For sale: Zeppelins, Staakens, Gothas, Caproni's Oh My!

[clipper1801]

Yes kids, its true. I have a hanger full of strange crates I have built on rampages of late nights and blurry days, in my madness I cannot build just one, but now in 5's and 12's. I would like to share my madness with the world. As supplies last, and repeat builds and custom builds and colors are possible by popular demand.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-09-30_13-23-44_483-1.jpg
Caproni Ca 4

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-09-28_20-24-49_979.jpg
Felixstowes

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-09-17_15-19-29_286.jpg
Sraakens

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-08-26_20-17-58_971.jpg
Zeppelins

And more . . .
Email me at dhaught042@aol.com for an info sheet with details, prices etc. All models are scratch built of bass wood, styrene and metal, made to play, made to enjoy!

[lochmoigh]

Sent you a message through email

[Ranger]

E-mail sent!

[usmc1855]

Damn... some one already called 'Dibs" on some of these.... I hope you have additional Staakens. E-mail sent.

I know it may be premature, and asking too much, but have you ever thought about making any Handley Page 0-400s? If you do, reserve three for me.

[lochmoigh]

where are you at Brian? East TN?

[usmc1855]

I'm in Nashville.

[Hunter]

Yes kids, its true. I have a hanger full of strange crates I have built on rampages of late nights and blurry days, in my madness I cannot build just one, but now in 5's and 12's. I would like to share my madness with the world. As supplies last, and repeat builds and custom builds and colors are possible by popular demand.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-09-30_13-23-44_483-1.jpg
Caproni Ca 4

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-09-28_20-24-49_979.jpg
Felixstowes

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-09-17_15-19-29_286.jpg
Sraakens

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h379/Revchaos/2011-08-26_20-17-58_971.jpg
Zeppelins

And more . . .
Email me at dhaught042@aol.com for an info sheet with details, prices etc. All models are scratch built of bass wood, styrene and metal, made to play, made to enjoy!

Dave...don't you dare sell my FELIXSTOWE!!!

[Diamondback]

Email sent with request and some ideas...

[Flying Officer Kyte]

E-mail sent,likewise.
Rob.

[Super Handley]

Did the email thing too.

[lochmoigh]

Any one heard back?

[Ranger]

Nope. I just figured he was swamped with e-mails.

[The Cowman]

I was kinda looking at that stack of what appears to be chocolate chip cookies in the background of the last pic (with the Zeps)... Now I am hungry...

[clipper1801]

Swamppppppeeeedddddd indddddddeeeeeed! Just sent out 75 emails! Some of you guys did not send me your email and I have not figured out how to add a pdf attachment to a pm : ) Check what you sent me and see if you are one of the lucky ones, send it again! And wow! I will be engaging my son and crew to get them all built! Thanks!
Dave

[Tommy Z]

I was kinda looking at that stack of what appears to be chocolate chip cookies in the background of the last pic (with the Zeps)... Now I am hungry...

Great now I want a cookie too!:envy:

Got your e-mail David...Zeps look awesome! Might have to buy myself an early Christmas present! Don't worry Ken I'll let you shoot at it! :thumbsup:

[Ranger]

Got it! What are the actual dimentions for the Zep?

[clipper1801]

The L-11 is a type P zeppelin which makes it 29.9" at 1/214 scale, just right for playing on a table top. Here's why: If you build a type P zeppelin at 1/144 scale it comes out to be 46" long-very awkward and hard to move let alone turn on a 48" game table. Second reason is the gun arc range on Wings of War is not to scale. If you use their arcs there are huge gaps in gun coverage, making the ship very vulnerable. In my research i ran across a diagram from the actual flight manual for the zeppelins which shows no gaps at all. Using 1/214 scale makes the gun range of the game work and still makes for a nice size zeppelin which is close to the right size visually and using the XD deck it maneuvers nicely.. That's why. In our play testing we found the size to be just right. TMI?
Dave

[Ranger]

The L-11 is a type P zeppelin which makes it 29.9" at 1/214 scale, just right for playing on a table top. Here's why: If you build a type P zeppelin at 1/144 scale it comes out to be 46" long-very awkward and hard to move let alone turn on a 48" game table. Second reason is the gun arc range on Wings of War is not to scale. If you use their arcs there are huge gaps in gun coverage, making the ship very vulnerable. In my research i ran across a diagram from the actual flight manual for the zeppelins which shows no gaps at all. Using 1/214 scale makes the gun range of the game work and still makes for a nice size zeppelin which is close to the right size visually and using the XD deck it maneuvers nicely.. That's why. In our play testing we found the size to be just right. TMI?
Dave

Well, more than I asked, but definately not too much!

I was thinking of picking up one of the Zeppelins to use for a convention game. I am thinking of an 8 player game, with 6 attackers (three Camels, one SE 5a, and two 2 seaters), 2 defenders (1 Dr. I and 1 Pfalz D III), and I would run the Zep using the random movement rules from FTOG.

