piece mold? I've only gotten the P-40 from them, as they had the only P-40Es on the market, until now. The planes were all one hunk of plastic, wheels up only, the canopy was not seperate and not clear. The only seperate part was the spinner, and it had no props on it. It was just a hunk of metal, you glued it on, and whammo! Start painting.

The detail in the mold was moderate, at best, although I've seen some advertised on E-Bay that had been painted by what looked like a professional, and were outstanding! I don't have that type of talent, and so mine came out just OK, but not what I was hoping for when I bought them.

Here, I paid just over $43 USD (including sales tax) for a box of three P-40Es. You do the math, they were pricey for what you get, IMHO.

I've averaged $7.50 & $3.00 shipping for the F-Toys P-40Es, delivered to my door! They are pre painted, have super decals, wheels down or up (your choice), props on the propeller, clear-pre painted canopy, and super detail. They smoke the FoW planes, no contest.

Rabbit 3
07-05-2011, 11:23
Anybody else disappointed in the He111 markings? The camo looks great, but it's marred by the three big white stripes. I'm sure it's historical, but not particularly common. Probably a squadron leader or something, but I couldn't find it in any of my references.

I would have much preferred a generic BoB unit ID, as I like to buy several models and make flights. Those markings will be difficult to alter.
The white stripes are formation markings commonly carried during the BoB but not much used outside that period.
For a BoB bomber flight, leave the white markings on and just change the plane`s individual ID letter.
The reason you don`t see them mentioned much is that they were temporary markings changed on an almost daily basis and few records were kept of the patterns used.
All we have now are a few photo`s of individual aircraft so there is plenty of scope for a bit of artistic license on these type markings.

jhary
07-05-2011, 11:52
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. I'm a gamer, not a collector. I'm not about to buy models that I can't use just to encourage a company to make more models I can't use.

To me, the draw of the official line was not having to paint them. With a nice "generic" paint scheme (like the Falkowski Spitfire or Bader Hurricane), all I have to do is replace the markings. Any touchup painting I do is hidden by the decals. That Heinkel will take more effort than I care to put in to put together a flight. They made the same mistake with the Wildcats, which kept me from buying any of the PTO miniatures (including the Japanese, which they did right, IMO). If I was interested in painting airplanes, I would have gone the 1:144 route.

Sorry Tommy but the german paint Schema is Correct the white Stripes where Standart. And its easy to cover the stripes. if you want.

Jager
07-05-2011, 13:09
I've averaged $7.50 & $3.00 shipping for the F-Toys P-40Es, delivered to my door! They are pre painted, have super decals, wheels down or up (your choice), props on the propeller, clear-pre painted canopy, and super detail. They smoke the FoW planes, no contest.

Ok, Wing Kits are F-toys. Them I know. Do you buy them E-Bay, or is there an on-line dealer. (Had a dealer at Origins, and some of us mostly cleaned him out of WW1, but I didn't look closely at his WW2).
Karl

flyingryno
08-12-2011, 23:06
WOW can't wait but I'll have to Mitchell's, Beau fighters. Are there rules for night fighters? I haven't seen any.

Tommy20
08-15-2011, 22:57
Sorry Tommy but the german paint Schema is Correct the white Stripes where Standart. And its easy to cover the stripes. if you want.BZZZTTT!!! Wrong answer, but thanks for playing!

(It helps to actually read the thread...)

flyingryno
08-16-2011, 00:02
Has anyone seen a list for the planes?

P-61, B-26?

I know B-25, B17,B-24, What else?

PanzerRanger
02-22-2012, 12:07
Were do I get this wounderful toys?

Nightbomber
02-22-2012, 12:24
Were do I get this wounderful toys?

Nowhere, so far, Fredrik. We are all waiting to get them. It's an uncertain future, I suppose. Herr Oberst will inform us here as soon as the box is published.

BobP
02-22-2012, 15:16
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This is the first time trying to attach a photo so hope it works. I was in the thread and saw comments about the He111. I hope this photo shows up. It is a command aircraft of the 3rd Group/Kampfgeschweder 53.

csadn
02-23-2012, 16:28
34691
This is the first time trying to attach a photo so hope it works. I was in the thread and saw comments about the He111. I hope this photo shows up. It is a command aircraft of the 3rd Group/Kampfgeschweder 53.

The irony being: From that angle it is impossible to see the stripes...

Marechallannes
02-23-2012, 17:20
The "vertical" stripes on the side rudder, look like one big stripe.;)

Have a look at kaufschtick's He111 models a few posts before.

BobP
02-23-2012, 17:25
True but you can read the A1+BA and the text says there are three stripes on the tail. I will see if I can do something to make the tail section stand out better. After all it is a 70 year old photo.

richard m schwab
02-23-2012, 18:53
I found this plate of A1+BA. Three stripes on the tail, the photo may have been retouched or censored!


Rich

Marechallannes
02-23-2012, 20:46
This stripe thing wasn't a good thing.

Remembers me on the flags on british commanding tanks in the desert war WW II, marking the first targets for the Acht-Acht.

David Manley
02-23-2012, 21:42
A bit like those big red, white or black numbers painted on the sides of tank turrets which identified exactly in the command structure the vehicle sat. At least in the case of pennants you'd need to be bloody close to be able to tell the difference between a command pennant and a regular tank pennant, and they did serve a vital purpose in a primitive "IFF" sense

csadn
02-24-2012, 13:46
A bit like those big red, white or black numbers painted on the sides of tank turrets which identified exactly in the command structure the vehicle sat. At least in the case of pennants you'd need to be bloody close to be able to tell the difference between a command pennant and a regular tank pennant, and they did serve a vital purpose in a primitive "IFF" sense

This is partly why WW2 US acft. had ID symbols which *didn't* exactly correspond to any known rank -- at most, some sort of shape on the tail to indicate which squadron, plus the ID lettering. (I recall seeing inter-war biplanes with different numbers of stripes between the upper-wing stars -- one for ordinary acft.; two for flight leaders; three for the squadron commander.)

