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Oberst Hajj
11-15-2011, 02:13
Raffle sales are now closed!!

Our honored member and friend, Ken "The Cowman" Head, has found him self in need of our help and support.

As many of you know, Ken has multiple health issues that effect his daily life. These issue have recently placed him in a situation where he has to move on rather short notice.

Ken has always given freely help and advice here on the site and in the real world to anyone that needed it. He as always shown the utmost respect and comradeship to everyone one here at the Wings of War Aerodrome.

With the help of brelly (Paul) (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/member.php?819-brelly), I would like to take this time to help Ken out in return.

Paul has graciously donated his recent "Spirit of St. Nick" SPAD XI build to this cause.


Prize Sets

Set 1 Received by Wargamer
SPAD XI "Spirit of St. Nick"
Wings of War Barker Camel

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26453&stc=1&d=1321079471
http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26455&stc=1&d=1321079557

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/d9/99/11e85ffad01607f5125c5e32a822.jpg

Set 2 Selected by Attila57 and given back to Ken.
"Cowman" Camel card stock miniature

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27001&d=1321406853

Set 3 Received by Jager
Wings of War Bishop SE5a

http://www.planetongames.com/images/4bishop.jpg

Set 4 - Selected by Willi Von Klugermann
Custom painted Pfaltz D.III "Red Heart"

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27075&d=1321634055

Set 5 Won by Canuck
Custom Fokker Decals for:
Jacobs(Dr.1)
Jacobs (D7)
Loernzer (D7)
Menchenov (D7)
Buchner (D7)


Here is how this will work. I will hold an old fashion raffle for the two miniatures. For every $5 that you donate to the site, you will receive 1 raffle ticket. I have a whole roll of tickets and when I receive a donation, I will PM the member the number on the ticket. All tickets will go into a container and one of my step-daughters will draw the winning ticket. The winner will be contacted via PM for shipping information (shipping covered by Paul and I).

All of the donations that I receive during that time will be sent on to Ken to help him out with his move.

Important! When you make your donations, please Send me a PM stating how much you donated. This will help make sure everyone gets their medals. It may take me up to 24 hours to PM your raffle numbers to you, so please allow that amount of time before contacting me about them.

If any of the members in the US would also like to contribute a little more, please PM The Cowman (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/member.php?705-The-Cowman) for details on what household items you can send him.

Thanks to each and everyone of you that can help out!

Flying Officer Kyte
11-15-2011, 02:23
How do we mail our donations Herr Oberst?
Rob.

Oberst Hajj
11-15-2011, 02:26
If you are wanting to mail physical items to Ken, you should PM him for the details.

Nightbomber
11-15-2011, 02:54
I am repeating Rob's question, Ken...

The Cowman
11-15-2011, 05:24
Rob and Andrzej, I have sent you a PM.

Keith, from the bottom of my heart, Thank you so much! Santa looks awesome!!!

Marechallannes
11-15-2011, 06:23
One ticket for me...

Milk is tasty.:salute:

Tommy Z
11-15-2011, 07:52
Great Idea! I'm In!

Archidamus
11-15-2011, 08:08
I'm in too

flash
11-15-2011, 08:38
Count me in Herr Oberst - what a cracking good idea !

Nightbomber
11-15-2011, 08:48
Tickets bought:thumbsup:Ken.

Beer&pretzels
11-15-2011, 10:15
I'd like to buy raffle tickets. How do i do that?

Nightbomber
11-15-2011, 10:20
Just make a donation for the site and PM Herr Oberst that you are buying the tickets. Easy.

Beer&pretzels
11-15-2011, 10:26
Figured it out. tickets bought

Attila57
11-15-2011, 12:03
Donation signed.

Attilio

rote Flügel
11-15-2011, 12:41
what a great idea.. and I am a sucker for a raffle.. great planes to have in our barns.. heres to ya Ken..

TheValkyrie
11-15-2011, 12:45
Thank you all so much for helping out my Uncle Kenny (Ken)! He means the world to me, and I don't think I would be who I am without his influence and guidence. Seeing all of this support for him is wonderful. I don't think I could have joined a better gaming community.