Based on your experience, how long would a game like that take using the WOW game mats, with the Zeps goal of just getting from one end of the mats to the other?

Or would you suggest a longer and wider space than the standard game mats?

[clipper1801]

We have been blessed with a 4' x 8' matt, (I would suggest 4 std matts) which is way cool! Zeppelin flights are normally bombing missions so to one end and back is typical. Movement cards from the deck make it a long and arduous journey, that is where escorts and limited ammo help. Time wise plan 2 hours if all are on task. Watch the swing of that big zeppelin as she moves, collisions can be devastating! Look into altitude ceilings as well, some fighters cannot get high enough : ) As you can see the game takes a very different tack now, very fun and surprising!! Make sure you read the "Zeppelin Attack" thread, Keegan did an outstanding job! Thanks to all.
-clipper

[Tommy Z]

Well, more than I asked, but definately not too much!

I was thinking of picking up one of the Zeppelins to use for a convention game. I am thinking of an 8 player game, with 6 attackers (three Camels, one SE 5a, and two 2 seaters), 2 defenders (1 Dr. I and 1 Pfalz D III), and I would run the Zep using the random movement rules from FTOG.

Based on your experience, how long would a game like that take using the WOW game mats, with the Zeps goal of just getting from one end of the mats to the other?

Or would you suggest a longer and wider space than the standard game mats?

The Colonel ran a Zeppelin game at Origins this year. Here is a link to the discussion & after action review:

http://www.wingsofwar.org/forums/showthread.php?5302-Zeppelin-over-Ohio

I think your setup sounds good. In his event the Zeppelin didn't actually move, this fight just took place around it. Given the amount of new players it was easier to just assume everyone maintained a relative position.

[Zoe Brain]

A possible scenario....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2PkY3zSuw4

[Ranger]

Thanks for the link to the Zeppelin AAR thread. I've been catching up on the rules thread that was posted after the event, but forgot about the actual AAR.

Ok, I'll stop hijacking this thread and start a new one about my scenario ideas.

[clipper1801]

So how many are serious about the type R zeppelin? I could stretch my fixtures and drop the axis . . . 44.7" of zeppelin joy? The new build will also include L-9, L-10, L11 and L-12, same ships, different colors and markings for variety. Any takers?

-clipper

[Flying Officer Kyte]

So how many are serious about the type R zeppelin? I could stretch my fixtures and drop the axis . . . 44.7" of zeppelin joy? The new build will also include L-9, L-10, L11 and L-12, same ships, different colors and markings for variety. Any takers?

-clipper

Do you have a price on these David. It may be easier for the chaps to decide if that is firmed up.
Rob.

[Willi Von Klugermann]

Just saw these David. That is some amazing stuff. My compliments.

[clipper1801]

The "super Zeps" would run the same price, a bit longer and four gondolas. Shipping might increase, but that is expected! I could add more hydrogen to them and they would weigh less . . . .

clipper

[Hunter]

Hey Dave,

Post your price list so everyone can send the correct funds.:money:

Congratulations on your 2 gongs!:medal::medal: Well done!:thumbsup:

[Rabbit 3]

A possible scenario....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2PkY3zSuw4
Just so long as we don`t have to sing that song!
For a more serious possibility,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHByyRjPlk&feature=fvsr

[csadn]

What I want from a "Zeppelin mini": Design it so it can be opened, and store minis inside....

[Hunter]

Thanks Dave for the Felixstowe! Beautiful build. Just like my Staakens.

[FLt Brown]

PM sent for price of a Zeppelin

Regards Kev

[Ranger]

I just wanted to state for the record that clipper's customer service is above and beyond!

[clipper1801]

New year and new stuff! Will be posting a new list of goodies, new planes, new Zeps and new prices! Watch for it next week! Clipper

[Flying Officer Kyte]

New year and new stuff! Will be posting a new list of goodies, new planes, new Zeps and new prices! Watch for it next week! Clipper

Can't wait to see them Dave. A good time for sales as the release date of the bombers now seems to be slipping ever further into the Summer.
Rob.

[Volstagg]

'Standing By....'

[Burt]

Very tempting:p

[Fabric Flyer]

Hi,
Just watched the film, pretty neat & funny, I see there's others, got to see them also.
Thanks,

Fabric Flyer

[Fabric Flyer]

Hi,
Love Zeppelins! Read all you had on them. Please tell me how much would one be. The Gotha's look great too, how much for one of them also.
Reply when you can, no rush. e-mail-- hexking1@yahoo.com
Thanks,

Fabric Flyer

[clipper1801]

See my "Clipper's List" posting on this thread for prices and models that are in stock, there have been a few additions since, let me know what you are interested in. I do make models on request as well. Clipper