Marechallannes
02-24-2012, 14:19
A bit like those big red, white or black numbers painted on the sides of tank turrets which identified exactly in the command structure the vehicle sat. At least in the case of pennants you'd need to be bloody close to be able to tell the difference between a command pennant and a regular tank pennant...

I know what you want to say - but there was a small pretty difference:;)

As a matter of fact, the spotters of Acht-Acht batterys had very good optical instruments to determine distance and type of a target.

...and there was nothing to compete with the firepower and range of Acht-Acht's in the desert war.:serious:

BobP
02-24-2012, 14:50
I have that photo in a book and thought it would be good to show. As someone said the angle makes it look like one big stripe. And as I stated before it is a 70 year old photo.

richard m schwab
02-25-2012, 10:44
Sven!

Early in the war it probably made sense, you know where the boss is flying if his tail is painted like that! It dose have that certain aim here quality about it!:guns::guns: There also are the wing markings! If the plates are a accurate some of dividing lines are narrow!

Rich

PanzerRanger
02-25-2012, 11:06
PanzerRanger wrote:
Are there any plans to release Wings of War: Rain of Destruction?

Best Regards
Fredrik Karlsson
Orebro, Sweden

Hello!

Not in that form, but the miniatures for B-25 and He.111 are ready for production and some special packs with them are due this year.

All the best!

Andrea

richard m schwab
02-25-2012, 11:30
Fredrik!

An interesting post! When did Andrea send you that?


Rich

PanzerRanger
02-25-2012, 12:28
Wedsday so hopefully thay are not to far away

richard m schwab
02-25-2012, 13:10
Fredrik!

I do 144 scale which makes this news a great disappointment to me!! I have 50 WW2 bombers waiting for some official rules! I was prepared to buy the boxed set with multiple plane cards. Not one plane at a time!


Rich

PanzerRanger
02-25-2012, 14:29
Well they do take their time making the aircraft thats for sure.... But for me its okey, since I have´nt tried out the bombing scenarios yet aldo Im very excited and Ill probably will buy a few bombers. Need more fighters to

csadn
02-25-2012, 15:19
...and there was nothing to compete with the firepower and range of Acht-Acht's in the desert war.:serious:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmford/6861134547/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beaufighter252sqn.jpg

The Allies had stuff to match the 88 -- it's just that most of it flew. :)

(This is one of the reason I rarely play WW2 armor games -- without the "air-tillery", the Allied player has zero chance of success.)

Marechallannes
02-25-2012, 17:06
:slysmile:



Well they do take their time making the aircraft thats for sure.... But for me its okey, since I have´nt tried out the bombing scenarios yet aldo Im very excited and Ill probably will buy a few bombers. Need more fighters to

I think it's more important to get first the rules for Rain of Destruction and official cards for the planes than those WW II bombers.

Oberst Hajj
02-25-2012, 23:44
I think Ares is shifting the alignment of Wings of Glory to be a miniatures game first, and a card game second (a sound business strategy). That means we can expect new rules like these to come out when the minis are ready as well. After all, we can't play with the minis if we don't have any rules for them.

They could do a release like the Balloon Busters sets. Were each bomber comes with a set of rules, but with the number of different bombers we are looking at getting, I don't think that is a very viable way to go.

David Manley
02-25-2012, 23:51
Didn't the last press release or posting from Ares at the Nuremberg show suggest that the bombers were not now coming with rules included? Or was that an oddity of Google translation? :)

http://gioconomicon.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6134

Oberst Hajj
02-26-2012, 00:09
I had not seen that yet. As it says, the bombers will not have the rules in them, which is what I was thinking, and that the rules for them will be in the WWII version of the Rules and Accessories Pack (which I bet will come out around the same time as the bomber minis).

PanzerRanger
02-26-2012, 00:48
:slysmile:




I think it's more important to get first the rules for Rain of Destruction and official cards for the planes than those WW II bombers.

Agreed =)

David Manley
02-26-2012, 01:04
I think I'm getting my WW1 and WW2 sets confused :)

Blackronin
02-26-2012, 03:58
I hope it rains soon! :)

BobP
02-26-2012, 16:00
Thanks for the post Raichard. Stripes are close to each other so explains why they look like one big one.

richard m schwab
02-26-2012, 16:19
Bob!

At the right angle and light it would appear a solid block!


Rich

Thomatchef
05-10-2012, 10:42
Still hoping on some rain...

Now WWI bombers are released they must give WWII fanatics their stuff :D

nillu
05-11-2012, 05:15
It's so cool for me that this new box are to be for the early perdiod of war, as it was in case of Dawn of Warl War II. Therefore there will be no 4-engine bombers as many of you wish. I really like this Beaufighter on the box. Can't wait!

grumpybear
05-11-2012, 05:40
Looking forward to all this new stuff, it has been a long time comming

Marechallannes
05-16-2012, 10:54
The two engine (medium) bombers are perfect for WoG gaming.

I want to see Beaufighters, Messerschmitts 110 and IL 2 Sturmoviks, too.

Maybe in addition a Messerschmitt 109 G (desert and eastern front camouflage)