~Jill

rote Flügel
11-15-2011, 12:50
Jill
we think your Uncle is a pretty awesome guy... and it is our pleasure to lend a hand where it's needed.. I must admit, I too am glad to be part of such a caring and giving group of people..

Guntruck
11-15-2011, 12:56
I'm in! :thumbsup:

Doug
11-15-2011, 13:50
To repeat others this is a good idea and I am in. Good luck Ken from the Queensland Flight.

Ravenlord
11-15-2011, 13:50
Hope I could help a little. :hmm:

Hals und Beinbruch Ken! :salute:

Matthias

IRM
11-15-2011, 14:00
Wonderful idea, glad to have the chance to help Ken out even a little. Donation sent.

grumpybear
11-15-2011, 16:45
Donation sent ,good luck Ken

The Cowman
11-15-2011, 17:31
With Keith's permission I would like to donate a third mini as a second prize for this raffle. I can't begin to properly thank those of you who have donated ... but very soon I will give it a go with words...

This mini was built for me by Getter1 (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/member.php?2133-Getter-1) a month or so ago and is one of the most unique in my collection, both for its "paint scheme" and for the fact that it is made COMPLETELY from paper. You can't tell.... but it is true. The man is amazing with Paper! See for yourself:

27002

27001

27000

26999

Oberst Hajj
11-15-2011, 18:44
Thanks for everyone's support! I've added two new prizes to the first post, so make sure to go back and check it out! Also, make sure to post about this on all your local and international gaming sites! Let's get the word out as much as we can!!

Willi Von Klugermann
11-15-2011, 19:08
It's a pleasure to help out Ken.

alpine
11-15-2011, 22:15
Donation sent! Quick question, does the raffle winner receive all 4 planes or will they be separated?

Oberst Hajj
11-15-2011, 23:39
As it stands now, the winner would get all 4 planes. If you guys prefer, we could separate them out to spread the love some more???

Attila57
11-16-2011, 00:02
I think you could separate them to spread to love some more. For example 1°-2°award (or 1° award) the exclusive custom minis ("Spirit of St. Nick" SPAD XI 2° award "Cowman" Camel) and 3°-4° (or 2°) award the other two minis.

But the raffle is a mere pretext.The award is to help Ken and we all will be winners participating. So, as you prefer.

Attilio

Oberst Hajj
11-16-2011, 00:13
LOL, I sort of want to win that Cowman Camel!

Burt
11-16-2011, 00:23
Maybe you could have 4 winners and allow the first ticket first choice, 2nd ticket second choice etc.

Burt
11-16-2011, 00:51
Donation sent
Burt

Jeff Cope
11-16-2011, 05:22
I'm not really in a financial place to make a donation right now, but I sent Ken a PM to see if there's anything I can do or contribute upon his arrival in Ohio.

Guntruck
11-16-2011, 05:30
Great to see so many people watching Ken's six :thumbsup::clap:

Attila57
11-16-2011, 12:20
Great to see so many people watching Ken's six :thumbsup::clap:

and I hope that they will rise again :takecover:

Jager
11-16-2011, 13:25
I'm in; have to keep those cows flying :)
Karl

Willi Von Klugermann
11-16-2011, 18:11
I think you could separate them to spread to love some more. For example 1°-2°award (or 1° award) the exclusive custom minis ("Spirit of St. Nick" SPAD XI 2° award "Cowman" Camel) and 3°-4° (or 2°) award the other two minis.

But the raffle is a mere pretext.The award is to help Ken and we all will be winners participating. So, as you prefer.

Attilio

Well said. My compliments.

The Cowman
11-16-2011, 18:16
I really have NO say in this... and am still completely humbled.... It was my intention to offer the Cowmel as a "second " prize... just thought I would mention. The Boss has the final say of course. I am gonna go back to being humbled...

Dwarflord22
11-16-2011, 18:31
It is an honor and privilege to be offered the opportunity to support The Cowman! :thumbsup:

Watchdog
11-17-2011, 00:54
I am in.:salute:

Niek_vD
11-17-2011, 02:10
Obviously with a St. Nick (nomen est omen) and a Cowmel (like that name - my daughter would love the plane) at stake I have to join in. All the best to Cowman!

Is there a plane card for the Cowmel?

Bluedevil
11-17-2011, 03:20
A lot of drops fill the ocean... just added mine :)

The Cowman
11-17-2011, 06:12
Obviously with a St. Nick (nomen est omen) and a Cowmel (like that name - my daughter would love the plane) at stake I have to join in. All the best to Cowman!

Is there a plane card for the Cowmel?

I will have to come up with one in the next couple of days.... Will take an overhead pic and create a card from that.

Oberst Hajj
11-17-2011, 06:20
Ken, I'll see if I can get Alan on this for you... should be a quick edit for him.

The Cowman
11-17-2011, 09:06
Ken, I'll see if I can get Alan on this for you... should be a quick edit for him.

Roger that and thanks... will look better too if he does it!

rote Flügel
11-17-2011, 09:39
makes my heart swell to see this outpouring of support.. and .. I too would love a Cowmel in my hanger... might have to see if I can build my own Cowmel.. lol.. I think it's a great idea to add to the prizes.. splitting them up to go the farthest..

crashx
11-17-2011, 17:06
Hi Col, I have a budget crunch right now and would love to donate!!! Is it possible to keep this raffle open until Nov 23, drawing on the 24th??? It would be an honor to have Ken's Cow Camel flying in our games, and an even bigger honor to help out a fellow pilot!!!!!! Either way, we are here to help Ken, and it makes me proud to see everyone chipping in!!!

Ed2
11-17-2011, 17:50
Caught me at a bad time, but I'll take two tickets.

Hope things work out well for you Ken.

Voss
11-17-2011, 20:15
Donation inbound!
Let me know if you need anything else Ken.

Voss

calfaber
11-17-2011, 22:19
I'm in for (2)

calfaber
11-17-2011, 22:26
I will donate a Wings of War Pfalz DIIIa Red Heart. It is currently on eBay for sale. I will custom a duplicate for the winner. Look under : calfaber
Or this link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/170727577889?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Will come with the Hahn cards in box as new.

Instead of the two tickets.

Niek_vD
11-18-2011, 01:51
Great job on the Pfalz, Calfaber!

Oberst Hajj
11-18-2011, 08:35
I've added yet another wonderful prize to the lineup thanks to a very kind calfaber! Check the first post!

J53_Badger
11-18-2011, 09:21
Can someone send me the details on how to donate. I would love to help anyway I can.. Thanks

Nightbomber
11-18-2011, 09:35
Just donate the side as usual and PM Herr Oberst how many tickets you want to buy. Easy.

Gaz67
11-18-2011, 09:41
A medal up for grabs you say? I'll have me one of them.

And luck Ken...

calfaber
11-18-2011, 11:17
How do I post a picture?

calfaber
11-18-2011, 11:25
I looked through inventory today and also want to donate to the cause is a set of professionally done fokker decals for Jacobs(Dr.1), Jacobs (D7). Loernzer (D7), Menchenov (D7), Buchner (D7). This will be one prize. I would post a picture if I knew how! Since these are limited edition production and not available anywhere, you might appreciate their value..lol

Oberst Hajj.... However you want to use them. With warm regards, Cal Faber

Willi Von Klugermann
11-18-2011, 12:33
Wow! Cal Faber repaints. Someone is going to be really pleased. For the uninformed some of Cal's work is grabbing 100+ USD on ebay.

BobP
11-18-2011, 13:19
As I scroll through a number of threads I notice a number of BOVINE medals. BRAVO to all helping someone they probally don't even know and being good people.

Rommel
11-18-2011, 13:41
Glad to help all the best with the mooooooooooooove
sorry Bovine reaction

gully_raker
11-18-2011, 14:22
:thumbsup: Donation made today for me ole mate Ken!
Hope we get a really big "Score" for him.

Keep Flying Ken!:hatsoff:

The Cowman
11-18-2011, 14:46
I am starting to become seriously overwhelmed at the support that is being offered. Pretty sure I am not worthy of it... Not sure how to put how I feel into words... but like I said before, I will give it a try after the raffle has ended. I just hope someone enjoys the Cowmel as much as I enjoy my Cow repaints... Getter1's work with paper is incredible...

CappyTom
11-18-2011, 15:13
Done. God Speed Ken.

Kubajs
11-18-2011, 15:30
Hope I could help a little too.

Boney10
11-18-2011, 16:55
Been on a course and not had full access to the site so only saw this a couple of hours ago, donation sent , Ken hope things go ok for you

J53_Badger
11-18-2011, 19:40
Donation sent! Keep your chin up mate!

berthier
11-18-2011, 21:06
Ken,
And a little from me to help the cause. Trust we will see you moved, settled and well soon!

Wolfbiter
11-19-2011, 07:59
Though I have been on a long, loooong furlough from the site, I gladly return to offer a bit of help to the Cowman!

MrMark
11-19-2011, 14:04
Great idea, great community, I am in.

ara398
11-19-2011, 16:35
Absolutely capital idea Keith!

Count me in!

Adrian

crashx
11-20-2011, 02:08
Good luck Ken!!! One donation sent!!!

wjw
11-20-2011, 14:59
Two tickets for me and good luck to Ken.

jbmacek
11-20-2011, 15:58
My wallet isn't on me at the moment, but I'll join in tomorrow morning.

jbudz922
11-21-2011, 08:23
Herr Oberst

I hope I did it right. Put me down for 2.

Jack

pflanzer
11-21-2011, 15:07
Late PM sent. Hang in there Ken. Just read this post.
Tony

The Cowman
11-21-2011, 15:30
Late PM sent. Hang in there Ken. Just read this post.
Tony
Read the above post but did not see any PMs from you... do I have it confused?

pflanzer
11-21-2011, 15:55
OK Ken,
I sent the Col a PM as I made a donation. I am not trying to slight you. So go check your PM box I sent you one.
Tongue in cheek of course.
Tony

Oberst Hajj
11-22-2011, 02:39
Raffle sales are closed!


I would like to personally thank everyone that stepped up to help The Cowman out. The amount of support from you guys has been overwhelming! It makes me very proud to have built a community that can come together like this for one of its members.

You guys are all Aces to me!

Oberst Hajj
11-22-2011, 02:40
Important!

With all of the extra prizes that were donated to this event, I have decided to make it so that more people have a chance to win prizes. The original two prizes will still be given away as a set like first announced. All of the additional prizes will each be drawn for individually. I will draw one ticket and that person can choose any of the prizes they like. Once they have selected their prize, I will draw another and that winner can pick from any of the remaining prize. I'll keep doing this until all the prizes have been give out. I will update the first post to show the "prize sets" to make it easier for the winners to pick.

Zoe Brain
11-22-2011, 02:58
I am starting to become seriously overwhelmed at the support that is being offered. Pretty sure I am not worthy of it...
And that's just one of the reasons why we know you are, and more.

Just ask that niece of yours.

CappyTom
11-22-2011, 03:05
If I win give mine to Ken as a house warming gift.
:drinks:
Tom

Nightbomber
11-22-2011, 06:40
If I win give mine to Ken as a house warming gift.
:drinks:
Tom

Yeah, I second that. I wouldn't dare to fly the Cowmel either. It's Ken's kite.

The Cowman
11-22-2011, 06:50
The point is to flood the skies with cow spots... intimidation by numbers...

Flying Officer Kyte
11-22-2011, 07:01
If I win it I want it. It must be photographed flying one sortie over this side of the pond. Then I will ship it back to Ken for a complete refit before he flys it again.:camel:
Rob.

Oberst Hajj
11-22-2011, 09:20
And the first winner is....

Willi Von Klugermann!!

Nightbomber
11-22-2011, 09:37
Congrats Willi!

Burt
11-22-2011, 09:49
Well done Willi:)

Marechallannes
11-22-2011, 10:46
1:0 for Central Powers!:clap:

Three cheers for Willi!

Flying Officer Kyte
11-22-2011, 12:44
Well done Chris. Calls for a bottle of your favourite tipple I fancy.:FOK:
Kyte.

CappyTom
11-22-2011, 13:34
Well done Chris. Cheers
:pint:
Tom

The Cowman
11-22-2011, 14:08
Congrats Willi and Thanks for buying tickets! Can't wait to see what Willi picks!

gully_raker
11-22-2011, 14:25
:thumbsup: Yeah! well done Willie! That will show that Stachel!:cheezy:
Break out the 1903 Dom!:drinks:

Raege
11-22-2011, 18:08
Grats Willi Now the tough part picking out a prize since they are all very cool indeed

Willi Von Klugermann
11-22-2011, 19:25
Totally shocked. I never won anything in a raffle before (not even a bridge to fly under). Ken, your Cowmel is safe (for the time being).



http://blue-max-triplane.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/birdge.jpg




I'll choose the Pfalz Red Heart. Christmas come to NJ a little early.

The Cowman
11-22-2011, 19:46
LOL!!!! Good Choice... and the Cowmel is there for the taking! I am not going to be hurt if someone keeps it. That was the point! ;)

Willi Von Klugermann
11-22-2011, 19:58
:thumbsup: Yeah! well done Willie! That will show that Stachel!:cheezy:
Break out the 1903 Dom!:drinks:


The 1903 is out and flowing, Come join me in the O Club.



Wow! Cal Faber repaints. Someone is going to be really pleased.

Prophetic.

Tommy Z
11-22-2011, 20:28
Congrats!...I was drooling over that Pfalz also! :thumbsup:

Attila57
11-22-2011, 21:02
Congrats Chris!!! :pint:

Attilio

Ed2
11-22-2011, 21:29
Congratulations Chris.:pint:
One more Pfalz flying for the Kaiser.

Oberst Hajj
11-22-2011, 23:04
And the next winner is:

Wargamer

Oberst Hajj
11-22-2011, 23:27
Wargamer has selected set 1 for his prize!

Oberst Hajj
11-22-2011, 23:33
Our third winner is Attila57!

Flying Officer Kyte
11-22-2011, 23:52
And the next winner is:

Wargamer

Well done Al.
Rob.

Flying Officer Kyte
11-22-2011, 23:53
Our third winner is Attila57!

Congratulations Attilio.
Rob.

Attila57
11-23-2011, 01:41
:confused::eek:;)

Thx! Great news!

I select number 2 - "Cowman" Camel card stock miniature

But, Keith, I wish that this wonderful miniature remains a Ken's ownership as a remambrance of the high opinion and brotherly love of all of us.

My reward was to be able to help Ken, thanks to your initiative! I would have won anyway


Attilio

Oberst Hajj
11-23-2011, 01:47
Attilio, well played sir!

Oberst Hajj
11-23-2011, 02:07
Our forth winner is Jager!

Doug
11-23-2011, 02:18
Well done to all winners and Ken!

Flying Officer Kyte
11-23-2011, 02:20
Our forth winner is Jager!

Well done Karl.
Rob.
Yes well done that man. To the bar.
Kyte.

CappyTom
11-23-2011, 02:31
Well done to all the winners and its an honor to be friends with you guys. Some good was done.

To the bar...:pint:
Tom

Bluedevil
11-23-2011, 02:52
:confused::eek:;)

Thx! Great news!

I select number 2 - "Cowman" Camel card stock miniature

But, Keith, I wish that this wonderful miniature remains a Ken's ownership as a remambrance of the high opinion and brotherly love of all of us.

My reward was to be able to help Ken, thanks to your initiative! I would have won anyway


Attilio

Attilio... I'm honoured to be on the same forum with you Sir...Respect!:salute::salute::salute:



and of course a big congratulations to the winners!:)

Canuck
11-23-2011, 03:07
:salute::salute::salute::salute:

Outstanding gents! Congrats to all.

brelly
11-23-2011, 03:39
Congratulations to all the winners and a big pat on the back to the community as a whole for stepping up for Ken.

Wargamer, if you can send me a PM with you postal address I will post off St Nick. Hopefully it will arrive before the man himself.

Paul

jbmacek
11-23-2011, 04:15
Hurrah! I'd say congratulations to the winners, but I believe we all won something.

Guntruck
11-23-2011, 05:46
Well done all the winners! :thumbsup::pint::clap:

Nightbomber
11-23-2011, 06:15
Great site, great people:thumbsup: Congrats to the winners! The bar awaits, gents & ladies:D

Jure
11-23-2011, 08:23
Congratulations to all the winners and all the best to Ken.
Now, where's that bar? Cheers! :drinks:

Jure

The Cowman
11-23-2011, 11:19
Congratulations to all the winners! Attilio thank you for the gesture! Down the line after I get settled I will see about personalizing a plane just for you!

Jager
11-23-2011, 11:42
Our forth winner is Jager!

Congrtaulations to those who came before me.
Thanks muchly for those who donated.
I'll choose set 3. I have a cunning plan for an SE-5a ;)

Karl

Attila57
11-23-2011, 11:58
Congratulations to all the winners! Attilio thank you for the gesture! Down the line after I get settled I will see about personalizing a plane just for you!

Don't worry Ken! Your friendship and your health are more important for me than any miniature

Take care!

Attilio

Attila57
11-23-2011, 12:02
Attilio... I'm honoured to be on the same forum with you Sir...Respect!:salute::salute::salute:

:confused:

I'm honoured to be on the same forum with you and all of us

:salute:

Attilio

pflanzer
11-23-2011, 18:26
This is fine group of individuals. People from around the world comming to the assistance of someone in need. I for one am proud to be associated with such a group.
Thanks to all
Tony

alpine
11-23-2011, 22:00
Although I have to say I am upset I didn't win any custom minis, I am one of the many walking away with the true prize; helping a fellow pilot out! Congrats to the winners!

Boney10
11-23-2011, 22:24
Congrats to all , now to the mess chaps :)

The Cowman
11-23-2011, 22:27
I'm buying the digital drinks with my digital fortune... come take advantage!!!!

Oberst Hajj
11-23-2011, 23:01
Our fifth and final winner is Canuck!

The Cowman
11-23-2011, 23:52
Way to go Paul!

Niek_vD
11-24-2011, 00:25
Congratulations to all winners!

Handsome gesture, Attillo!

I hope to see the Cowmel card though.

Oberst Hajj
11-24-2011, 00:44
I hope to see the Cowmel card though.

They are located here. (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=531)

Canuck
11-24-2011, 03:47
Thanks very much for the custom decals, I just picked up some of the $5 specials at FFG, as posted in the for sale section, to use the decals on, lol.

I am proud to be part of such a supportive community. Congratulations Ken, there are few online communities with friends like the gents.

CappyTom
11-24-2011, 05:30
Our fifth and final winner is Canuck!

You lucky git.;) Just wait till I see you in the air next time...

Congrats :thumbsup:
Tom

Guntruck
11-24-2011, 06:03
Congrtaulations to those who came before me.
Thanks muchly for those who donated.
I'll choose set 3. I have a cunning plan for an SE-5a ;)

Karl
Well done Karl. I'll stick it in the mail at the weekend for you.

Dwarflord22
11-24-2011, 07:37
Congratulations to all the raffle winners :clap:

The Cowman
11-24-2011, 09:20
Thanks very much for the custom decals, I just picked up some of the $5 specials at FFG, as posted in the for sale section, to use the decals on, lol.

I am proud to be part of such a supportive community. Congratulations Ken, there are few online communities with friends like the gents.

Thanks Paul... Thanks again to everyone!

Flying Officer Kyte
11-24-2011, 12:18
Well done Paul.Now all the excitement is over:sleep: I guess it's back to the bar then.:FOK:
Kyte.

gully_raker
11-24-2011, 16:35
:thumbsup: Yes Congratulations to all our worthy Winners & to all who contributed to the Cowman Fund!:salute::clap::clap::clap:

The Cowman
11-24-2011, 19:33
Well done Paul.Now all the excitement is over:sleep: I guess it's back to the bar then.:FOK:
Kyte.

Oh.My.Gosh. What a terrible problem for us to have... exiled... to the bar... for lack of excitement... whatever shall we do???? ;)

rote Flügel
11-24-2011, 20:02
Raise our glasses and toast our comrade .. the Cowman... to his health... and safe trip when the time comes.. hip hip.... huzzah

The Cowman
11-24-2011, 20:27
Thanks... the time is coming soon and the trip will be short this time around... perhaps much longer in about one year... but ti is what fate has led me to and will be for the best! So here is to a happy new apartment, with lots of room for gaming!

Niek_vD
11-25-2011, 01:54
They are located here. (http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/album.php?albumid=531)

Colonel, thanks!